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Furor erupts over Web site monitoring of Middle Eastern scholars (America haters whine)
AP ^ | 9-27- | Ron Todt

Posted on 09/27/2002 8:43:42 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan

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To: Dan from Michigan
Judith Butler, a gender theorist at Berkeley

"I have a PhD--I am a 'Gender Theorist.' You see, I have a theory about gender. There is no such thing as male and female--we are all transgendered. Traditional gender stereotypes are the result of breeder hetero patriarchal attitudes which foster hegemony among the psycho-sexual participants of enema theory and Queer Identity Studies!!"

Ever notice that all these leftists never have any academic discipline in hard science, engineering, math, or medicine? And for this they want $30,000 per kid to pay for the privilege of being "enlightened" by them.

21 posted on 09/27/2002 9:42:39 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: A_perfect_lady
I have never seen someone stutter online.

~grin~

22 posted on 09/27/2002 9:43:07 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: Demidog
Anything that shows Israeli actions to be less than exemplary will be called "biased."

I don't know. I think they screwed up pretty bad when they stopped in 1967. It certainly wasn't an exemplar for anyone. Fortunately, they ignore the UN mostly now.

/john

23 posted on 09/27/2002 9:43:07 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: Demidog
Loserdopian?
24 posted on 09/27/2002 9:44:25 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: Robert_Paulson2
"evidence proved that most of McCarthy's allegations were true."

Yep. He did a good job.

25 posted on 09/27/2002 9:45:29 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: VaBthang4
Rather than " over " state how many stinking Commies there wer, McCarthy actually UNDER stated the numbers. Still and all, he did do a good job.
26 posted on 09/27/2002 9:49:40 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: A_perfect_lady
What happened after they testified? Were they arrested? Imprisoned? What?

As I recall, from another NPR episode, most just couldn't find work. Some ran to Mexio, and still couldn't find work. (Their work was pretty bad)

They later made a living out of being on the black-list. Last year (or the year before), a very old communist held a one-man protest at some awards ceremony and the leftists made a big deal about it. Sheesh. I've seen 4 year olds do better.

/john

27 posted on 09/27/2002 9:50:57 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: JRandomFreeper
The Liberty wasn't very exemplary either, nor was the Stern Gang's killing of Arab women and Children or Irgun's bombing of the King David Hotel for instance.

And yeah, they ignore the UN now even as Bush is demanding that the UN make more silly proclamations in order that his administration might attack Iraq.

28 posted on 09/27/2002 9:53:55 PM PDT by Demidog
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To: Demidog
Anything , at all, to bash Israelis; eh Demi ? Just when one thinks that you can't manage to fall any lower ... you do.

Your pathetic posts don't have a damned thing to do with the article of this thread.

29 posted on 09/27/2002 9:54:00 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: JRandomFreeper
Nothing happened to them, other than that they were "outed" and their fellow artists (using term loosely) didn't want to work with them? That's it? That's IT, that's the whole dreaded, dark, chilling McCarthy era??
30 posted on 09/27/2002 9:57:24 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Demidog
America is a Socialist country too. The fact that alot of people still pretend it's a republic hardly means anything when you stack that mis-informed belief against the overwhelming body of government programs and government control over the means of production.

Many of us get off our @$$es and work to make our country a republic again. I've seen at least one win at a local level within the last year. We're not all keyboard warriors.

/john

31 posted on 09/27/2002 9:58:02 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: A_perfect_lady
No leftists were killed during the production of the McCarthy era. Sorry, Virginia, they all survived. And most of them were on the dole. So you paid for it.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news.

/john

32 posted on 09/27/2002 10:00:53 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: Dan from Michigan
[A pro-Israel organization has set up a Web site to monitor professors and universities for pro-Arab, anti-Israel bias -- a move some academics are decrying as campus McCarthyism and attempted intimidation.

The Philadelphia-based Middle East Forum said it organized the Campus Watch site to counter pervasive bias in universities' Middle Eastern studies.

The site names schools and specific professors. Forum director Daniel Pipes said the think tank hopes eventually to monitor 250 North American academic institutions.

"Our goal is to monitor, critique and improve Middle East studies," Pipes said. "We're not at universities because our views are not welcome. We're trying to create an alternative voice within the field."]

