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Neo-Conservatives are not Conservatives
Sierra Times ^ | August 12, 2002 | Jeff Adams

Posted on 08/12/2002 5:48:59 AM PDT by sauropod

Neo-Conservatives are not Conservatives

By Jeff Adams
Published 08. 8. 02 at 21:29 Sierra Time

Several years ago, I noticed the term "neo-conservative" come into frequent use. I have grown to hate this word because it gives people who bear the term false credentials as true conservatives.

To me, true conservatives fit the description of what used to be called the "Old Right." These "new conservatives" present nothing that reflects the ideas of the "Old Right," or traditional conservatism. Neo-conservatives see nothing wrong with big, centralized government, as long as they, the neo-conservatives, are in charge instead of liberal Democrats. That's like saying, "It would be okay if America was ruled by a dictator, as long as I was the dictator, because I would surely be a benevolent dictator." But you can't count on the next guy to be benevolent. It's asinine.

There is a saying: "Conservatives never conserved anything." In most ways the saying is true. Leading neo-conservatives of today have very moderate stances when it comes to traditional values concerning marriage, sexual mores, immigration, taxation, property rights, limited government, and religion. These people claim to be leaders in the conservative faction of politics. Quite frankly, if you were to put their views and ideas on paper and lay them beside the views and ideas of a liberal Democrat, you would have a hard time telling which ideas were the liberal Democrat's and which came from the neo-conservatives.

Neo-conservatives are in reality neo-socialists, for they cloak their big government socialism in the ideas of big business and they believe that big, centralized government is okay as long as "conservatives" run it. They are the front men for large corporations. They tout capitalism, but in reality they are advocates of mercantilism. This is a close cousin to the state-controlled economies of communist countries. Yes, those economies: the ones that all failed miserably.

What we have in neo-conservatives is a bunch of liberals who are "pretenders to the throne" of conservatism. Real conservatism is actually traditionalism. In that sense, I am not a conservative, but a traditionalist. A "Southern Traditionalist" to be exact. I cling to the ideals and values of our colonial forefathers, and the people of the South who dared stand against Lincoln and the forces of centralization and mercantilism. These new false conservatives can mouth their platitudes and claim to be for tradition all they want. But when their kind continues to expand federal power, to limit our freedoms and liberties, and to accept as normal the perversions that go on in our society, they had best keep in mind that traditionalists like myself see through this façade, and we have had enough. Our numbers are growing, and we no longer believe we have to vote for false conservatives as the "lesser of two evils."

The loud booming voices of neo-conservatism are false prophets. It is like the man behind the curtain in the Wizard of Oz. Pull back the curtain of neo-conservatism and you will see not a conservative, but a socialist. Is it any wonder that many of today's noted neo-conservatives are "former" leftists of the 1960's, or had parents who were members of the Communist Party, USA? Don't two of the Republican's big "conservatives," Orin Hatch of Utah and John McCain of Arizona, spend much of their time "in bed" with Ted Kennedy? When Mississippi's "conservative" Trent Lott was majority leader in the U.S. Senate, did he push a conservative agenda? (The answer, of course, is a very loud "NO.") What has the "arch-conservative" John Ashcroft done since becoming Attorney General? With his help, we are headed toward a police state.

Off hand, the only real conservative, or traditionalist, I see on the national scene is Congressman Ron Paul of Texas. People like him deserve our support. The socialists in neo-conservative clothing need to be spurned. I would rather "throw my vote away" on an independent or third-party candidate and sleep well at night because I didn't contribute to the continuing downfall of our lost republic by voting for a neo-conservative/socialist, than choose "the lesser of two evils" and know that I voted into office someone who was going to go for my wallet and stab me in the back as if he were a common street mugger.

Neo-conservatives are really neo-socialists. True conservatives/traditionalists should denounce these frauds. Just as the original definition of the word "liberal" no longer applies in our society, "conservative" doesn't mean what it used to, not when it comes out of the mouths of the political phonies that man the barricades of the Republican Party. I'm not a neo-conservative, or even a conservative. They've ruined that word. I am a Traditionalist. I hope all who love their freedom, fear God, and know what we have lost, will step up and put on the Traditionalist mantle to help separate themselves from the pretenders who think we will vote for them this election year because they believe we have nowhere else to turn.

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My sentiments exactly.

Rectitudine Sto. Sauropod

1 posted on 08/12/2002 5:49:00 AM PDT by sauropod
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To: diotima; usconservative; Noumenon; Jeff Head; Carry_Okie; countrydummy; ATOMIC_PUNK; redrock
A most excellent statement. Couldn't have said it better myself (although i didn't try ;-). 'Pod
2 posted on 08/12/2002 5:50:32 AM PDT by sauropod
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To: sauropod; stainlessbanner; 4ConservativeJustices; Twodees
Neo-conservatives see nothing wrong with big, centralized government, as long as they, the neo-conservatives, are in charge instead of liberal Democrats

Excellent post and so true!! Bump for some other true conservatives

3 posted on 08/12/2002 5:53:40 AM PDT by billbears
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To: sauropod
It's sad but true. The people have but two choices...Liberal and Liberal Lite!

J

4 posted on 08/12/2002 5:55:17 AM PDT by J. L. Chamberlain
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To: sauropod
Neo-Conservatism believe 'Conservatism' came out of a desire to rid the world of Nazism and, today, they believe the most pressing policy debate centers around troop movements in the Middle East.

