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Air-powered Autos (Star Trek Technology - A Car That Breathes Air, Just Like You Do. Unbelievable.)
MIT Technology Review ^ | September 19, 2002 | John Harney

Posted on 09/25/2002 8:34:47 AM PDT by jstone78

Air-powered Autos

By John Harney, September 19, 2002

Zero-emission driving may be more than hot air.

Guy Negre, an engineer from the little town of Carros, France, discovered a breath of fresh air, both literally and figuratively. During his career designing formula one engines he became familiar with isotherm dynamics, a process that creates power by expanding air at an almost constant temperature. Negre theorized that by heating and expanding super-cooled compressed air he could power a nonpolluting car. Six years and four prototypes later, it would appear he’s done it.

Negre’s company, Motor Development International (MDI), created what it calls the Compressed Air Technology (CAT) car by combining a lightweight automobile body with a new type of small rear-mounted engine. The 1,500-pound frame is made from aluminum and fiberglass with four very light, steel-reinforced thermoplastic air tanks attached to the undercarriage of the car. The engine measures only one-foot square and weighs just 70 pounds, but because it propels a relatively light vehicle, it can run at 55 mph. Negre, who was interviewed through an interpreter, explains that, in the tanks, the air is both cooled to minus 100 degrees Centigrade and compressed to 4,500 pounds per square inch. Then it’s injected into a small chamber between the tanks and pistons, where it’s heated up by ambient outside air that forces it to expand into a larger chamber situated between the small chamber and the pistons. That heat exchange between the two chambers, he continues, creates the propulsion that drives the up-and-down strokes of the engine’s four pistons. Finally, the air is passed through carbon filters like those in scuba diving tanks and expelled as pollutant-free exhaust. The dynamic is not unlike that of a spring that takes in energy when it’s compressed and gives it back when it expands.

The big plusses of the air-powered car, according to Negre, are super-efficient energy consumption as well as minimum pollution and maximum affordability. Though the car seats five, it will go from zero to 50 mph in seven seconds—certainly adequate acceleration for an urban vehicle like a taxi. What’s more, with fully loaded air tanks, it will take passengers about 120 miles at an average of 30 mph—again, about the right capacity for urban drivers who don’t want to fill up too often.

Charging the car with air is fairly easy—it takes four hours using a household electric outlet or three minutes using special compressed air stations that MDI sells for about $100,000. Obviously, the vehicle also drastically reduces pollution—it takes in polluted outside air, filters it, and expels cleaner air as exhaust. All that for a price tag of between $10,000 and $14,000.

According to Michael Baltierra, a reporter for ABC News, “we tested the car and it ran quite well. The only major problem that we noticed,” he continues, “was that it was quite noisy—[but Negre] said this was something that would be fixed in later models.” According to Shiva Vencat, vice president of the U.S. wholly owned subsidiary of MDI, Baltierra tested the car in June, 2000. At the time, Vencat explains, the car “was not a finished product…our engine was attached to the car but did not have the body shell all the way around it to muffle the noise.” Since then, he says they have encased the engine to make it run more quietly.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: future; hightech; startrek
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To: jstone78
"explains that, in the tanks, the air is both cooled to minus 100 degrees Centigrade and compressed to 4,500 pounds per square inch.

OUCH! We have to carry a tank full of 4500psi tank of air? Imagine how high that would blow that 1500lb car with its occupants when it ruptures in a wreck.

A partially filled scuba tank will tear the rear end completely off of a car when it lets loose. This thing is a virtual bomb!

21 posted on 09/25/2002 9:07:19 AM PDT by nightdriver
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To: BeDaHed
To this day I have never heard or seen anything more about this guy.

In today's news, Guy Negre, French inventor of the air compression engine was found dead on a Detroit, MI, street of an apparent self inflicted gunshot wound. Negre was in Detroit to discuss his new technology with representatives from Ford, Crysler, and General Motors.........

22 posted on 09/25/2002 9:15:23 AM PDT by Thermalseeker
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To: jstone78
Ok guys,

This is an energy TRANSFER technology. Basicly it stores compressed air to power the car rather that storing gas or electricity. This tech replaces only the fuel tank or the battery - not the need for energy.

Rather, the need for energy must still be supplied for both the compression and cooling of the air. Even if this is done at a filling station, the energy required to perform this operation is required from the electrical grid.

Thus, this would move the power production requirement back to the power plant - which I would suspect would require a MASSIVE upgrade in capacity (Kalifornia, are you listening?).

