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Maureen Dowd: 'Influential Jews' Pushing Iraq War
NewsMax ^ | 10/7/02 | Limbacher

Posted on 10/07/2002 9:03:17 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
This just in, Dowd blames power couple Madonna and Guy Ritchie for their influence over GWB...
41 posted on 10/07/2002 10:10:56 AM PDT by Paradox
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Dowd is like the rest of the left wing whore$ in the Ny $limes.

They were been bought out decades ago by the Opecker Princes and the Islsmofascist thugs like Saddam.

This blame the Jews sounds just like the racist garbage coming out of the mouths of the mullahs/imans who preach this hatred in the mosques of the Middle East every Friday.
42 posted on 10/07/2002 10:22:47 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I say, Thank God for those influential Jews! By the way, after giving support to freerepublic, one of the next best sources of conservative thought on line --the jewishworldreview.com-- also just started a pledge drive. Donations are tax deductable.

Anyhow, the rise of vocal anti-Jewish sentiment in the world and in the US SINCE 9-11-01 is very disturbing. Ever since 9-11 I've had this feeling that we're seeing the rebirth of another National Socialist revolution --on a global scale. So what if Jewish conservatives are supporting a war with Iraq? I'm willing to bet that there is a far larger number of Christian Conservatives who support the war, just as their is a far greater number of Christians who support Israel than their are Jews.

43 posted on 10/07/2002 10:24:41 AM PDT by Sally II
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Now for what I think about Maureen Dowd!
(waiting for the applause to die down from the voices in my head)

Well, this woman is way too smart to be an actual democrat...(Republicans have a tendancy to think people are honest observers)
I'll bet she could care less about anything and just uses the clueless (there are many) to make MONEY! (Atlas Shrugged kind of thing). Got to admit the bitch can coin a phrase or two. If so, politics has nothing to do with it. Shes bucking to be the Jerry Springer of the politically clueless. (to self- course the whole democratic party could fit that mold) Anyway, nobody could put together phrases the way she does and be clueless. So, I believe she believes the whole political thing is a joke. Voila!, tongue in cheek gaff's that appear to be serious, but she could really care less. Her intellect is geared toward giving the clueless a cliche' which is good enough for them, cause they really don't care about America anyway. (voices)What about Micheal Kelly then!?... Well, Micheal Kelly, really is stupid..next...
me-Back to Maureen....(voice) What about Phil Donahue ?.... me- DUH!---(stop it)....(voice) Well, what about..

This ain't workin,,,sorry..

44 posted on 10/07/2002 10:32:02 AM PDT by hosepipe
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To: section9
Very well put, Section9! I cannot tell you how infuriated I am with my fellow co-religionists (I am Jewish) who still subscribe to the NY Times, who still support the Dems. Most of them have foresaken their core Jewish beliefs for the modern version of utopia. I know that they will wake up and are alerady doing so (of Jewish voters under 30, 61% voted for Bush). I just hope it'll happen soon.
45 posted on 10/07/2002 10:32:30 AM PDT by TopQuark
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To: friendly
when the Democratic National Committee is not running vile anti-Catholic propaganda and slanderous cartoons... The anti-Semitic remarks such as Dowd's are pretty clear. But I did not know about the anti-Catholic bias of the DNC. If it is true, it is as appalling to me as anti-Semitism: I am Jewish, but bigotry against Catholics is as repugnant to me as prejudice as against my own religion: dirt is dirt.

Could you please give me more information (links, references?) on the anti-Catholic statements by the DNC?

46 posted on 10/07/2002 10:37:35 AM PDT by TopQuark
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Well, certainly there's that - what many would call a cabal within the administration - of not only those who are very much in favor of going into Iraq and removing Saddam Hussein a la an invasion - and one of the strongest voices within the administration, of course, is Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz. (End of Excerpt)
Those evil Jews!

Dowd's next move will be to quote to us from the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.
48 posted on 10/07/2002 10:40:41 AM PDT by Asclepius
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To: Alouette
AHAH! So you're the one! I knew there was a conspiracy!
49 posted on 10/07/2002 10:42:42 AM PDT by bribriagain
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To: NativeNewYorker
post 31: LOL!
50 posted on 10/07/2002 10:45:33 AM PDT by bribriagain
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To: section9
Jewish pro-war lobby exists within a much larger universe of pro-war conservatives.

And a universe of pro-war moderates and liberals. The NY Times when on a road trip last week down I-80 trying to find Americans to speak out against the war. By and large, the found unanimity on the issue that "something has to be done" about Saddam.

This included persons willing to admit that 1) the economy is tanking and should be addressed by the Prezz; 2) pre-emption sets a bad precedent and is bad for US image & values; 3) the war is politically timed; 4) previous American foreign policy contributed to the problem; 5) W is not very smart and has not articulated the case for war to their satisfaction, etc, etc, etc.

The Times concluded that the 9/11 attacks changed American thinking on the Middle East, making American safe from terrorists the issue.

Well duhh!

51 posted on 10/07/2002 10:47:45 AM PDT by ARCADIA
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To: section9
"The more you peel away the Left, the more you approach its anti-Semitic, fascistic core."

Deserves a bump.

52 posted on 10/07/2002 10:53:38 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: headsonpikes
"The more you peel away the Left, the more you approach its anti-Semitic, fascistic core."

This German says much the same thing. A good read on the affinities between racists, the left, and Hussein.

