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BadJoe/JimRob Dispute Ended - Free Republic Train Wreck Derailed
Free Republic | August 26, 2002 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/26/2002 7:21:32 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Most of you know that a battle has been raging over the last several weeks between me and BadJoe regarding some of our moderating policies. Looked pretty bad there for awhile. Joe was going to resign from Free Republic and there was even a dust up regarding the monthly donors and how the records would be turned over to a new credit card service.

I am happy to report that today that battle has officially ended and Free Republic may have avoided being fatally damaged in a disastrous train wreck. As it is, the only losses suffered were a few black eyes and a lost ear or two. Fractures and abrasions were suffered, but no major bones broken or organs punctured. Hurt feelings, bruised egos, dampened spirits, damaged bodies are now all on the mend. A satisfactory agreement has been reached between all warring parties as to how we will continue forward in our fight for Freedom.

Summary of today's agreement between BadJoe and JimRob:

  1. Jim to reinstate the observer program with between 2-4 members of his choosing. Joe may suggest nominees.

  2. Jim to put up a post to this effect, including his boilerplate guideline to the mods.

  3. Jim will work with John on writing a subroutine or program that lists the banned comments, banned threads and names of banishees, that Joe will have access to.

  4. Joe will process the Sept fundraiser cc's, and work with Jim and whomever is taking over the program to effect a smooth transition. Joe will continue to work on the fundraisers as a volunteer but will not run the program.

We will be working on a moderator policy manual (the boilerplate guidelines) and will post it as soon as completed. For now, I will say that we do not want racist material, anti-Semitism, religion bashing, tin-foil hat material, leftist propaganda (used to smear or bash conservatives), profanity, vulgarity, pornography, excessive flaming, insults or feuds, liberals, leftists, marxists, etc., are generally not welcome as are multiple screen names, disruptors, anti-FReepers or returning bannees.

Said material may be deleted as discovered or reported and posters may be warned, suspended or banned depending on severity.

But the standing moderator policy is to go as easy as possible on the posters. Many flame wars and insults and even some minor violations of other rules may sometimes be ignored. It depends entirely on the situation and the posters involved. Posters with unclean hands might as well avoid using the abuse button. We do not want to wade through hundreds of posts looking for who is at fault. We do not have time for it and do not want to act as nannies anyway. The general rule of thumb for a moderator is to always give the poster the benefit of the doubt. If there is any doubt, then we do not delete and do not ban. I'd rather bend the rules than stifle the debate. And now that we have a smokeybackroom forum, we'll suggest that people take their feuds and flame wars there and unless it gets too nasty the moderators will look the other way.

Believe it or not we do not like deleting or banning. We want to attract as many new people as we possibly can, but we also want to run a clean board. And we want to advance our conservative causes while not assisting the leftists propaganda artists in their dirty work.

I know this does not cover everything, but we'll be posting more as we can.

Also, we are in the process of contracting with one of the major nationwide credit card processing companies. Joe has been processing these for us for the last several years, but the job has gotten to be a huge task and a burden on him. Joe will assist us in making as smooth a transition as possible to the new service.

As always, I thank all of you from the bottom of my heart and we are all very appreciative of your support and understanding. I'm sorry for this recent turmoil and hope it is all behind us and we can get on with our FReeping!

God bless you all and God bless America!

Jim


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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
To: Argh crack? bottom? Sheesh! Oh, I see your point......bad choice of words on my part.........

LOL!!!! I didn't notice that, but am cracking up now! :)

361 posted on 08/28/2002 7:41:08 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: pseudogratix
Sheesh, why don't they just change the channel?

Listen, you're all missing the point. I don't allow liberals on this website because I do not want to be responsible for pushing their marxist anti-American, anti-Freedom, anti-God political agenda. And I do not allow strings of profanity laden posts here or vulgarity or pornogaraphy because I do not want to promote that sort of trash. And I do not like religion bashing here because I do not agree with bashing or persecuting people because of their religious beliefs. And I do not like people ripping each others throats out on my website so I rule that out. And I do not like people advancing marxist/leftist/socialist/liberal agenda on my property so I rule out the marxist propagandists and tin-foil hat stuff. It's not that I care whether or not anyone reads this stuff (or have the right to say it), I just do not want to be responsible for promoting it. If others want to promote that garbage, then they should do it from their own websites. Free Speech Rules!! Freedom Rocks!!
362 posted on 08/28/2002 7:45:58 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: mindprism.com
You're making this way too complicated. Of course we post stuff to criticise or expose it. But when people post propaganda to smear our own candidates or causes, then that's something else. I hate what the leftists are doing to this country and I oppose their steady erosion of our Constitutional rights and of the Constitution itself, therefore I want to promote voting them out of office. This website was not named Free Republic by chance. Had I wanted to allow equal time or debating rights to liberals/marxist/propagandists, et al, I would've named it Socialist-Marxist-Debating.Society.com or perhaps DemocraticSocietyRUS.com.
363 posted on 08/28/2002 8:08:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Hear! Hear!
365 posted on 08/28/2002 8:15:04 PM PDT by Exit148
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To: Jim Robinson
I see. I am afraid I grossly misunderstood the problem at hand. Thanks for taking the time to enlighten me. :-)
366 posted on 08/28/2002 8:41:26 PM PDT by pseudogratix
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To: Jim Robinson; BADJOE
now that we have a smokeybackroom forum, we'll suggest that people take their feuds and flame wars there and unless it gets too nasty the moderators will look the other way.

