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Indiana: The roots of conservatism are moral conviction
http://Evansville Indiana Courier&Press/ecp/news/article/0,1626,ECP_734_1363000,00.html ^ | Evansville Indiana Courier Press

Posted on 09/02/2002 3:49:32 AM PDT by carpio

True principled stands are so rare in Congress as to be news worthy. http://Indiana's John Hostettler/ecp/news/article/0,1626,ECP_734_1363000,00.html


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We should watch and support this strange Congressman.
1 posted on 09/02/2002 3:49:32 AM PDT by carpio
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Link http://www.myinky.com/ecp/news/article/0,1626,ECP_734_1363000,00.html
2 posted on 09/02/2002 3:50:40 AM PDT by carpio
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3 posted on 09/02/2002 3:52:04 AM PDT by carpio
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To: carpio
My agent (mom) stays on top of the situation down there. She keeps me apprised of the goings on in that neck of the woods, and especially with regard to Hostettler. We are quite pleased.
4 posted on 09/02/2002 5:19:03 AM PDT by BlueCat
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To: carpio
On the tally card that is congressional votes, it's not unusual to see Rep. John Hostettler's vote stand out. He was one of eight to vote "present" on whether or not to expel Rep. James Traficant from Congress. He was one of eight Republicans who did not back the Republican prescription drug plan. He was one of 10 Republicans who did not support legislation to create a Department of Homeland Security. Congress-watchers have come to expect Hostettler, who is campaigning for his fifth term, to occasionally buck the party line.

"When you're looking at a vote count and you see two members voted against something, you think, oh, it's (Texas Republican) Ron Paul and John Hostettler," said Lauren Noyes, director of U.S. House Relations for the conservative-leaning think tank the Heritage Foundation. In his eight years in Congress, Hostettler has fashioned a niche for himself as socially and fiscally conservative, unafraid to vote against spending bills he sees as too high even when they might include pork for his own district. He seldom votes for constitutional amendments (among the exceptions: he supports an amendment banning flag-burning). And he has opposed measures that would buy more federal land under the belief that the government already owns too much land.

Special-interest group scorecards - which rank House members by their votes - tell the story: The National Right to Life Committee gave him a 100 percent ranking, Planned Parenthood gave him a 0. The Christian Coalition gave him a 92. The Humane Society gave him a 0. This year alone, he has been in the minority of his party on a handful of bills. Among them: a bill proposing a tax limitation amendment to the Constitution of the United States. A bill that would create investigative teams to assess building performance, emergency response and evacuation procedures after a massive building failure. And a bill that would improve block grants for welfare programs.

Last year, he voted against bills funding the Commerce, Justice and State departments as well as a bill funding the Agriculture Department. He voted against the massive "Leave No Child Behind" education bill. But he supported spending bills funding the legislative branch, the District of Columbia and military construction.

Hostettler's Washington office hung up numerous times on a reporter seeking comment on his voting record.

Hostettler's votes, unsurprisingly, have earned him attacks from his challenger, Bryan Hartke, who said the 8th District is ill-served by someone who does not support funding for basic governmental programs. That Hostettler continually votes against prescription drug benefits is a slap in the face for older 8th District constituents, Hartke said. "There are people who can't afford food and medicine that really need help," he said. "The biggest comment I hear is 'How can he say we don't need it? Just come and talk to us.'" Hostettler's 'present' vote on Traficant also mystifies Hartke. "As a voter and a constituent, I would demand he say yes or no on issues like that," he said.

Immediately after the vote, Hostettler issued a statement saying he voted present because he believes that Congress must maintain autonomy from federal courts. "Congress has so abdicated its role on the most important issues of the day that the voice of the people has been drowned out by that of an unelected and unaccountable Judiciary," he said.

Scott Stoermer of the League of Conservation Voters is also mystified by Hostettler's voting record.

"He has failed to cast a single pro-environmental vote in the last two years," he said, citing votes that would enhance farmland conservation and endangered species. "He's pretty much against everything."

Hostettler has repeatedly landed on that group's "Dirty Dozen" of anti-environmental congressman. He didn't land on it this year, simply because Stoermer said his race is not as competitive this year.

Others respect Hostettler's willingness to vote in the minority.

Jim Backlin, legislative director for the Christian Coalition, said Hostettler has had a nearly consistent 100 percent score since the beginning. Hostettler voted against a bill for school vouchers last year, but other than that has mirrored the coalition's views on issues.

