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Ex-Senator (Lautenberg) to Replace Torricelli
AP via Yahoo ^ | 10/01/02 | JOHN P. McALPIN

Posted on 10/01/2002 6:03:54 PM PDT by eddie willers

Ex-Senator to Replace Torricelli
Tue Oct 1, 8:52 PM ET

By JOHN P. McALPIN, Associated Press Writer

TRENTON, N.J. (AP) - Desperate to keep their single-seat majority in the Senate, Democrats have chosen former Sen. Frank Lautenberg to replace scandal-tainted Sen. Robert Torricelli ( news, bio, voting record) on the November ballot, The Associated Press has learned.

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The decision was reached Tuesday evening after a full day of meetings among top state Democrats, according to a party source familiar with the discussions.

An announcement was expected later Tuesday.

Earlier in the day, the 78-year-old Lautenberg indicated he was ready to run.

"I was there (in the Senate) 18 years, and I enjoyed virtually every day," Lautenberg said in a telephone interview from his car as he headed to the governor's mansion for meetings with top state Democrats. "I didn't like raising the money, but I'm not going to mind it as much this time, because it's kind of fresh start."

Whether Lautenberg's name will actually appear the ballot with Republican Douglas Forrester will be decided in court. Republicans say it is too late to replace Torricelli, who dropped out Monday as his poll numbers continued to fall amid questions about his ethics.

The New Jersey Supreme Court will hear arguments on the case Wednesday.

Sen. William Frist, chairman of the Senate GOP campaign committee, said Republicans would consider an appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court ( news - web sites) if the New Jersey court rules in favor of the Democrats.

"This is a desperate grasp at getting around the law and the people of New Jersey are tired of having their leaders go around the law," he said.

Frist said some absentee ballots have already been cast and that other ballots have been distributed to military personnel overseas; the New Jersey Association of County Clerks said about 1,600 absentee ballots were mailed out.

Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D., said that by objecting to Torricelli's request, Republicans were "denying the people of New Jersey a choice" in the election.

Five months ago, Torricelli's Senate seat was considered relatively safe. But support plummeted after he was admonished by the Senate ethics committee for his relationship with a 1996 campaign supporter, and he soon became the most vulnerable incumbent in the country.

Few, however, expected a court fight five weeks before Election Day.

"This is one for the books," said Larry Sabato, a political scientist at the University of Virginia. "It will long be remembered."

Under New Jersey law, a party can replace a statewide nominee on the ballot if the person drops out at least 51 days before the election. Torricelli missed the deadline by 15 days.

However, Democrats say decades of state court decisions put voters' rights above filing deadlines and other technical guidelines.

Attorney General David Samson argued in papers filed with the court Tuesday that the justices have the power to relax the deadline to withdraw and allow Democrats to post another candidate. Samson, who was appointed to his job by Democratic Gov. James E. McGreevey, said election laws have long been interpreted liberally to allow voters every opportunity.

Legal experts agreed.

"In a substantial number of those cases, the courts have ruled on the side of being inclusive," said Richard Perr, an election law professor at Rutgers University Law School.

Six of the seven justices on the state's highest court were appointed by a former Republican governor.

Lautenberg's selection as the potential Democratic savior is replete with irony. He and Torricelli feuded openly while serving together.

"I'm not in a gloating mode," Lautenberg said. "I don't want to be smug about this. It was unfortunate for him and an unfortunate thing for all of us."

Lautenberg is a supporter of abortion rights and staunch opponent of the death penalty. He brings two major strengths to the difficult bid: statewide name recognition and a huge reserve of personal wealth he can use in the campaign. Also, unlike the House members who were also considered as substitute candidates, he does not have anything to lose by running and losing.

Lautenberg was a business executive before serving three terms in the Senate, deciding against a re-election bid in 2000. He counted among his accomplishments a law requiring companies to disclose chemicals they release into the environment, a law banning smoking on domestic flights and a law banning gun ownership by those convicted of domestic violence.


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To: Howlin
And we're back to "stealing" another election. I don't see how we can win this.

