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Heads Up freepers in the area!

Upholding civil liberties and true democracy is essential.
Uhhhhh....

1 posted on 08/31/2002 9:46:33 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
The rights of all individuals to equal protection, freedom from discrimination, harassment and violence, to due process and a fair judicial system are non-negotiable.

Thats ALL they care about? The don't care about the First Amendment? Second Amendment? etc.? Essentially what they are saying is "As long as you're not mean to us, you can do anything you want" --- a recipe for tyranny!

2 posted on 08/31/2002 10:01:57 AM PDT by sailor4321
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To: chance33_98
Rights? Justice? No.

Politics? YES.

3 posted on 08/31/2002 10:06:58 AM PDT by zarf
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To: chance33_98
This is great!

Has-been vaudevillians attempting to make a come-back on the national stage...
4 posted on 08/31/2002 10:13:31 AM PDT by Vidalia
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To: chance33_98
I'm really asking for it with this one, but I think it needs to be said. I don't think this is a ignorable news item. Here's what I'm seeing.

A greater and greater percentage of the country are having problems with what Bush and Ashcroft are doing, including lots of FReepers. Now we're not about to start backing Jesse and NOW and the whole lot.

But someone who isn't as politically aware, and who doesn't know what NOW was and is, and what Jesse has done and is capable of, might look at the above news clip, and if they are already having problems with what's going on in this country, see these groups as their friends, and put all of that rabble-rousing talk about "race hustler" and "feminazis" in the discard pile.

I trust I don't have to explain why that's a problem. NOW right now has lost a lot of its power due to their unholy alliance with our past (insert-your-favorite-sex-crime-perpetrator-description) in chief. If they and PUSH manage to tie their name to something that people agree with, they could very well get people to forget about their past transgressions and start trusting them again, and from that start weilding real political power again.

So what am I saying here he should do in return?

Like a lot of political debates, I'm seeing signs in this one of people calling all anti-terrorism efforts across the board either an intolerable infringement or a necessary protection. I understand both arguments, but that kind of adamancy can let reasonable debate slip through the cracks, and if we don't pick it up, it's clear the left will (well, at least something that their followers will consider "reasonable").

So what I think I'm saying is that in order to combat this, we need to continually keep a clear focus of what is going on in this country, and not get overly dogmatic with each other regarding what we should do, and that includes our discussions here. In other words, don't either oppose or accept any individual efforts on the part of the feds just on face value, but clearly examine each one, and not label anyone here who disagrees with you. This is not an easy issue, and needs to really be approached with as much clarity as possible.

Sorry for the long rant, it's just that I like the fact that NOW and PUSH have returned to being sideshows, and don't want to see that change. If we don't play this one right, it very well could.

5 posted on 08/31/2002 10:19:36 AM PDT by pupdog
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To: chance33_98; Jim Robinson
I am a bit miffed, though partly tongue in cheek, that they have hijacked, nearly, the name of FreeRepublic's October 31, 1998, March for Justice.
7 posted on 08/31/2002 11:36:45 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: chance33_98
That will be an ugrateful bunch.
8 posted on 08/31/2002 11:41:35 AM PDT by adam stevens
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Jesse Jackson Charities, O'Reilly Action Alert
14 posted on 08/31/2002 11:33:43 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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15 posted on 09/01/2002 5:30:25 AM PDT by mhking
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To: chance33_98
Any Freepers planning a counter rally for our government and the President?
16 posted on 09/01/2002 7:27:01 AM PDT by Trueblackman
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A Cavalcade of the Clitorati.....cows on the hoof.....stupidity in stampede....miffed muffs....
17 posted on 09/01/2002 7:41:20 AM PDT by Consort
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To: chance33_98
The National Organization for Women (NOW) is joining the Rainbow/PUSH ........

All three of the NOW 'ladies'?

18 posted on 09/01/2002 8:03:24 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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