Paleo-libertarian bump.

5 posted on 08/12/2002 5:56:50 AM PDT by JohnGalt
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To: sauropod
Not to be difficult, but I haven't met anyone who describes themselves as a neo-conservative, only people who describe others that way. And in that regard it's kind of like calling someone a racist, everyone accuses everyone else, but no-one owns up to it.

Liberals say that neo-conservatives are bad because they are conservative, and conservatives say their bad because they're "neo".

It makes it kind of hard for me to find someone to agree with, but easy to find someone to blame.

6 posted on 08/12/2002 6:00:30 AM PDT by tcostell
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To: sauropod
Good article. I'm not sure I agree with the term "socialist" being tied to neocons. I believe there is another term for a strong federal government that uses it's powers to benefit corporate interests, and utilizes powerful national police forces.
7 posted on 08/12/2002 6:01:18 AM PDT by steve50
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To: billbears; Constitution Day
I think CD said it in another post - the use of the neo prefix is an attempt to imply that overused term "neo-nazis"
8 posted on 08/12/2002 6:04:07 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: steve50
strong federal government that uses it's powers to benefit corporate interests, and utilizes powerful national police forces.

Clay's American System

9 posted on 08/12/2002 6:05:23 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: billbears
I cling to the ideals and values of our colonial forefathers, and the people of the South who dared stand against Lincoln and the forces of centralization and mercantilism. These new false conservatives can mouth their platitudes and claim to be for tradition all they want.

Everytime there is a Southern thread, these false propets and neo-conservatives show up like flies to honey. We know who they are.

10 posted on 08/12/2002 6:10:37 AM PDT by CWRWinger
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To: sauropod
Excellent post! Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
11 posted on 08/12/2002 6:11:58 AM PDT by CWRWinger
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To: sauropod
Marker for later reading.
12 posted on 08/12/2002 6:19:49 AM PDT by Darth Sidious
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To: sauropod
Absotively right on, bro!!! I cringe every time I hear some smarmy talking head utter the word "neo-con" and then sit there so sumg and satisfied that they've managed to squeeze in yet another current, cool inside the Beltway buzzword. Conservativism is conservatism...period! If you call yourself a conservative, but then add qualifiers, then you're not a conservative.

Back during the 2000 campaign, I inwardly winced every time I heard Bush described as a "compassionate" conservative (like conservatism itself isn't already compassionate!), but I turned a blind eye to the implications...after all, he was our man, the one who was going to bring conservative ideals back to DC and chase the Klinton-Whore scourge away for good. I turned a similar blind eye to Kack Kemp's "bleeding-heart" conservativism in '96. Never again. Liberals are liberal, moderates are moderate, and conservatives are conservative.

David Horowitz, Bill Kristol, and others who wear the Neo-con moniker on their sleeves need to reconsider. Those of us who have been on the conservative team all our lives look at them with suspicion at best, and scorn, in my case.

Great post, bro.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

13 posted on 08/12/2002 6:21:26 AM PDT by wku man
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To: sauropod
BTTT
14 posted on 08/12/2002 6:22:39 AM PDT by truenospinzone
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To: sauropod
The first line of paragraph four says exactly what the fringe right thinks! "PINKOS"

The question remains: Who is obligated to build the bridge? Should the center right build the bridge to the fringe right, or vice versa?

15 posted on 08/12/2002 6:26:14 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: sauropod
Neo-conservatives see nothing wrong with big, centralized government, as long as they, the neo-conservatives, are in charge instead of liberal Democrats.

Ronald Reagan was a "neo-conservative" -- he started out as a New Deal Democrat and became a Republican when the Harry Hopkins branch of the party essentially went communist.

Reagan recognized that we needed a "big government" to fight world communism. He also recognized that there were some things big government did well -- like fight a highly technological war. And he realized that having government engineering social policy was idiotic.

And Ronald Reagan was a better "conservative" than any paleocon nitwit that ever lived.

16 posted on 08/12/2002 6:27:56 AM PDT by Cincinatus
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To: steve50
I concur. Substitute the term "socialist" with "fascist", and this piece is right on the money.
17 posted on 08/12/2002 6:35:25 AM PDT by MamaLucci
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To: CWRWinger
The neocons are well entrenched in the party. The attempt now seems to be to paint the true conservatives with the "hard or fringe right" handle while seperating themselves from the neocon tag. Seems to be working, you don't hear the neocon label on the idiot box much anymore.
18 posted on 08/12/2002 6:35:43 AM PDT by steve50
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To: sauropod
Ronald Reagan would classify as a neo, but he wasn't nearly conservative enough, was he? Its always so nice to get a forearm shiv from the bunch that does its best to turn everyone away from conservatism because it isn't "conservative enough". Keep beating your chest.
19 posted on 08/12/2002 6:40:12 AM PDT by habs4ever
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To: billbears
Neo-conservatives see nothing wrong with big, centralized government.

Hamiltonian Federalists. Whigs. Socialists.

I would rather "throw my vote away" on an independent or third-party candidate and sleep well at night because I didn't contribute to the continuing downfall of our lost republic by voting for a neo-conservative/socialist, than choose "the lesser of two evils" and know that I voted into office someone who was going to go for my wallet and stab me in the back as if he were a common street mugger.

Bingo!

20 posted on 08/12/2002 6:42:25 AM PDT by 4CJ
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