Smoke 'em out and get 'em runnin. Good work, Mr. Pipes!
33 posted on 09/27/2002 10:01:14 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Demidog
even as Bush is demanding that the UN make more silly proclamations

I don't think the President gives a rat's pointy little tail any more than I do about the Untied Nations.

On another note: Working in the State Department must really be a drag at this point.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

/john

34 posted on 09/27/2002 10:04:37 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: swarthyguy
That's what we've been saying about you...Rashid, baby.

If it quacks like a duck...

Boy, the leftists and other anti-American types JUST HATE IT when the light of truth is upon them. Scurry, roaches and rats. Time for you to die! (die = mostly figuratively).

35 posted on 09/27/2002 10:05:20 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: TheAngryClam
Having gone to Berkeley...

And you survived with your mind intact? Most commendable.

36 posted on 09/27/2002 10:06:48 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: A_perfect_lady
What happened after they testified? Were they arrested? Imprisoned? What?

I don't remember reading that anyone was imprisoned, though some certainly should have been. Alger Hiss for example, who was a fairly top level official at the State dept, IIRC, and Whittaker Chambers who outed him was given a pretty hard time. (BTW, if anyone here is looking for a great read, take a look at Chambers' book Witness---some of the best writing I've read.)

Richard Nixon took Chambers' side and was vilified by the left forevermore. It took over 20 years to bring Nixon down, but the left finally got him in '74. He was an enemy of the left from the time of the Hiss-Chambers affair in the early 50s.

Some of the Hollywood types who were called by McCarthy to testify were blacklisted in Hollywood, and didn't work for a number of years, like Dalton Trumbo, though I think he and other writers wrote under pseudonyms.

McCarthy might have been an unsavory and unpopular guy personally, but he was on target with this. I was amazed when I started to read about all this, after all the years of propaganda that I had ingested, and then I began to see what the real story was.

37 posted on 09/27/2002 10:07:48 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Demidog
I got this on the King David Hotel from the Bard & Hertz book:

The King David Hotel was the site of the British military command ... The Irgun chose it as target after British troops invaded the Jewish Agency June 29, 1946, and confiscated large quantities of documents and took them to the KDH. Irgun leader Menachim Begin said three telephone calls were placed, one to the hotel, one to the French Consulate, and one to the Palestine post, warning that explosives in the KDH would soon be detonated. Begin quotes one British official (refusing to evacuate the building) as saying "We don't take orders from Jews."

For decades the British denied that they had been warned. In 1979, however, a member of the British Parliament introduced evidence that Irgun had indeed issued the warning. He offered the testimoney of a British officer who heard other officers in the KDH bar joking about a Aionist threat to the headquarters. The officer who overheard the conversation immediately left the hotel and survived.

38 posted on 09/27/2002 10:10:51 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: SkyPilot
[Judith Butler, a gender theorist thing at Berkeley]
39 posted on 09/27/2002 10:10:58 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Robert_Paulson2
evidence proved that most of McCarthy's allegations were true.

Not really. People would like to say that he was exhonerated posthumously by new documents that have emerged through declassification. However, he was not "right" about any individual person that he accused. He was correct in the general sense but not in any specific sense. McCarthy was not the one who fingered Hiss.

At any rate the congressional hearings were completely fraudulent. They were a smokescreen to convince the public that the Congress itself had not been compromised. However, the Congress itself amended the tax code to exempt members of communist organizations from the social security tax.

That should blow some minds but apparently it doesnt. US Code Title 26 Section 3121(b)(17) is quite specific however and what I am asserting can be easily verified...

Let's have a look:

Section USC 26, 3121(b) defines "employment"

For purposes of this chapter, the term "employment" means any service, of whatever nature, performed (A) by an employee for the person employing him, irrespective of the citizenship or residence of either, (i) within the United States.......except that such term shall not include -

....
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(17) service in the employ of any organization which is performed (A) in any year during any part of which such organization is registered, or there is in effect a final order of the Subversive Activities Control Board requiring such organization to register, under the Internal Security Act of 1950, as amended, as a Communist-action organization, a Communist-front organization, or a Communist-infiltrated organization, and (B) after June 30, 1956;

Again I must repeat....this exemption was passed by a majority of Congress. When many of us claim that this Nation was long ago taken over by Communists (and the current administration is full of them) we're not just whistling Dixie.

40 posted on 09/27/2002 10:12:00 PM PDT by Demidog
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