While other consistent conservatives vote with the coalition but don't necessarily speak out on them, Hostettler speaks out, Backlin said.

Noyes said while some fellow Republicans might occasionally resent him voting against close bills, they respect that he stands up for what he believes in in a traditionally tumultuous district.

"He does not always vote in the way that would be politically the best way for him to vote," Noyes said. "But he really sticks to his principles."

5 posted on 09/02/2002 7:31:50 AM PDT by Teacher317
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Good for Hostettler,; now if only there were 1000 (House, Senate, Supreme Court, governors ) more like him !
6 posted on 09/02/2002 8:12:10 AM PDT by hoosierham
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7 posted on 09/02/2002 9:28:14 AM PDT by carpio
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Thanks for the assist Teacher. Long time since I tried to post.

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8 posted on 09/02/2002 10:10:51 AM PDT by carpio
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9 posted on 09/02/2002 10:13:55 AM PDT by carpio
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10 posted on 09/02/2002 10:16:40 AM PDT by carpio
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11 posted on 09/02/2002 10:16:48 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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This Congressman deserves wide praise and an outpouring of support. I intend to provide him with same even though he represents a southern Indiana District and I am 1500 miles or so away in southern New Mexico.
12 posted on 09/02/2002 10:20:16 AM PDT by carpio
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To: Teacher317; HoustonCurmudgeon; Bigun; Flyer; bgsugar; Jim Robinson
This Congressman deserves wide praise and an outpouring of support. I intend to provide him with same even though he represents a southern Indiana District and I am 1500 miles or so away in southern New Mexico.


13 posted on 09/02/2002 10:24:27 AM PDT by carpio
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14 posted on 09/02/2002 10:24:59 AM PDT by carpio
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15 posted on 09/02/2002 10:33:22 AM PDT by carpio
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16 posted on 09/02/2002 10:37:02 AM PDT by carpio
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A big let us all support an Honorable Man Type Bump!
17 posted on 09/02/2002 10:43:00 AM PDT by carpio
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Honest man in Congress alert! Let us give him praise, attention and support.
18 posted on 09/02/2002 10:46:14 AM PDT by carpio
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To: carpio
John Hostettler is a strict constitutionalist. He is a student of history and the U. S. Constitution. He takes his oath to "protect and defend the Constitution of the United States" seriously enough that he votes to protect our Constitution when everyone else is going the politically correct or popular route. Hostettler is as consistent as a congressman can be. He is always taking the long term view.

We conservatives in Hostettler's district work hard at the grass roots level to keep him victorious every other November. This year will be no exception. Bryan Hartke might as well save his money and run for some other office. He doesn't have a chance this year.
19 posted on 09/02/2002 10:47:08 AM PDT by DoctorHydrocal
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Bump for an Honest Man in Congress Sighting!
20 posted on 09/02/2002 10:50:41 AM PDT by carpio
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To: carpio
Wish he was from Missouri.
21 posted on 09/02/2002 10:53:36 AM PDT by ST.LOUIE1
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See Post # 5 for full article on an honest man.
22 posted on 09/02/2002 11:06:17 AM PDT by carpio
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23 posted on 09/02/2002 11:09:33 AM PDT by carpio
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24 posted on 09/02/2002 11:15:20 AM PDT by carpio
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25 posted on 09/02/2002 11:19:43 AM PDT by carpio
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26 posted on 09/02/2002 11:22:24 AM PDT by knighthawk
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27 posted on 09/02/2002 11:24:58 AM PDT by carpio
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28 posted on 09/02/2002 11:27:45 AM PDT by carpio
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See Post # 5 for article
29 posted on 09/02/2002 11:29:58 AM PDT by carpio
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30 posted on 09/02/2002 11:33:44 AM PDT by carpio
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31 posted on 09/02/2002 11:39:24 AM PDT by carpio
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32 posted on 09/02/2002 11:45:59 AM PDT by carpio
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I had the pleasure of meeting him this year. What a gem he is. The article didn't mention he is 100% pro 2nd ammendmant. There was a story posted some weeks ago about him talking to people of the higher likelihood of getting breast cancer after abortions, when talking to breast cancer survivors. He doesn't have a problem speaking his mind. We need more politicians who.....well don't lie to us.

