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CONSPIRACY: The Okla. City-Sept. 11 Connection
Philadelphia News ^ | Oct. 03, 2002 | Michael Smerconish

Posted on 10/03/2002 8:14:28 AM PDT by aculeus

I'M NOT A conspiracy guy. I think Oswald killed Kennedy, and that he acted alone. And, like all Americans, I figured that the tragic bombing of the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City was the work of two sick ex-Army guys, Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols.

Now I'm not so sure.

Last night, my radio station, the Big Talker 1210, brought three speakers to town for a remarkable presentation: Jayna Davis, a reporter from Oklahoma City; Larry Johnson, ex-deputy director of the State Department's office of counterterrorism, and Patrick Lang, Mideast expert formerly of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

In a spellbinding presentation, they made the case for a connection between Mideast terrorism, the Murrah bombing - and the attacks on the Twin Towers.

Now I know why former CIA Director James Woolsey has been quoted as saying that when the full truth is known about these acts of terrorism, the nation will owe Davis "a debt of gratitude."

Why her name is not already a household word is the greatest mystery of all. Just this week, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said that U.S. intelligence has "bulletproof" evidence of links between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein. Rumsfeld didn't offer specifics. But here is what we know from the work of Davis.

When the Murrah bombing occurred at 9:02 a.m. on April 19, 1995, Davis was a reporter for the NBC affiliate in Oklahoma City. She was among the first journalists to broadcast that an enormous truck bomb had rocked the heartland, killing 168 and injuring hundreds.

In the immediate aftermath of the explosion, the FBI launched an international pursuit of several Middle Eastern-looking men seen fleeing the Murrah Building in a brown Chevy pickup right before the blast. Without explanation, that all-points bulletin was later canceled. Two days later, Timothy McVeigh was a household name. So was Terry Nichols.

And that's where most of us left the tale. Stunned, but convinced that two Army buddies, homegrown terrorists, acted alone.

Thankfully, Davis didn't close this book as quickly as most of us did. She pursued the APB and set off to track reports of multiple sightings of McVeigh with an elusive dark-haired accomplice. The infamous sketch of John Doe No. 2 was always tucked firmly in her grip.

Davis soon uncovered that several employees at an Oklahoma City property- management company said they had seen a brown Chevy truck like the getaway vehicle aggressively pursued by law enforcement parked outside their office in the days before the bombing. The company's owner was a Palestinian with a rap sheet and suspected ties to the PLO.

Davis learned that, six months before the bombing, the Palestinian hired a handful of ex-Iraqi soldiers to do maintenance at his rental houses. Eyewitnesses told Davis that they celebrated the bombing.

She was also made aware that these same men were absent from work on April 17, 1995, the day McVeigh rented the Ryder truck that carried the bomb.

While pursuing the story of these Middle Eastern men, Davis also became aware of another ex-Iraqi soldier in Oklahoma City named Hussain Hashem Al-Hussaini. She was taken aback to see that Al-Hussaini's picture, when overlaid with the government sketch of John Doe No. 2, was arguably a perfect match. He even sported a tattoo on his upper left arm indicating that he likely had served in Saddam Hussein's Republican Guard.

Davis then set about looking for a connection to McVeigh, Nichols, Al-Hussaini and other Iraqis. It came when a colleague located two eyewitnesses who claimed to have independently seen Al-Hussaini drinking beer with McVeigh in an Oklahoma City nightclub just four days before the bombing.

This convinced her station to run with the Iraqi-connection story. It was met with some controversy.

The Justice Department responded that the identification of John Doe No. 2 was merely a case of mistaken identity. Al-Hussaini contacted local reporters, claiming to be falsely accused. Davis did not back off because she believed she could repudiate Al-Hussaini's alibi.

AND SHE LOCATED two dozen witnesses who identified eight specific Middle Eastern men, the majority of whom were ex-Iraqi soldiers, who were seen with McVeigh and Nichols. Two witnesses named Al-Hussaini as the dark-haired, olive-skinned man they observed one block from the Murrah Building just before daybreak on the day of the blast.

She also uncovered evidence that implicated several of Al-Hussaini's co-workers. One of these men was identified as sitting in the driver's seat of a Chevy pickup at an Oklahoma City apartment complex hours before the truck was abandoned on the lot and towed to the FBI command post. According to police records, the truck had been stripped of its vehicle identification numbers and identifying body molding.

The story gathered steam. Here, it would appear, was the deserted pickup that was the same vehicle that was seen speeding away from the vicinity of the Murrah building with two Arab-looking occupants.

And there was more. Five witnesses independently fingered several of Al-Hussaini's associates as frequent visitors to an Oklahoma City motel in the months, days, and hours leading up to 9:02 a.m. on April 19. On numerous occasions, the subjects were seen in the company of McVeigh, and during a few instances, associating with Nichols - at the same motel!

