[Boonie Rat]

Baaaaa, Baaaaaaa. Baaaaaaaaa. (Voice of U.S. citizenry.)

Boonie Rat

MACV SOCOM, PhuBai/Hue '65-'66

[tomakaze]

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[AdamSelene235]

I decided to stop giving out my SSN for a year as an experiment to test how much liberty remains in this country. So far my employer has stripped me of all medical and dental benefits and the local DMV has refused to renew my license.

That answered my question.

[Cachelot]

Japan is an extremely strange nation. They might look sort of westernized at first glance, but there's probably a wider gulf between "them and us" than there was between the Soviets and us. It's a very repressed society, with strange outlets.

An example: A relative of mine was in Tokyo some time ago. He was mystified by a battery of vending machines outside the hotel entrance (and this was no seedy little place). The chief product they sold? Panties. Used ones. Unwashed.

[RipSawyer]

Lo and Behold, the citizenry is beginning to be dimly aware of the cage bars. I have often commented that the current situation in this country makes our grievances against the mother country look trivial by comparison. "Taxation without representation"? How about seizure of assets without even so much as an accusation of criminal activity. We have sat around, fat, dumb and happy and allowed ourselves to be enslaved without even knowing it. All those who died for our freedom must be spinning in their graves.

[taxcontrol]

Here is an interesting question (I asked the SSN folks and they could not find the answer).

Since Social Security is voluntary - how do I get out?

My state will issue a drivers license if I don't have a SSN so that is not a problem. But I've NEVER been able to find out how to get OUT of the system.

Anyone?

[Darth Sidious]

A revolution is needed in this country... beginning with open resistance against the Social Security system.

If that much is done, everything else is easy.