CONSPIRACY: The Okla. City-Sept. 11 Connection

Philadelphia News ^ | Oct. 03, 2002 | Michael Smerconish

[Fred Mertz]

It's just you and me thinden. This thread won't go very far, unfortunately.

[soozla]

At one time, there were links posted here to very early radio reports made immediately after the bombing. The links seem to have dried up. They provided some very different, CONFLICTING, eyewitness testimony as to what was actually being seen and heard at the time of the bombing. And it was VERY COMPELLING information.

Anyone have any clue as to the where-abouts of those old audio links????????? I believe one of them was Jayna Davis' report!

[dts32041]

With the way the Klintoon FIBi's worked I would expect nothing less.

Not saying I agree or diasgree, but the FIBI's have left something to be desired as an investigative unit in the past twenty thiryt years.

[austingirl]

It happened on Klinton's watch - it makes perfect sense that he would try to blame home-grown terrorists and try to imply a right-wing connection while burying the truth. If the truth were known, he might have had to actually do something about the Iraquis.

[soozla]

P.S. NEVER FORGET.......use it when referring to 9/11................AND use it when referring to.......WHO WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AT THE TIME OF THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING???????????????.......therefore ANYTHING resembling a cover-up/distortion of information which points to the highest levels of the Administration...is DEFINITELY possible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RippleFire]

BUMP

[cloud8]

Here's more, from from an interview with Jayna Davis's lawyer, David Shippers. I'm not a conspiracy guy either, and to tell the truth, I don't yet know what to think, although David Schippers has always received respect on FR. (source: http://www.ileagles.net/schippers.htm.)
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On September 29, 2001, Chicago attorney David Schippers confirmed the following article’s information to Eagle Forum of Illinois’ State President, Fran Eaton. David Schippers is most well-known as the Chief Counsel for the House Judiciary Committee on Impeachment. He authored the important book on the Clinton impeachment, "Sell Out."

The conversation went as follows:

Eaton: Mr. Schippers, I have a few questions for you about the recent events in our nation. I want to dispel urban legends, and would like to confirm fact as you know it on this matter.

Schippers: I’ll be happy to help you in any way I can.

Eaton: Mr. Schippers, is it true that you are now representing the former television reporter Jayna Davis from Oklahoma City as one of your clients?

Schippers: That is true.

Eaton: Is it true that Jayna Davis knows of an accomplice in the Oklahoma City bombing that had Mid-East connections, but who was covered up during the McVeigh trial?

Schippers: Mrs. Davis not only knows of the accomplice, she has a sketch of him, knows his name, and has interviewed numerous people who shared eye witness accounts of "John Doe 2" either with Tim McVeigh or leaving the Murrah Building area on the day of the bombing.

Eaton: Is it your suspicion that Bin Laden was involved in the Oklahoma City bombing by financing or some other way?

Schippers: There is strong evidence that makes me believe that is so.

Eaton: Is it also your suspicion that Bin Laden was involved in the downing of Flight 800 in New York?

Schippers: There is strong evidence that makes me believe that is true as well.As a matter of fact, high levels of intelligence have leaked that Flight 800 exploded because of a letter bomb that was on board the plane that day.

Eaton: It is my understanding that after reading Jayna Davis evidence that you were so convinced of looming danger on our nation’s security that you attempted to notify the Department of Justice about another attack, this time on the financial district in south Manhattan?

Schippers: Five weeks before the September 11 tragedy, I did my best to get a hold of Attorney General John Ashcroft with my concerns. The best that I could do was get in touch with an underling in that office who told me that all investigations start out at lower levels such as his. Fifteen minutes before the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center, Jayna Davis got a phone call. On the other end of the line, a voice with a Mid-Eastern accent told her, ‘Turn on your TV.’ She turned it on, and witnessed what the world saw - the World Trade Center burning and shortly thereafter, a second plane flying directly into the second tower.

Eaton: Why is this all being kept quiet?

Schippers: Believe me, I’m just about ready to let the lid off of this . . .

[taxed2death]

The name Andre' Strausmeyer pops to mind. He's Austrian, I think. Do a web search, I'm not sure of the spelling of the last name. Seems he had a connection to a white seperatist group and his main squeeze was an FBI imformant with quite a bit of knowledge about the bombing.....before it happened.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

I'm here. This story is fascinating.

[Victor]

Andras Strasmeir is a German national. His father is in German politics/government. The best account I've seen so far is in Ambrose Evans-Pritchard's book "The Secret Life of Bill Clinton".

This book is a must read, IMHO.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

I have pondered that as well. My best and most optimistic guess is that Bush is waiting for the naysayers to drag it out of him, rather than just come out and say,
"Saddam blew up the Murrah Building so we better get him!"

Rather, I'm hoping he'll finally come out with, "OK, OK,
I didn't want to have to say this about a former president, but here's what Klinton did." Then he drops the much demanded and heavily damning evidence on everybody. Especially if there is another attack before we nail Saddam.

I know, I'm kidding myself. He will continue the coverup.

[VRW Conspirator]

One more thing. That motel where McVeigh, Nichols and Al-Hussaini were seen together was later visited (pre-9/11) by Atta, Zacharias Moussaouy and Marwan Al-Shehi.

This is enough to start a full fledged investigation IMHO.

[saradippity]

Thanks for posting this.I watched TV the day of the OK bombing all day long.I was in Chicago at the time. Several times they said that federal agents were watching the Chicago airports for a German National suspected of being involved with the bombings.

I also heard broadcasts from Oklahoma City news and mention was made of mid-eastern involvement and connections.That first day was probably the last day we heard pretty honest accounts of what was happening in the mainstream media.

Given that I had always believed that Clinton and Gore were commie,pinko,knee-jerk liberal,deceitful,duplicitous,lying,diabolical jack-a--es,I was not surprised at the subsequent cover-up and disinformation campaign.However,I was surprised and disappointed when Bush and Ashcroft with the opportunity afforded by the pending execution of Tim McVeigh seemed to also fail in the pursuit of truth.

[Swordmaker]

Gee... do ya think the mainstream press is finally going to do something with this??? Nah.

None of this is new. We here at FR have known this stuff for years... we followed many of the leads and posted them here as they came up.

What did we get for our trouble? We got called "Tin Foil Hat", "Missile Hugger" and many other epithets far worse... all instigated and orchestrated by a few dis-information artists.

[Swordmaker]

...However,I was surprised and disappointed when Bush and Ashcroft with the opportunity afforded by the pending execution of Tim McVeigh seemed to also fail in the pursuit of truth.

Remember the 1100+ FBI files the Clinton's purloined, transcribing copies in to the WHODB and sending them to the DNC headquarters computer? Bush, Ashcroft, et al, are beholden to a host of current and former (Dang, it hurts to say this) governmental officials of Bush 1's and now Bush 2's administrations that may (probably) did things they DO NOT WANT REVEALED! We now have the case where major treasonous activities are being covered up because of petty crimes done in the past and now recorded in the DNC basement.

[jbstrick]

I was there....

I lived on 144th and Pennsylvania Ave on that fateful day. The blast was large enough to cause pictures to fall off of my wall.

After the blast (within about 30 seconds) I turned on my scanner. One of the forst APB's I heard was for the Middle Eastern man in a brown pickup.

To this day I believe there is a ME connection. Oklahoma City is crawling with Iraq and HAMAS sympathizers.

[GSWarrior]

Let's not forgot how swiftly McVeigh's execution was carried out.