Davis spoke to the motel owner and a maintenance worker who said the men came within feet of a large Ryder truck parked on the west side of the parking lot at 7:40 a.m. on April 19. An unexplained odor of diesel fuel emanated from the rear carriage. Minutes later, McVeigh entered the motel office and returned the room key. The motel owner then saw McVeigh drive off the lot with a man identified as Al-Hussaini.

To this day, the Justice Department has refused to return the original registration logs for the motel.

Davis has 80 pages of affidavits and 2,000 supporting documents, and they suggest not only an Iraqi connection to the Murrah bombing, but also to the attacks against the Twin Towers.

For example, Nichols was a man of modest means. Yet he traveled frequently to the Philippines. Davis discovered that Nichols was there, in Cebu City in December 1994, at the same time as the convicted mastermind of the first World Trade Center attack, Ramzi Yousef.

She has also found evidence that Islamic terrorists boasted of having recruited two "lily whites" for terrorism.

Al-Hussaini had a very American response to Davis' investigation. He sued for defamation. In a ruling on Nov. 17, 1999, federal Judge Timothy Leonard dismissed the case.

In 1995, the federal grand jury proclaimed in the official indictment that McVeigh and Nichols acted with "others unknown." And several members of the Denver juries who convicted the two said publicly that they thought they had help.

Since 1997, Davis has repeatedly tried to interest the FBI in her investigation. She has been rebuffed.

As for Al-Hussaini, after leaving Oklahoma City, he went on to work at Boston's Logan International Airport, the point of origin for several for the 9/11 hijackers, including Mohammad Atta.

One more thing. That motel where McVeigh, Nichols and Al-Hussaini were seen together was later visited (pre-9/11) by Atta, Zacharias Moussaouy and Marwan Al-Shehi.

Michael Smerconish's column appears Thursdays. E-mail mas@mastalk.com.

© 2001 philly and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: fredthompson; okcbombing
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To: aculeus
Louis Freeh, are you hearing this?
61 posted on 10/03/2002 3:34:13 PM PDT by jd777
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To: aculeus
After reading through this article and thread, as well as the article posted at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/761191/posts, there is too much here to overlook.

Maybe this will finally bubble up and the story (and the implications contained within) will stop being ridiculed as tinfoil material ...

62 posted on 10/03/2002 3:41:29 PM PDT by spodefly
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To: Fred Mertz
It's just you and me thinden.

Room for one more, Fred? You may be right about this thread being ignored, though. Not much interest in anything other than electing republicans around here these days.

63 posted on 10/03/2002 4:02:57 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: taxed2death
Didn't that A$$hole Clinton let 30,000 or so Iraq soldiers and families settle into our country shortly after we kicked the living $hit out of them.

No, it was more like a few thousand and it was Wobbly who let them in. They're in OKC and the surrounding area, according to what has been posted here in recent years.

64 posted on 10/03/2002 4:09:44 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: Fred Mertz
BBTTT!!!!!!!!!
65 posted on 10/03/2002 5:32:16 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: Twodees
No, it was more like a few thousand and it was Wobbly who let them in. They're in OKC and the surrounding area, according to what has been posted here in recent years.

While I am not disputing this, I'm more than a bit curious about the circumstances of these former Iraqi soldiers' relocation to the U.S.

Were they let in as refugees, POWs or what? Knowing this could go partway toward either explaining or refuting the so-far unproven charge that Hussain Hashem Al-Hussaini might have been an Iraqi agent.

I'm still open to the idea he and others unknown were connected to a terrorist organization, not a foreign government.

66 posted on 10/03/2002 5:45:10 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: logician2u; backhoe; glorygirl
I really don't remember the circumstances. Since becoming interested in this and getting into the archives here I've read so much on various subjects that it tends to blur. Maybe backhoe or glorygirl could help narrow it down for you with a link or two from the archives. Sorry not to be better at remembering the details, but I do remember that these people came here on GHWBush's watch if what I read was correct.
67 posted on 10/03/2002 5:49:26 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: aculeus
"On September 29, 2001, Chicago attorney David Schippers confirmed the following article’s information to Eagle Forum of Illinois’...."

If Shippers was "just about ready to let the lid off of this" why has he not done so by now? It's been over a year!

68 posted on 10/03/2002 6:12:20 PM PDT by fightu4it
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To: fightu4it
Jayna Davis and Schippers did an interview on the Glenn Beck program several weeks ago. You can probably hear it on his web site.

Wall Street Journal ran an extensive article early in September, Editorial page, same material.

Pretty credible material I'd say.

69 posted on 10/03/2002 6:27:42 PM PDT by codder too
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To: Twodees
It will be a great day when the FR archives are once again searchable, IMHO.

