Skip to comments.'Arlington Springs Woman', 13,000 Years Old Human Skeleton, California Island
Posted on 09/03/2002 4:41:32 PM PDT by blam
A Second Look
Armed with better technology, archaeologists return to the resting place of North Americas oldest known inhabitant
Revisiting the past is never easy, and revisiting an old excavation site on a canyon wall makes for a particularly dicey trip.
Especially when it no longer exists.
Yet a recent return by scientists to the final resting place of Arlington Springs Woman, the oldest known inhabitant of North America, has provided a striking demonstration of new technology's power to restore the past and preserve it well into the future.
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So far, he's obtained 16 dates from bone fragments, sediment, and charcoal samples. With a little help then, Arlington Springs Woman has been firmly bracketed between 10,850 and 11,200 radiocarbon years, meaning her ripe old calibrated age of 13,000 calendar years is increasingly secure. (Is this a yes?)
(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...
The next oldest dated human skeleton in all the Americas is Luzia in Brazil at 11,500 years old.
Luzia, died at the age of 24, 11,500 years ago in Brazil.
Spirit Cave Man, died in his mid-40's, 9,400 years ago in Nevada.
Can they tell much from a kneecap besides age and species?
BTW, aren't our friends in Mumbai offended that these savages continue to call themselves "Indians" and profess to be offended by "Indian" knick names.
Apparently gender too. Don't expect to see a facial reconstruction of this one. lol
I read that George Carter claims to have found evidence of dwarf rhinos that were roasted in a camp fire on this island that are dated at 100,000 years old. No-one would listen to him. This info is contained in his book, Older Than You Think.
This is an good example of a pet peeve of mine that seems to be cropping up more and more. Have you ever noticed people seem to be using phrases like "3 times less" or "10 times less" when describing a positive quantity that is less than a quantity they have just described? Of course, "one times less" the original quantity is enough to drive the quantity to zero. What people who do this really mean to say is something like "1/3rd as much," or "2/3rd's less" or "one-tenth," etc. but instead they prefer to appear mathematically challenged ("innumerate").
My peeve here does not begin to address the other mathematical ambiguity from this article that says "less than 1,000 times as much" carbon; namely, do they mean they used 1/1000th as much carbon as before, or something like 995 times as much carbon?
Sorry about the rant . . . (interesting article, though).
George Carter says some of the oldest human archaeological sites in the Americas are under the campus of U/C-San Diego and the Naval Observatory in the same area. (He could not stop them from covering them over)
Of course they can, such things as if they played soccer and what position ;-)
I had a Czech engineering technician who would go ballistic anytime I would say something like, "I need a 110% effort on this project."
Vojteck, is that you?
The finding on an island off California supports the notion that the first humans in America came by boat
Monday, July 5, 1999
By Richard L. Hill of The Oregonian staff
Three human bones found 40 years ago off the Southern California coast may rewrite the history of the Americas.
Recent radiocarbon dates indicate they are about 13,000 years old. If confirmed, that would make them the oldest remains ever found in North America.
The bones -- two thigh bones and a kneecap -- were found in 1959, buried 30 feet deep in the side wall of Arlington Canyon on Santa Rosa Island in the Channel Islands off Santa Barbara. Phil C. Orr, who was curator of anthropology and paleontology at the Santa Barbara Museum of Natural History, discovered them.
The finding adds support to the theory that at least some of the first humans who came to the New World may have arrived by boat rather than by a land route.
John R. Johnson, current curator of anthropology at the Santa Barbara Museum, where the bones are stored, said Orr was interested in the pygmy mammoths that had become extinct on the Channel Islands at the end of the last ice age.
"Phil was trying to prove that their extinction was no accident -- that humans were out there hunting the mammoth and roasting them in pits," Johnson said.
Orr, who died in 1991, was surveying mammoth bones on the island when he saw a human thigh bone poking out from the side of the canyon. A closer examination revealed the other two bones.
Johnson said Orr, who called his discovery "Arlington Springs Man," obtained a radiocarbon date of 10,000 years from charcoal in the same soil layer that contained the bones. But because of questions about the date's accuracy, he removed the block of earth that contained the bones, wrapped it in plaster and placed it in a museum storage room.
"Phil realized what a stupendous find it was," Johnson said, "so he did the smart thing by archiving that block of earth with the remains for that future time when dating techniques would improve."
Johnson and Don P. Morris, an archaeologist with Channel Islands National Park, recently sent a minute bone fragment to Thomas W. Stafford, a research geochemist who runs the Stafford Research Laboratories in Boulder, Colo., who came up with the 13,000-year-old date.
The researchers also determined that Arlington Springs Man actually is Arlington Springs Woman. They estimated from the length of one thigh bone that the woman was about 5 feet 1 inch tall.
Johnson said field work at the discovery site might provide more information. "Once there is a series of radiocarbon dates obtained in the strata above Arlington Springs Woman, it'll give us more confidence in the dates we have," he said.
Discoveries of such ancient remains are rare. The oldest previous skeletal remains found in North America were those of "Buhla." They were found in 1989 in a gravel quarry near Buhl in south-central Idaho. Only about half of her was recovered, as her pelvis and other lower-limb bones apparently were lost in a rock crusher. Radiocarbon dating put the remains at 10,675 years old.
The oldest remains found in Washington or Oregon are those of Kennewick Man, a virtually complete skeleton found in July 1996 on the banks of the Columbia River in Kennewick, Wash. A radiocarbon date determined the remains to be about 9,300 years old; further testing is planned.
(If the 13,000 year old date holds up, this would be the oldest human skeleton found anywhere in the Americas, North and South. Luzia is dated at 11,500 years old.)
27 posted on 12/17/01 10:26 PM Central by blam
I believe that testing also conjectured that Kennewick man was a Caucasian. I ftrue, this theory would seriously compound all thought on the origin of man in this hemisphere.
Kennewick Man (Related to the Ainu/Jomon, 10,000 Ainu reside in Japan today)
There was a time when all new fads started in California.
I have to admit that that is a peeve of mine too. :^)
Will read later in day...
Spirit Space Man is, without a doubt, related to Kennewick man. Strong family resemblance!
Mmmmmmm... roasted dwarf rhino
But she probably had a killer tan.
I heard about a dredging in British Columbia that picked up some stone axes, etc, from the bottom of a channel/sound. What more goodies lie beneath?
300-500Ft, most accept 400ft.
"I heard about a dredging in British Columbia that picked up some stone axes, etc, from the bottom of a channel/sound. "
Yup. That was something. They calculated where human settlement would most likely have been during the Ice Age and went dredging there. Amazingly, they found human artifacts.
I have some 7,000 year old wood dredged from Santa Rosa Sound in Florida that was once part of a coastal forest.
It was the PC thing to do. Wouldn't want any more evidence supporting this Caucasian looking guy. Makes the natives mad.
Yup. I read about that too. They picked what seemed would be a good human occupation site and then went dredging. Bingo!
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