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A polluted process
Washington Times ^ | Tuesday, October 8, 2002 | Charli Coon

Posted on 10/07/2002 11:16:31 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:57:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Politics, they say, is the art of compromise. You give something, I give something. In the end, we wind up with something everyone's happy with.

That's how worthwhile legislation is forged, right?

Yes, usually. But compromise could earn a bad name from the old-fashioned "horse-trading" under way as federal lawmakers try to hammer out a deal over energy legislation they hope to send President Bush sometime soon.


(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anwr; energylist; enviralists
Tuesday, October 8, 2002

Quote of the Day by lavrenti

1 posted on 10/07/2002 11:16:31 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: *Energy_List; *Enviralists
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2 posted on 10/08/2002 7:33:54 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: backhoe; madfly; Stand Watch Listen; brityank; OldFriend; Grampa Dave; editor-surveyor; ...
bump
3 posted on 10/13/2002 2:26:49 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Destroy Iraq and OPEC will collapse. Another incentive for the Leftists to "maintain peace"?
4 posted on 10/13/2002 2:29:50 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: JohnHuang2
I wonder what Mr Choon thinks about nuclear energy
5 posted on 10/13/2002 2:38:50 PM PDT by Grover_Cleveland
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To: JohnHuang2
Congressional negotiators should stop and ask: What's our goal?

Presumably, it's to provide Americans a safe, secure, plentiful supply of energy at affordable prices. Energy brings growth; growth brings economic vitality, and economic vitality brings a higher standard of living.

The author identifies the goal for only one side of the debate.

The other side has a quite different goal: to protect the muskeg, mosquitos and tundra from the depredations of American energy companies, thereby wounding capitalism and bringing us closer to a socialist society.

Accordingly, Congressional negotiators don't have a whole helluva lot of common ground to find...

6 posted on 10/13/2002 2:48:07 PM PDT by okie01
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Start drilling for oil in ANWR, now !!

Let's Roll !!

The RATS are in disarray...eradicate the rodents !!

Fire Democrats, Hire Republicans !!

GWB Is The Man !!

Snuff Saddam, NOW !!

Death To all Tyrant's !!

The Second Amendment...
America's Original Homeland Security !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!

7 posted on 10/13/2002 4:46:00 PM PDT by blackie
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ping
8 posted on 10/13/2002 5:58:59 PM PDT by madfly
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To: JohnHuang2; Tailgunner Joe; madfly
"Congress should shun horse-trading when it comes to energy policy. It ought to set a reasonable and desirable goal — plentiful and affordable energy for all Americans — and work from there. Our economy, our strength as a nation — not to mention common sense — demand that we do things a little differently this time.

BTTT!

Thanks for the post, JH2. And, thanks for the pings, TG and mad.

9 posted on 10/13/2002 6:41:58 PM PDT by dixiechick2000
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To: blackie
Great rant, blackie!

I thought it deserved a bump of it's own...

10 posted on 10/13/2002 6:42:55 PM PDT by dixiechick2000
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Thanks for the heads up!
11 posted on 10/13/2002 7:20:11 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: madfly
Thanks for the ping.

The truth is, before proceeding privately to set it up ourselves, we briefed staffers for a lot of these folks.

We found no interest coming back from all these "leaders" in proceeding along a path of deployment that will give us energy independence in far less time than it will take to start traditional production in ANWR by alternative production of oil and other conventional fuels, coupled with better altervative hydrocarbon fuel and engines followed by the deployment of non HC fuels.

The reason why our officials refuse to take a different path that would actually solve the problem, and would have prevented the Terror in the first place,can be found in a number of places, but two are:

the sidetracking of government research into the answer by what appears to have been a relatively low level corruption of the process, and

Saudi maneuvering that "helped" us by killing innovative technology that would have brought the solution to deployment by the end of the 1980's by which tme the oil companies had effectively become tools of Saudi policy.

12 posted on 10/13/2002 10:22:34 PM PDT by AmericanVictory
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*** Yet the Senate version of the energy legislation would require electricity suppliers to obtain escalating portions of their energy from renewable sources. The standard would start at 1 percent in 2005 and climb to 10 percent by 2020. They could fulfill the requirement by buying the high-cost renewables, buying "credits" from power companies that bought the renewables or buying credits from the Energy Department. All three options would serve mainly to hike energy costs for consumers.***

BUMP!

13 posted on 10/13/2002 11:57:55 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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That's a no way BUMP!
14 posted on 10/13/2002 11:59:51 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: madfly
They do too much of their dang 'horse-trading' behind closed doors! But ALWAYS leave their 'scat' behind for us to clean up.
15 posted on 10/14/2002 12:22:08 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: madfly
BTTT!!!!!!
16 posted on 10/14/2002 3:11:05 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Tailgunner Joe
BTTT!!!!!!
17 posted on 10/14/2002 3:11:45 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: dixiechick2000
Thanks DixieChick !!

Fredom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!
18 posted on 10/14/2002 8:07:42 AM PDT by blackie
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Take back the Senate, drill ANWR, ping!
19 posted on 10/14/2002 10:33:54 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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