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Bush Iraq Plan Hits Snag in Senate (My Title - Byrd screws Dems, Tenet screws Bush)
AP via NYT ^ | 10-8-02 | AP

Posted on 10/08/2002 1:00:31 PM PDT by frmrda

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Saddam Hussein's apparent policy of not resorting to terrorist attacks against the United States could change if he concludes a U.S.-led attack against him was inevitable, CIA Director George Tenet said as President's Bush bid for congressional support to use force hit a snag in the Senate.

Tenet, in a letter read before a joint hearing of the House and Senate intelligence committees Tuesday, said that ``Baghdad for now appears to be drawing a line short of conducting terrorist attacks with conventional or chemical or biological weapons.''

But Tenet went on to say that should Saddam conclude that a U.S.-led attack against his country could not be deterred, ``he probably would become much less constrained in adopting terrorist action.''

Both the House and the Senate were debating the Iraq war resolution.

But while it appeared to be clear sailing for the measure in the GOP-led House, Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., served notice on other Democrats at a party luncheon that he intended to use parliamentary tactics to delay a final vote, according to those who attended the session.

That could delay the vote well into next week, suggested Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-W.Va.

Byrd, widely respected for his deep knowledge of the Senate rules, has emerged as the primary Senate opponent to the president's war resolution.

The House began a fateful three-day debate on the measure on Tuesday. The Senate, which has been debating the measure since last Thursday, resumed its debate.

If forced into war, ``We will prevail,'' President Bush told a Tennessee audience.

``At this moment, the people's house begins debate on one of the most difficult questions we will ever face,'' said Rep. David Dreier, R-Calif.

The House hoped to conclude by Thursday night. The measure before both chambers provides the president wide latitude to take military action to disarm Saddam of chemical, biological or nuclear weapons and, if possible, depose the Iraqi leader.

Anticipating an overwhelming vote of support in Congress, Bush told a Knoxville, Tenn., rally on Tuesday, ``Military option is my last choice, the last choice. But should we commit our military, we'll be ready. We'll be prepared. We'll have a great plan and make no mistake about it, we will prevail.''

Secretary of State Colin Powell, meeting with lawmakers on Capitol Hill, said the congressional resolution ``will definitely strengthen my hand as I try to do the diplomatic work up in New York to get a United Nations Security Council resolution'' requiring unimpeded weapons inspections in Iraq.

Powell said there was increasing support at the U.N. for a new inspections mandate. ``All of my colleagues at the United Nations and others I've spoken to around the world clearly see the threat,'' he said.

At the Pentagon, a Defense Intelligence Agency official told reporters that Saddam is actively making biological and chemical weapons -- and trying to hide that fact from the world.

Iraq is ``taking steps to conceal sensitive equipment and documentation in anticipation of new inspections,'' John Yurechko said.

In a somber address to the nation Monday evening, Bush said the threat from Iraq was unique and imminent and there was no time to wait for final proof that Saddam had developed a nuclear capability -- ``the smoking gun -- that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud.''

``While there are many dangers in the world, the threat from Iraq stands alone because it gathers the most serious dangers of our age in one place,'' the president said.

Bush told a Cincinnati audience in his televised speech that Saddam was ``a homicidal dictator who is addicted to weapons of mass destruction,'' and that if he succeeds in obtaining nuclear weapons to add to his biological and chemical stockpiles, he ``would be in a position to blackmail anyone who opposes his aggression.''

In Baghdad, the government of Iraq on Tuesday described Bush's speech as an attempt to justify an attack.

``The speech contained misleading information through which Bush is trying to justify an illogical and illegitimate attack on Iraq,'' said Foreign Minister Naji Sabri Sabri.

On Tuesday, a Pentagon official reiterated U.S. warnings that Iraqi military officers should refuse orders to use chemical or biological weapons. Any Iraqis involved in such attacks would be treated as war criminals after the conflict ended, said Douglas Feith, undersecretary for policy at the Defense Department.

The House has allotted 21 hours to debate what House International Relations Committee Chairman Henry Hyde, R-Ill., a chief sponsor of the White House-backed resolution, called ``one of the most consequential questions we will deal with for years to come.''

That resolution urges the United Nations to enforce strict new rules on inspecting Iraq and eliminating its weapons of mass destruction, while giving the president the authority to act unilaterally if the United Nations fails to crack down on the Iraqi threat. It also requires the president to notify Congress, no later than 48 hours after commencing military action, on why diplomatic efforts were inadequate.

Bush said congressional authorization of a military strike ``does not mean that military action is imminent or unavoidable. The resolution will tell the United Nations, and all nations, that America speaks with one voice and is determined to make the demands of the civilized world mean something.''

Both the House and Senate will also vote on more narrowly drawn alternatives, backed mainly by Democrats, that would authorize force only to deal with the Iraqi weapons buildup and allow unilateral action against Iraq only after the United Nations fails to act or Iraq refuses to cooperate with demands for unfettered inspections.

There was little doubt, however, that the Bush-backed language would win out in the end, probably by a sizable margin.


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To: Catspaw
So how much pork does Byrd want for West Virginia?

The sky's the limit!

21 posted on 10/08/2002 1:35:29 PM PDT by piasa
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To: EternalHope
If any Americans die because of Byrd's delaying tactics, he should be hung.

Actually, it's "hanged". I don't want to know about the other meaning at all.