Interview / Vicious circles closing in

53 posted on 10/07/2002 11:35:48 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: TopQuark
Re Democrat anti-Catholic bigotry:

On July 31, Catholic League president William Donohue wrote to DNC Chairman Terry McAuliffe imploring him to “act quickly and decisively by removing Catholics for a Free Choice from the DNC’s links of interest organizations.” On August 6, Donohue wrote to every Democrat in the House and Senate asking for assistance in this matter. But nothing has changed. Thus, the need for a formal campaign.

“We are asking all Catholics to contact the DNC and make known their outrage over the DNC-CFFC link. Frances Kissling, who heads CFFC, has said that it is her goal to ‘overthrow’ the Catholic Church. She has also lobbied the U.N. to kick the Holy See out of the world organization. No wonder she has twice been denounced as a fraud by the U.S. bishops. And this is the kind of Catholic that the DNC wants to associate with?"

54 posted on 10/07/2002 12:22:54 PM PDT by friendly
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To: section9
For them not to try to speak up and influence policy could be considered criminal negligence on the part of the Jewish community. However, where Dowd is altogether wrong is to fail to point out that the Jewish pro-war lobby exists within a much larger universe of pro-war conservatives.

Having read your previous post, I am very surprised by this one.

You are totally wrong.

The Jewish communiy would never approve actions by a Jew acting in official capacity that are contrary to his duties. Any Jew in the government, as well as Gentile, is supposed to promote, to full extent of his capacity, the interest of the United States.

What you have said, whether deliberately or inadvertently, is a libel that anti-Semites like Dows promulgate.

You should take your words back, because they have defamed a large number of people.

55 posted on 10/07/2002 12:50:30 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark
For them not to try to speak up and influence policy could be considered criminal negligence on the part of the Jewish community. However, where Dowd is altogether wrong is to fail to point out that the Jewish pro-war lobby exists within a much larger universe of pro-war conservatives.

Having read your previous post, I am very surprised by this one.

You are totally wrong.

The Jewish communiy would never approve actions by a Jew acting in official capacity that are contrary to his duties. Any Jew in the government, as well as Gentile, is supposed to promote, to full extent of his capacity, the interest of the United States.

What you have said, whether deliberately or inadvertently, is a libel that anti-Semites like Dows promulgate.

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What an absolute misreading of everything I stand for.

I was pointing out, rightly, that Jews have learned the lesson of the Twentieth Century. I would argue that they have learned it a whole lot better than have Gentiles. There aren't too many self-hating Jews writing bitter criticisms of Israel and Zionism in the editorial pages of The Guardian, now are there? Nope. Most of them are Gentiles, like Robert Fisk, John Pilger, or Polly Toynbee.

If there is a Jew in power, and he sees the likes of a Saddam Hussein coming at him, it would be well nigh criminal for him not to speak up. When Jews did not speak up; when Jews did not resist, the result was a railhead in Poland that the Germans called Auschwitz. I have no problem with a Jew remembering what became of his people in the Twentieth Century to apply those lessons to the crises of the Twenty-First. That is no libel; that is a Jew applying the lessons of a painful past to protect the larger society from evil.

Just because a Jew says that it is a good thing to protect Israel does not mean that it is wrong for him to say it, simply because he is Jewish. It does mean that he values Israel as an ally, as a Democracy, and as a homeland for the Jewish people. It does not follow that he is arguing for the security of Israel at the expense of his own nation.

I will leave it to the likes of Dowd to peddle the polite anti-Semitism of the chattering classes. Such thinking is not for me.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

56 posted on 10/07/2002 9:12:05 PM PDT by section9
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To: BrooklynGOP
This is the same as Henry Ford blaming the "international jews". Some of you world war two buffs should know exactly what I mean.
57 posted on 10/07/2002 9:17:49 PM PDT by Brush_Your_Teeth
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To: DWSUWF
Scratch a Dowd and you find an anti-Semitic &$#ch"

What did she say that was anti-semitic?

58 posted on 10/07/2002 9:18:26 PM PDT by HunterBonham
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To: friendly; TopQuark
Just FYI, "Catholics for a Free Choice" [sic] is essentially a lobbying / rabble-rousing outfit. They have no membership, no chapters, no national meetings, etc. They are heavily financed by NARAL, Planned [non]Parenthood, the Ford Foundation, the Packard Foundation, etc.

Saying that Frances Quisling "heads CFFC" is wrong; she and a small staff are CFFC. Since she used to work at an abortion mill, she's long ago an excommunicate Catholic.

59 posted on 10/07/2002 9:25:00 PM PDT by Campion
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To: HunterBonham; Alouette; Yehuda; Nachum
Well, Ms Dowd (appropriate last name) uses an old canard:The Jews control (select from the following list) the: (banks/US government (aka ZOG)/media (not bloody likely)/Blood Libel). In actual fact, the vast majority of Jews do NOT follow the "federations" and other loudmouths in lockstep any more than Catholics speak with one voice or follow the Berrimans (are those guys still ordained?) Ms Dowd (a harridan leftist hag) is stating this load of Horse Hillary as if there is a cabal of Jews who are playing puppetmaster. I would say Lutnick is not Irish or Italian (guessing Russian or Polish Jew) and the late Mr Lutnick was the brother of the head of Cantor Fitzgerald and perished along with 700 staffers on 9/11.

As for other silly misconceptions, Mossad may have decent Humint but they are too busy monitoring all the assorted Arab states and terror groups to go messing with US Jews (Pollard was a disgraceful exception and he will pay in the next life).

60 posted on 10/07/2002 9:32:11 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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