I'd rather be adressing this issue after a win than a loss.

441 posted on 10/01/2002 10:05:09 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Asclepius
So why do we even have rules?

The rules are for Republicans

442 posted on 10/01/2002 10:07:13 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: Howlin
I've run out of "descriptors" for this power grab.

Yeah, me too. Maybe God will decide to deal with this one directly. Who knows.

443 posted on 10/01/2002 10:09:41 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Smedley
Counselor I aleady denied your motion for the clearest of reasons. If the notion of holding two elections at once confuses you, that is unfortunate, but a quite common occurence, and is the statutory scheme in this state. But by all means advise your clients differently, and appeal the thing to death, and bill them to death. The best thing in life are fees.
444 posted on 10/01/2002 10:10:07 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham; Howlin
I think this is fairly easy to explain. My test case is my art student daughter. I asked her today if she knew about this. She said yes, but she didn't know why The Torch quit.

I said "Because he was behind in the polls and knew he was going to lose."

She said, "Yes, but why did he SAY he was quitting?"

"Because he was going to lose."

"HAHAHAHA! That is ridiculous! You can't get somebody else just because you are losing! HAHAHAHA!"

I do not think they can spin this as well as they think they can.

445 posted on 10/01/2002 10:10:24 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: AGreatPer
More like 3rd and 20, said team is down 13 points. Quarterback throws the ball, receiver doesn't catch it. Quarterback walks off the field and demands another quarterback not only get's to throw his previous pass, the quarterback get's to start out at 1st & goal!!
446 posted on 10/01/2002 10:15:39 PM PDT by Brytani
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To: TheExploited
That means the GOP should get a few 1st round draft picks out of this .. :-))
447 posted on 10/01/2002 10:16:21 PM PDT by Brytani
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To: Torie
Counselor I aleady denied your motion for the clearest of reasons. ...

Your "clearest of reasons" is nothing more than a delusional "I want it" totally unsupported by any law or equitable concept, and is wrought with Constitutional and statutory issues.

But keep on with your delusions.

448 posted on 10/01/2002 10:16:29 PM PDT by Smedley
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To: Torie
They will be taking away voters 'inclusivness' then now wouldn't they. Just cancel an election for 2 years.

B@$t@rds

449 posted on 10/01/2002 10:16:37 PM PDT by madison46
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To: Miss Marple
GOP better stop 'em from spinning it. Get some catchy phrase like 'disfranchise' and the sheep will spout it and vote dem.
450 posted on 10/01/2002 10:20:40 PM PDT by madison46
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To: marajade
But if you are talking about South Florida I could certainly make a guess.

Yeah, elderly Jews and ex-union members who have brought corrupt Dem Socialist politics to Broward and Palm Beach counties and Coastal Miami-Dade as well.

451 posted on 10/01/2002 10:22:18 PM PDT by Clemenza
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To: madison46
Nothing is being cancelled sir. Go back to reading your Federal papers. You were a statist anyway. But that is for another thread, ie Madison's hatred of states' rights. But I agreed with him.
452 posted on 10/01/2002 10:23:08 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Smedley
If Torie is delusional can you explain this seemingly simple declarative statement in the statute?

"NJ State Law.19:3-26. Vacancies in United States senate; election to fill; temporary appointment by governor If a vacancy shall happen in the representation of this state in the United States senate, it shall be filled at the general election next succeeding the happening thereof, unless such vacancy shall happen within thirty days next preceding such election, in which case it shall be filled by election at the second succeeding general election, unless the governor of this state shall deem it advisable to call a special election therefor, which he is authorized hereby to do."

453 posted on 10/01/2002 10:24:52 PM PDT by mlo
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To: umgud
Does this mean Lautenberg gets Torricelli`s cut from the sanitation guys?
454 posted on 10/01/2002 10:29:14 PM PDT by bybybill
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To: marajade
The only acceptable and ethical reason I can see for removing a candidate after a primary and putting another candidate on before the election is in the case of death of the candidate or the candidates spouse or child.