Here's a big NRA bump for the congressman! I only wish there were more of him in congress.

33 posted on 09/02/2002 11:46:25 AM PDT by hoosierboy
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34 posted on 09/02/2002 11:50:46 AM PDT by carpio
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35 posted on 09/02/2002 11:54:17 AM PDT by carpio
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36 posted on 09/02/2002 12:00:28 PM PDT by carpio
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"He has failed to cast a single pro-environmental vote in the last two years," he said, citing votes that would enhance farmland conservation and endangered species. "He's pretty much against everything."

Wow. That alone would make him a hero!!

37 posted on 09/02/2002 12:02:22 PM PDT by sultan88
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To: carpio; ForGod'sSake
This guy's my man in congress; so, naturally I support him rather enthusiastically.

Having said that, lemme tell you of an article which appeared in the last Warrick County Register; which, is this county's paper "of record."
Keep in mind; the thing's *given* away free; as, it'd appear no one's willing to cough up the fifty cents for a once-a-week copy?

Here's esentually what happened.
Hostetter was to have met with a woman's group whose cause was Breast Cancer, BC research, prevention etc.

This local paper of our's was agast (in their editorial) when Hostetter -- & according to the paper's writer -- while meeting with this group told 'em that recent "research" had concluded women who'd had an abortion, showed higher instances of breast cancer.

The *spin* on the "editorial" was many & varied; such as...
"How could he [Hostetter] be so cruel - so stupid - so insensitive - so uncaring" yadayadayada.
Followed up with, "Does this man Hostetter realize he's hurting his OWN political chances with this kind of rhetoric?"
Then the obligatory *guilt* thang to end it..."Hostetter had NO WAY of knowing if one or *any* of these women had underwent an abortion; so, *WHY* even bring it up!?"

Get the picture??
The man's actively pro-life to the nth degree & that's certainly no secret!!
*Since* this area of Indiana's overwhelmingly conservative, the people usually elect pro-life candidate(s) -- which explains to *my* satisfaction* why the guy's been elected repeatedly -- this paper then feigns shock by insinuating Hostetter was *implying* something more than what he actually said?
Deliberately & painstakingly itemizing each of THEIR (above stated) points; based, upon Hostetter's one statement?

~oy.

Sense an *agenda* here??
Same ol' modus operandi as the The Associated Press' quisling contributing rags will use at the LA/NY Slimes, WACompost, Atlanta Urinal & Constipation, Miami Heresy etc et al.

Point is: there're forces out to torpedo this man this cycle.
They're using tactics that've a distinctive -- albeit familiar -- Liberal-Socialist reek to 'em & most importantly they're using these *smears*, *scares*, *indictments* in an area which should very well be a slam-dunk for Hostetter.
A measure of the Left's desperation?

As I said, the rag this article appeared in is a "Give-Away"; so, take it for what it's worth.

...it went into my trash can anyway; as, it always does.

38 posted on 09/02/2002 12:48:47 PM PDT by Landru
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To: Landru
Point is: there're forces out to torpedo this man this cycle.

I am sure there are. All the more reason to reach out and support him. Congrats on living in his District.

40 posted on 09/02/2002 3:00:58 PM PDT by carpio
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To: carpio
I live in Indianapolis, and would hardly call Indiana a bastion of Consevatism. Our Governor is a Democrat. The mayor of the largest city, Indianapolis, is a Democrat. One of our two senators is a Democrat. Evan Byah who basically inherited his seat from his father. Our other senator is a moderate republican. Sen Richard Lugar.
41 posted on 09/02/2002 3:01:49 PM PDT by sharkdiver
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42 posted on 09/02/2002 3:03:03 PM PDT by carpio
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To: sharkdiver
I live in Indianapolis, and would hardly call Indiana a bastion of Consevatism.

That is because you do not know what it is like here in New Mexico where English is an ill tolerated second language, Bill "I gave Monica a job to shut her up" Richardson will be our next Governor and Pete "Let's not call any witnesses for God's Sake!" Domenici passes for a Pubbie.

My wife and I are shopping for a retirement home in rural small town southwestern Indiana and it looks like a true conservative stronghold there to us!!

I mean after all a lot of the people there DO speak English and most homes don't even have iron bars over the windows! Que Paridiso!!