Now you may argue that power production at a power plant is cleaner / more efficient that burning gasoline - but that is a different arguement.

23 posted on 09/25/2002 9:15:28 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: BeDaHed
Here is the link to the patent.


http://164.195.100.11/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN%2F4292804
24 posted on 09/25/2002 9:18:56 AM PDT by myself6
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To: jstone78
...the air is both cooled to minus 100 degrees Centigrade and compressed to 4,500 pounds per square inch.

How'd you like one of those bombs to go off right in front of you at rush hour on the highway? Not me.

25 posted on 09/25/2002 9:19:11 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: BeDaHed
To this day I have never heard or seen anything more about this guy.

Yeah, because the big oil companies got together and had him offed.    </sarcasm>

26 posted on 09/25/2002 9:22:29 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: jstone78
Found this photo of an MDI car apparently painted as a taxi. I think they could use some restyling work before trying to sell this thing in the US.

27 posted on 09/25/2002 9:22:43 AM PDT by BansheeBill
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To: Petronski
Why not post a link to the thread instead of just complaining....
28 posted on 09/25/2002 9:23:04 AM PDT by Principled
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To: balrog666
Now, turn on the heater in snow country or the air conditioner in the summer.

I would LOVE a zero emissions car! It would appeal to by green side, not to mention the side of me that wants to radically reduce our oil dependancy (thus returning the middle east to the 1700's, again ). It will happen, someday, but I don't think today is the day.

My question about this potential car is: if it relies on the outside air to heat the -100 degree air from the tanks, what happens when the outside air is -10 and not 85? Does the engine still 'turn over' or just 'hissss'? Does the range go for from 125 miles to 10?

29 posted on 09/25/2002 9:24:05 AM PDT by mad puppy
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To: jstone78
it will go from zero to 50 mph in seven seconds

That's the accelearation when driving in reverse. When going forward, the accleration rate is 0 to 50 in 41.6 seconds. Nevertheless, the car should sell very well in France and in other Eurosnot countries with a long history of appeasement.

30 posted on 09/25/2002 9:28:59 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: jstone78
Air tanks at 4.5kpsi? That ought to be fun when they rupture in a collision.
31 posted on 09/25/2002 9:32:12 AM PDT by Redcloak
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To: BeDaHed
The car would travel at 70 mph.

That's pretty funny. Can you imagine driving only 70 mph on the Florida Turnpike or on I-95? Where I live, the rush hour traffic (which lasts most of the day)is bumper to bumper at 85 mph. Any slower than that, and you're inviting road rage and could cause a serious accident.

32 posted on 09/25/2002 9:34:10 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: mad puppy
My question about this potential car is: if it relies on the outside air to heat the -100 degree air from the tanks, what happens when the outside air is -10 and not 85? Does the engine still 'turn over' or just 'hissss'? Does the range go for from 125 miles to 10?

Another excellent question. This thing is a long way from being on a showroom floor.

33 posted on 09/25/2002 9:35:20 AM PDT by balrog666
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To: MTRatt
I was waiting for someone to say it. LOL
34 posted on 09/25/2002 9:41:53 AM PDT by Marie
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To: rellimpank
--next will be leprechauns running on treadmills, sipping on nectar for an energy source--

Or crickets eating pop-rocks.
35 posted on 09/25/2002 9:42:18 AM PDT by wasp69
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To: Petronski
Oh for heaven's sake.

If you built it light enough, you could probably PEDAL a car at 55.

These scams and IPO or hopeful funding frauds are getting technically worse all the time.

I'm sure more patient people will explain the thermodynamics of low grade heat energy.

36 posted on 09/25/2002 9:48:08 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: jstone78
the air is both cooled to minus 100 degrees Centigrade and compressed to 4,500 pounds per square inch.

I would not want to be riding this bomb.

37 posted on 09/25/2002 9:54:20 AM PDT by wattsmag2
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To: jstone78
"The only major problem that we noticed,” he continues, “was that it was quite noisy"

Well, how the heck are we gonna be able to listen to Savage, Sean and Rush on the way to work?!

38 posted on 09/25/2002 9:59:42 AM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: jstone78
There was another thread on this today. He is selling franchises for plants to produce these things at 10 million a piece. He'll make money, but I doubt anyone else will.
39 posted on 09/25/2002 10:05:26 AM PDT by laker_dad
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To: laker_dad
http://209.157.64.200/focus/news/756587/posts

By the way, that's $10 million for the PLANT franchise, not the car!
40 posted on 09/25/2002 10:10:55 AM PDT by laker_dad
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