Anything other then that is down right unethical right up the rats alley.
455 posted on 10/01/2002 10:44:28 PM PDT by Brytani
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To: Miss Marple
Everybody needs to relax. The SCONJ will NEVER uphold this, and the dims have sealed thier loserly fate because:
1. This is a lost seat. The Dims on the court are not about to risk their credibility for one seat in Congress.If it were President; probably. It would still get overturned by Diana Ross.
2. Some ballots have already been printed and distributed. Some absentee ballots(votes) have already been returned. Can you imagine the possibility of re-mailing absentee ballots and disregarding those already submitted?(double voting)--Nightmare-quagmire-Florida revisited-Cold shivers
3. Every other asked cadidate said " Terry/Bill/Hillary Are you freakin nuts? You want me to put myself and my career in the cross-hairs of a national scandal....that we're going to lose? I'm supposed to do this to help the party? Thanks, but ...well, let me retract that last 'thanks'. Get off my phone."
4. The only candidate Torch vowed never to help or resign for was the very candidate the dims had to settle for. "I don't care what you have on me, I will not give one dime to that snake. If I get a bullet in the head, there are many pre-addressed envelopes that will bring ALL of you down. I know things. I couldn't be more humiliated than I am now. Resigning now to help the party only reinforces my guiltiness in the eyes of the public. F### off. I've still got a few government checks to cash before January."
5. The Dims are saying a live, non-repentant, primary winner should be taken off the ballot; in one state, because he was gonna lose, but a dead Congresswoman in Hawaii should still be eligible for election because she was going to win? That will reverberate nationally as pure tacky politics.

The bottom line is the dims will try anything; and blame the Republicans when it doesn't fly, but the smell of Clinton still wafts through the air. It's a smell you'll never forget. I think the voters still remember that smell. We'll see.

456 posted on 10/01/2002 11:03:10 PM PDT by Benjamin Dover
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To: mlo
If Torie is delusional can you explain this seemingly simple declarative statement in the statute?

I noticed that you omitted the latter part of the statute, which gives context to the statute as a whole.

But for the purpose of argument, I'll assume that it is perfectly okay to hold an election for the remainder of Torricelli's term, and that there are no Constitutional or statutory bars. However, we digress. The central issue is not whether a meaningless two month term is filled by election or appointment, but whether there is some justification to create a judicial exception to clear statutory language requiring 48 days to change a ballot.

On that note, I am tired. Good night

457 posted on 10/01/2002 11:06:35 PM PDT by Smedley
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To: eddie willers
The actions of Torricelli, McGreevey, Daschle, and now Lautenberg are ridiculous, and I daresay dangerous. Heck, by this standard, any candidate can drop out if they're running poorly in the polls. Why not do it here in Pennsylvania? Our GOP gubernatorial candidate is trailing Ed "Fast and Loose" Rendell by double-digits.

And wouldn't you know it, the Democrats are already tooting the "people should have a choice" rhetoric. Nevermind that Torricelli's the choice, it's past deadline for a replacement, and the rule of law backs that up.

I think Torricelli will resign anyway, opening up another can of worms. However, let's assume the courts rule in favor of the Democrats and Lautenberg is the candidate on election day. After Torricelli's shady dealings, and the Democrats muscling in another candidate--obstructing New Jersey law in the process--surely the New Jersey voters won't elect Lautenberg after all this. Will they?


458 posted on 10/01/2002 11:17:35 PM PDT by mdw278
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To: mlo
By the way, according to the NJ election statutes (http://www.utnj.org/title19.htm)

A general election is an election held on the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November in each year. (NJ 19:2-3), and the primary elections for general elections must be held in the previous June of that election year. (NJ 19:2-1).

459 posted on 10/01/2002 11:24:21 PM PDT by Smedley
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To: Miss Marple
I do not think we will appeal.

I'd think that we'd have no choice. This is a precedent that cannot stand.

-PJ

460 posted on 10/01/2002 11:28:48 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too
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