I have bookmarks on OKC threads going way back, but darned if I intend to look at each one individually to search out the answers.

It would be simpler just to ask Patrick, but no longer possible in this forum. Bummer.
70 posted on 10/03/2002 6:30:19 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: codder too
I do not doubt Jayna Davis' work. It is Shippers who has the name recognition and the clout to put this work in front of the public's eyes. All he has to do is call a press conference. So why doesn't he take the lead and do this service for his Country?
71 posted on 10/03/2002 6:36:14 PM PDT by fightu4it
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To: browardchad
Funny you should mention this.It is one of the other items on my list that I started compiling after the craziness of the news reports that first day in Chicago.

I read that McVeigh had been all happy to be accepted in Delta Force,or some elite special forces unit.The article spoke to his bravery in Iraq and the honors he received and went on to relate the exemplary qualities necessary for selection to this force.I believe the first articles I read only knew he did not complete the training.The next few news releases stated that he had washed out or didn't make the grade.

Shortly thereafter the story that stuck was released. Tim McVeigh had reported for duty was given a psychological test the first day.It was graded and/or evaluated(evidentally)quite quickly because on the second day he was found to be not suitable for the force and was sent away. They said he was bitter.

I mean,really,we are supposed to believe the military can process someone in,administer a test,grade it and determine the person unfit within 24 hours. It does seem they should at least share this efficient system with big government.

72 posted on 10/03/2002 6:36:54 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: fightu4it
I don't know why Shippers hasn't done more with this before now. I believe that Davis held the material tightly for a long time in order to protect it and herself. She may still be the one controlling what is done with it.

Just a thought...Maybe she has more than she has released to the public. Lets hope it gets to the right place if it hasn't already if that is the case.

73 posted on 10/03/2002 6:45:09 PM PDT by codder too
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To: aculeus
Bump for later reading!
74 posted on 10/03/2002 6:54:27 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: glorygirl
BTTT
75 posted on 10/03/2002 8:18:02 PM PDT by Marianne
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To: glorygirl
Jayna Davis' work, affidavits, contemporaneous reports confirm Middle Eastern men with McVeigh, including John Doe Number Two.

TWA Flight 800 wasn't a fuel tank explosion. The obscene lengths the FBI went to to suppress and distort evidence, e.g., bending the fuselage back from its inwardly bent position, indicate otherwise. The most obvious cause would be a terrorist with a Stinger in the boat leaving the scene on the radar track.

Strassmeier as connected to the Hamburg-Atta faction shows promise.

Germany has recently distinguished itself as pro-Iraqi, anti-American.

Still don't understand the banning of OKCSubmariner. At the time I said it was what they do in China. strela said oh no, that's hysterical hyperbole, China is tanks running you over and 9mm's. Funny, I thought China these days was simply censorship of the type they successfully put on Yahoo, while Alta Vista fought it.

76 posted on 10/03/2002 9:26:40 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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To: PhilDragoo
"Strassmeier as connected to the Hamburg-Atta faction shows promise".

Enlighten me on this, please. (I know about Strassmeir's familial connections to the Nazis). Is someone somewhere suggesting he knew Atta?

77 posted on 10/03/2002 9:51:34 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: PhilDragoo
Germany has recently distinguished itself as pro-Iraqi, anti-American.

Phil, I respect your opinion on many things; however, isn't it a stretch to say Germany is "pro-Iraqi" because the German government refuses to back an armed overthrow of the Iraqi government?

I favor decriminalization of all illegal drugs; that doesn't make me "pro-drug." It only means I consider the effects of the WOD worse than the worst possible consequences if we were to abandon it.

78 posted on 10/03/2002 9:59:55 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: PhilDragoo; ~Kim4VRWC's~; hoi-polloi; Jim Robinson; OKCSubmariner; honway; backhoe; flamefront; ...
Anybody who has a question about why OKCSubmariner was banned ought to write to Jim Robinson, not to me. I wasn't the one who banned him.

Jim has a right to ban whoever he wishes -- but he ought to be the one explaining why it happened.

Pat was the one person (ever) on FR who knew EVERTHING that has been reported about the case, and was willing to correspond with other freepers. Even if he was never allowed to post another thing, it would certainly be easier on the rest of us if he was permitted to send and answer private freepmail. It is unfortunate that some of us now have to serve as "go-betweens" in order to get accurate information about this case.
79 posted on 10/03/2002 10:09:34 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: Swordmaker
FBI files contain scurrilous stuff - if there are any FReepers who have enemies, imagine what your worst enemies would say to an FBI agent asking questions about you. It can be 100% bogus - the opposite of the truth - but you will see your reputation trashed by despicable people who can say "Hey, the FBI said it!"
80 posted on 10/03/2002 10:19:16 PM PDT by 185JHP
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