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Portland Jews Brace for Assault by 'Jews for Jesus' (anti-Christian Bigotry Alert!)
Torah Atlanta ^
| 2002
| Paul Haist
Posted on 09/15/2002 5:20:45 PM PDT by jstone78
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The one group of Jewish-Americans who endure more religious bigotry than any other group, are Jews who believe in Jesus as the Messiah. They are called Messianic Jews.
Liberal Christians are too cowardly and PC, to support the religious rights of this persecuted minority.
The New Testament calls on us to preach the Good News to all of the world. If the gospel of Christ is good enough to be preached to Hindus, Moslems and Buddhists, why not to our Jewish friends and neighbors?
The attempts to frustrate missionaries who preach the holy message of Christ, is nothing more than religious bigotry.
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posted on
09/15/2002 5:20:46 PM PDT
by
jstone78
To: jstone78
Disclaimer, I'm an atheist.
The Torah speaks nowhere about a 'second coming'. The Messiah is supposed to do his work as soon as he comes. It's been 2000 years, and no messayaroony miracles in sight... You can see why the Judeans are sceptical.
To: jstone78
So, the Catholic church, which seems to be recognizing the validity of Judaism and is pointing away from proselytizing Jews is therefore guilty of anti-Christian bigotry? Wow.
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posted on
09/15/2002 5:32:51 PM PDT
by
gcruse
To: jstone78
There have been dozens of these threads on FR over the years.
The extreme vast majority of Jews, like most people, just want to be left alone, thank you.
There are dozens of historical examples where proselytizing begat pogroms. These episodes and that pattern are a part of Jewish history that leads many Jews to fear such activity.
Now, I am NOT repeat NOT accusing these folks of doing anything other than carrying out the Lord's will as they see it.
But please have some sympathy for a people who've seen this all before (many times) and simply want to be left alone.
To: jstone78
The attempts to frustrate missionaries who preach the holy message of Christ, is nothing more than religious bigotry. Maybe they feel like many do about Jehova's Witnesses pestering them all the time.
To: NativeNewYorker
But proselytizing among Jews is also an essential part of Christian history. I would hazard the guess that at least through the 1st century AD a majority of Christians were Jews (I thought of saying "former Jews," but that is begging the question -- Christianity and rabbinical Judaism are both descendants of the Judaism that preceded both; they both regard themselves as the true successor of Judaism.)
How can you ask Christians to abandon that part of their history, especially when their theology calls on them to spread the Good Word?
To: jstone78
Let me put this another way.
How would you like it, if the homosexual community made it a practice to gather in large numbers in your neighborhood, and handed out pro gay literature to everyone they saw? Since this would undoubtedly go against your beliefs, you might not like this.
Well, the Jews, just might view the 'Jews for Jesus' crowd in the same light. Understand now?
To: ET(end tyranny)
I don't like being pestered by the Jehovah's Witnesses, but the last thing I would dream of doing is complaining to anybody about their pestering me. I recognize that their religion imposes on them an obligation to pester me.
To: aristeides
I recognize that their religion imposes on them an obligation to pester me. I usually just ask them for their home addresses. When they ask why, I tell them so that I can show up at their homes unannounced and tell THEM what I BELIEVE!
To: jstone78
Believers need to fervently intercede for this event that many will coming to the saving knowledge of the Lord Jesus.
Maranatha!
To: jstone78
You have to wonder how pissed off certain rabbis would get if someone coined the phrase Jesus Evangelical Worship Society. You know, J.E.W.S. The members could even be Jesus Evangelical Worshipers, so when someone asks they would be a J.E.W.
I think that would piss them off or make a bunch of people laugh.
To: jstone78
Most people don't care much for "in your face" behavior, no matter who the source of it is.
To: NativeNewYorker
The extreme vast majority of Jews, like most people, just want to be left alone, thank you. Well if that's the case then all they have to do is say no to those trying to convert them, just like the rest of us have to do when it comes to the preaching of religious beliefs we don't believe in.
It seems the overly defensive and hostile reactions towards Jews for Jesus betrays a certain paranoia and insecurity.
And in my opinion it is for good reason, since Jesus is Lord and one day all will acknowledge Him.
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posted on
09/15/2002 5:54:53 PM PDT
by
Jorge
To: ET(end tyranny)
"How would you like it, if the homosexual community made it a practice to gather in large numbers in your neighborhood, and handed out pro gay literature to everyone they saw?"Hey ET, please do yourself a favor and contact the Mother Ship. I haven't seen an analogy this inane on FR since....EVER.
To: ET(end tyranny)
How would you like it, if the homosexual community made it a practice to gather in large numbers in your neighborhood, and handed out pro gay literature to everyone they saw? Since this would undoubtedly go against your beliefs, you might not like this.I think this is pretty much already happening already with school curiculae, Rosie O'Donnell et al beating that drum. Do you really not find the homosexual community already "in your face"?
To: ET(end tyranny)
{....How would you like it, if the homosexual community made it a practice to gather in large numbers in your neighborhood, and handed out pro gay literature to everyone they saw?....}
In other words, you are comparing missionaries of the Gospel, to those who hand out gay literature?
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posted on
09/15/2002 6:00:51 PM PDT
by
jstone78
To: sheik yerbouty
This is true. I am a fundamentalist Christian and I got mad when I found a gospel pamphlet someone stuck on my motorcycle the other day. (And not on any of the surrounding cars. Guess they think I must be a big and bad biker and need it the most LOL.) The "don't boss ME around" impulse dies hard.
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posted on
09/15/2002 6:00:51 PM PDT
by
drlevy88
To: NativeNewYorker
Too Funny. "Evangelical" christians are content to cheer the Jews in Israel, whom they see as a catspaw against Islam.
But when Jews here in the U.S. evince a distrust of these same evangelicals' proselytizing efforts, suddenly they're "anti-christian bigots"!
Man, you can't even MAKE this stuff up!
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posted on
09/15/2002 6:02:32 PM PDT
by
Illbay
To: jstone78
Saying that Jews must accept Jesus now or go to hell is also religious bigotry and totally against what the bible says about it.
Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Whip out your Strong's concordance and look it up. There are many more scriptures to prove my point.
To: aristeides
How can you ask Christians to abandon that part of their history...?I'm not. I merely point out the intended audience's perspective.
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