Where is this forum, and how does one find it?

BadJoe, JimRob, I am so glad to read this post!

367 posted on 08/28/2002 9:15:08 PM PDT by GretchenEE
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To: GretchenEE
You should see it listed in the "My Forums" sidebar on the top right of the latest posts page, but here is the URL:

http://www.FreeRepublic.com/focus/backroom/browse
368 posted on 08/28/2002 9:28:16 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
That I canceled my credit card this month was, honestly, a complete coincidence. Expect a check mid-September.
369 posted on 08/28/2002 11:35:20 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: Jim Robinson; BADJOE
Jim, I respect you greatly, but this great Kumbaya moment is a pyhrric victory for the forum.

This forum is overwhelmingly driven by a negative, destructive energy. Set the Canteen and dose threads aside, and any jaunt through the discourse here will reveal a prevailing mojo that is antisocial, anti-state, anti-immigration, anti-Bush, anti-GOP, anti-markets, anti-world, Anti-authority, and anti-responsibility.

Yes, the discourse on FR is, even in the wake of 9/11, Anti-war against our lethal Islamist enemies at home and abroad.

Nobody is moving the ball forward. Nobody is presenting alternatives. Nobody is organizing pro-active responses to change the oppressive realities over which they mewl at agonizing length. Nobody is talking about Al-Qaida and domestic terrorist sleeper cells. Nobody is talking about defeating Socialist Democrats and Marxist judges. Nobody respects the political tools and institutions set by the Constitution to effect change and achieve priorities.

Nobody gives a rat's ass about your vision and the FR mission.

The problem is George W. Bush, John Ashcroft, the GOP, the Patriot Act, the globalists, the Mexicans, Abraham Lincoln, the war on drugs, Microsoft, the Federal and Local Law Enforcement agencies and the Zionists. The problem is the AM's and their inhuman cruelty.

That's FR today. The cyberspace equivalent of the "Island of Dr. Moreau."

BadJoe did you no favor here. Et tu Badjoe?

370 posted on 08/28/2002 11:52:31 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: patriciaruth
Thank you very very much.
Jim
371 posted on 08/28/2002 11:58:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: ArneFufkin
On 3. Hut! Hike!
372 posted on 08/28/2002 11:58:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
That's not hiking on 3!! No wonder we fumble the snap so much. ;^)
373 posted on 08/29/2002 12:10:19 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
Oops. Sorry 'bout that. I wondered what that big old pile of bodies was all about.
374 posted on 08/29/2002 12:15:23 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Well ... you know what the deal is with pioneers; they're the ones who get stuck with arrows.

Best regards always.

375 posted on 08/29/2002 1:02:57 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
Well, I never quite figured out what the heck it was all about but I'm glad it's over.
376 posted on 08/29/2002 1:07:13 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: dansangel
(((ping))))
377 posted on 08/30/2002 1:38:44 AM PDT by .45MAN
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To: Jim Robinson; .45MAN
Re: Tin-foil hat material:

"Anyone who posts anything resembling this b/s will be nuked on sight."

LOL! o~<);-)

May God Bless you, Jim Robinson. It is because of your vision and resolve that we have this wonderful forum.

378 posted on 08/30/2002 4:14:54 AM PDT by dansangel
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To: Jim Robinson
Have no problem with any of your statement and I do agree if you don't like it there are other sites... I have spent more time on this site this year alone than I have on any other site in the past. If you can't discuss with a level head then just listen until you can.....
379 posted on 08/30/2002 4:35:56 AM PDT by .45MAN
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To: Jim Robinson
Most of you know that a battle has been raging over the last several weeks between me and BadJoe regarding some of our moderating policies.

I didn't know that, but I am glad things are settled.

380 posted on 08/30/2002 4:40:30 PM PDT by Great Dane
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