22 posted on 10/08/2002 1:36:34 PM PDT by MrB
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To: TonyInOhio; cajungirl
senator_byrd@byrd.senate.gov

Dear Senator;

I am writing to tell you how much I support what you are doing with regards to this illegal, unconstitutional War with Iraq. This President has gone too far and I believe if a Man such as yourself were accupying the West Wing then our Nation wouldnt be in this mess.

Please do all you can to stop the Senate from giving way to this nonsense.

_____________________________________________

~Grin~

23 posted on 10/08/2002 1:37:10 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: VaBthang4
Absolutely Fabulous!
24 posted on 10/08/2002 1:41:40 PM PDT by TonyInOhio
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To: jbind
Baghdad for now appears to be drawing a line short of conducting terrorist attacks with conventional or chemical or biological weapons.'' .... But Tenet went on to say that should Saddam conclude that a U.S.-led attack against his country could not be deterred, ``he probably would become much less constrained in adopting terrorist action.''

The way Im reading it, he's essentially stating that right now Sadam is contained, but should we attack Iraq, he's more likely to us his weapons. It sounds to me like he's taking the containment approach rather than the President's preemptive approach

25 posted on 10/08/2002 1:42:12 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: dead
"If any man haul down the American flag, shoot him on the spot." - Union Major General John A. Dix. 1861
26 posted on 10/08/2002 1:43:13 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: PogySailor
If the $500M Robert Byrd Homeland Security Center were proposed to be located in WV, he'd be onboard like flies on *&^%.

Make that the $500M Robert C. Byrd Homeland Security Center and it's a done deal. You DO want the Homeland Security Center to bear the full name of the #1 Porkmeister in the Senate, don't you?

27 posted on 10/08/2002 1:43:36 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: TonyInOhio
I hope they talk all month in the Senate. No wonder Daschle looked like Hell on Sunday morning during Meet the Press.
28 posted on 10/08/2002 1:56:07 PM PDT by mwl1
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To: Catspaw
Like a starched-white KKK nightshirt and bonnet, this is pretty, pretty, pretty.
29 posted on 10/08/2002 1:57:59 PM PDT by mwl1
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To: frmrda
To Senator Byrd: Delay away you senile old coot!!! This will keep attention focused on the war on terrorism and blow up Little Tommy D@shole's and Terry McAuliffe's desperate attempts to blame President Bush for the "disastrous economy."

ROTFLOL--Dumb@ssocrat party "discipline" is disintegrating day by day.

30 posted on 10/08/2002 2:00:46 PM PDT by RooRoobird14
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To: frmrda
Byrd, widely respected for his deep knowledge of the Senate rules

When this old prune finally dries up that's what will be on his gravestone after 40 years on the public teat:

"HERE LIES SEN. ROBERT BYRD... ....HE SURE NEW THE RULES GOOD!"

31 posted on 10/08/2002 2:07:14 PM PDT by JimVT
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To: frmrda
So the Iraqi blackmail of the US and Western Nations begins with if you invade us we will unleash bio terror. And the Senate cowers in fear. If Saddam does do something like that there will be no Iraq, no Saddam. This bunch of cowards makes me ashamed. They are truly disgusting. Are we going to go on forever with the threat of Iraq hurting us and letting them do whatever they want to get nukes? These defenders of the American people are useless and who needs them?
32 posted on 10/08/2002 2:16:41 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: frmrda

Is that a horn starting to grow out of his forehead?

Can't quite tell if he's starting to look more like Carville or the Devil. Not that there's really a difference....

33 posted on 10/08/2002 2:25:40 PM PDT by mgstarr
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To: freeperfromnj
AP via NYT:Baghdad for now appears to be drawing a line short of conducting terrorist attacks with conventional or chemical or biological weapons.'' .... But Tenet went on to say that should Saddam conclude that a U.S.-led attack against his country could not be deterred, ``he probably would become much less constrained in adopting terrorist action.''

The way Im reading it, he's essentially stating that right now Sadam is contained, but should we attack Iraq, he's more likely to us his weapons. It sounds to me like he's taking the containment approach rather than the President's preemptive approach.

How could the containment approach not include the poliferation of WMD in Iraq?

34 posted on 10/08/2002 2:35:11 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: wingnuts'nbolts
So the Iraqi blackmail of the US and Western Nations begins with if you invade us we will unleash bio terror. And the Senate cowers in fear.

...as the poliferation of WMD in Iraq continues.

35 posted on 10/08/2002 2:37:29 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: frmrda
The Philadelphia Inquirer front page yesterday was about democrats supporting the resolution because Bush has a "gun to their heads" and quoted especially offensive talk by congressman Wexler that he and the others will vote for it but hate doing it, but they have no choice. Really disgusting.
36 posted on 10/08/2002 2:43:38 PM PDT by Williams
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To: FreeReign
Byrd's continued disrruption of the vote will surely rebound on the asshole for a lack of control of his people
37 posted on 10/08/2002 2:44:31 PM PDT by The Wizard
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38 posted on 10/08/2002 2:49:16 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: MrB
Actually, it's "hanged". I don't want to know about the other meaning at all.

Hmmm... Methinks you're right. On both counts.

39 posted on 10/08/2002 3:13:39 PM PDT by EternalHope
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To: VaBthang4
Obviously the esteemed Senator from West Virginia knows when it's time to don the white sheets and funny hat of leadership. You go, Bob!
40 posted on 10/08/2002 3:22:05 PM PDT by coramdeo
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