43 posted on 09/02/2002 3:46:15 PM PDT by carpio
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44 posted on 09/02/2002 3:47:25 PM PDT by carpio
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To: sharkdiver
Indiana is definitely a very conservative state; you are way too hung up on party labels. Indiana's Democrats would likely be solid conservatives in most any other state in the Union.

Forget that Indiana has voted GOP in pretty much every Presidential election since Lincoln, and take a look at the actual makeup of the state. You said you're from Indianapolis, so take a look at people like Murray Clark or Luke Kenley from your neck of the woods. Those two people are just about as conservative as anyone I've ever met in my life, and if you're not involved in Indiana politics already, those names will become a lot more familiar to you in the next several months, as they are both running for Governor. Clark had ought to already be familiar; he ran for Lt. Gov in our last election. Go west of Indianapolis and we see people like John Waterman; going southeast we find Johnny Nugent. Southwest, we've got Becky Skillman--a name that has been mentioned over and over again for Secty of State--speaking of which, Todd Rikita is about as conservative as they come, and he'll be on the ballot next November. All this doesn't even mention someone like Atterholt, who represents Pike in the House. Of course, I don't even need to mention the 32-18 edge the Rs hold in the State Senate, a gap which is expected to widen after this November's election.

Even our Ds are pretty solid conservative folks; I don't like O'Bannon, but his penachant for "sin" taxes aside, he's a pretty decent fiscal conservative; granted, the Senate probably keeps him in line. Joe Kernan, the likely D candidate for Gov in the next election, besides being one of the genuinely nicest people I've ever met, is a pretty darn conservative fellow; his record in South Bend speaks to that. Add to that his record the last 8 years, and it ain't bad.

Look too at the strength of conservative fringe groups in Indiana, like the Libertarians. Indiana has one of the largest and most powerful Libertarian parties in the country--most definitely because of its HIGHLY conservative population.

While it's true that one of our Senators is a D who rode in on Dad's coattails, he's a pretty conservative guy who took a left turn to get to Washington from Indiana--even taking that left turn into account, he's still one of the more conservative Ds in Washington. Of course, Shark, you fail to mention that Bayh has never won an election against an incumbent, neither for Governor nor for the Senate; Orr's term had expired when Bayh ran for Gov and Coats resigned when Bayh ran for his Senate seat. Which brings up the point, of course, that Bayh's seat was occupied by two hard core conservatives before he came to Washington: Dan Coats, current ambassador to Germany and the man who lost the Secty of Defense job to Rummy, and Dan Quayle, who needs no further description as to his conservative politics.

Of course, this has nothing to do with Hostettler, who I personally think is a big jerk, but that's neither here nor there. Despite his personally, he does have a very conservative voting record, and manages to win elections despite having the most liberal city in the state in his district (Bloomington).

I read a comment earlier about how Hostettler's seat was a "lock" this term, and I think that is being optimistic nearly to the point of being laughable. The old 8th was as hard fought as any district in the country, and the new 8th, not to mention the entire Indiana map, was drawn specifically to beat him; that is one valuable seat, and make no mistake about it--the Ds drew the map this past census. While there is some speculation that Mahern might have screwed up when he drew those maps, we won't know till next november.

In the meantime, greetings from an ultra-conservative midwest state.
45 posted on 09/02/2002 4:19:19 PM PDT by Viva Le Dissention
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To: carpio
Sounds like my kind of fellow!

He deserves our support!

46 posted on 09/02/2002 6:20:53 PM PDT by Bigun
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To: Teacher317
Noyes said while some fellow Republicans might occasionally resent him voting against close bills, they respect that he stands up for what he believes in in a traditionally tumultuous district.

"He does not always vote in the way that would be politically the best way for him to vote," Noyes said. "But he really sticks to his principles."

ey ya Teach, what a terrific post you wrote about this man...he sounds as if he is truly, truly honorable.

47 posted on 09/02/2002 7:38:25 PM PDT by Republic
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48 posted on 09/02/2002 8:08:11 PM PDT by carpio
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To: Bigun; carpio
He does deserve our support-BIG TIME! What a good man!
49 posted on 09/02/2002 8:18:52 PM PDT by Republic
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To: Republic
LOL, thanks for the praise, but I just posted the article and forgot to put in the title and author. ;^)
50 posted on 09/02/2002 8:20:47 PM PDT by Teacher317
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