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Carr trial: Survivor describes sexual attacks by armed intruders [Wichita Massacre]
The Topeka Capital-Journal/AP ^ | 10/08/02 | Roxana Hegeman

Posted on 10/09/2002 4:03:50 AM PDT by KS Flyover

Carr trial: Survivor describes sexual attacks by armed intruders

By Roxana Hegeman - The Associated Press
11:45 p.m. 10/8/2002

WICHITA -- Her voice steady, the sole survivor of a quadruple homicide graphically described for jurors Tuesday the sexual attacks she and her four friends endured the last night they spent together.

Defendants Reginald and Jonathan Carr stared at the woman as she recounted in detail how the five friends were forced by armed intruders to have sex while the intruders watched, and how she herself was raped.

The Carr brothers are on trial in Sedgwick County District Court charged with 113 criminal acts, including capital murder, stemming from a series of crimes in Wichita in December 2000. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.

In the most notorious of the crimes, the brothers are accused of abducting five people from a Wichita home the night of Dec. 14, 2000, forcing them to withdraw money from automated teller machines and shooting them in a soccer field early the next morning. Killed were Aaron Sander, 29; Heather Muller, 25; Brad Heyka, 27; and Jason Befort, 26.

The survivor -- then a 25-year-old fifth-grade teacher -- testified Tuesday she had graded papers the afternoon of Dec. 14 before taking her pet schnauzer and heading to the townhome that Befort, her boyfriend, shared with the two other men.

Befort, a junior varsity basketball coach at Augusta High School, was still at practice when she arrived, but his roommates were home, and Befort and Muller arrived later.

The woman testified she watched "ER" and made Befort a sandwich before the two of them went to bed for the night. He shut off the lights and locked the doors before going to bed at 10:45 p.m.

Sometime after 11 p.m., the woman testified, they heard Sander talking to someone at the front door, and a man burst into the bedroom moments later. A second armed man brought Sander into the room and gathered the other occupants into the room.

The survivor said the sexual attacks began with the men forcing the two women to perform sexual acts while they watched.

She told how each person was taken to an ATM to withdraw cash while the other intruder stayed behind, forcing the others at gunpoint to engage in sex with each other.

She was raped by the first intruder, she testified, and was taken by the second man to the ATM. When he asked if she had enjoyed it, she said yes, hoping to appease him. In answer to his question, she testified, she told him she had never had sex with a black man before.

He nicknamed her "Shorty" and told her it was too bad they didn't meet in other circumstances because she was cute and they would probably have gone out, she testified.

"I asked him if he was going to shoot us. He said no. I asked him again and I think I said, 'Do you promise?' And he said, 'Yeah, I am not going to shoot you,'" she testified.

Back at the house, she was put in the closet with her other friends and told them what he had told her.

"I told Brad, Jason and Aaron 'I think we are going to be OK. I asked him and he said he was not going to shoot us,"' she said.

But that changed later that evening just before the second intruder raped her, too.

"He said, 'Don't worry, I am not going to shoot you yet,'" the woman testified.

Her testimony resumes this morning.

The Carrs also are accused in the Dec. 11, 2000, shooting of Ann Walenta, 55, who later died. The case also includes a Dec. 7, 2000 robbery where Andrew Schreiber was abducted and forced to withdraw cash from an ATM.

In earlier testimony Tuesday, a nurse practitioner who examined the sole survivor of a quadruple murder described in graphic detail for jurors Tuesday how she collected evidence of the woman's sexual assault.

Debbie Wendt, the sexual assault examiner, told jurors the woman was very intent to give her information about what happened to her and was intent they collect whatever evidence necessary.

"She made several statements like, 'I don't want you to forget about this, please write this down,'" Wendt said, adding the woman was very willing to tell her story and tell where there might have been evidence on her body.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: kansas; wichita; wichitamassacre
For detais about the murders see: The Wichita Massacre

TRIAL THREADS:
Wichita to revisit brutal slayings as testimony begins - 10/07/2002
Deputy recalls moment of discovering bodies [Wichita Murders] - 10/07/2002
Legal wrangling opens Carr trial [Wichita Murders] - 10/08/2002
WICHITA MASSACRE TRIAL UNDERWAY - 10/08/2002


1 posted on 10/09/2002 4:03:50 AM PDT by KS Flyover
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To: TroutStalker; alfa6; mjaneangels@aolcom; carlo3b; dennisw; Judith Anne; AK2KX; sheik yerbouty; ...
"Wichita Massacre" murder trial "Ping List".

Please let me know if you want on (or off) this list.

2 posted on 10/09/2002 4:04:21 AM PDT by KS Flyover
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To: KS Flyover
Did you see this covered on Shep Smith's show on Fox News Channel in the last couple of days?

Probably more coverage in that one item than the sum total of all lamestream media to date.
3 posted on 10/09/2002 4:20:48 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: FreedomPoster
I sure did. FOX News seems to be the only news network with a reporter on the scene.

They had reports form the courthouse all day yesterday.

4 posted on 10/09/2002 4:27:18 AM PDT by KS Flyover
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To: KS Flyover
I feel for the victim's and their families, but gotta git this offa mah chest. We never know how we will react under circumstances like these. I imagine that you would *hope* the perps would get their kicks, then leave. It seems like this would be all you're left with in a society of defenseless victims.

In the same situation, I would have to assume that we are all as good as dead, and if I give my life for the others, so be it. I think I'd rather die than suffer an indignity like this. As I say, begin with the assumption you're dead anyway, and go from there. Better to take a perp with you than die pleading.

5 posted on 10/09/2002 5:40:40 AM PDT by banjo joe
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To: KS Flyover
There is much that could be added here, however, in this PC age, the truth would not be tolerated even here on FR, as it would be deemed racist etc.
6 posted on 10/09/2002 5:51:32 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: KS Flyover
Where is the "Mainstream Media" and "Mainstream Broadcasters" on this. James Byrd was rode for months after the fact. This case has hardly been mentioned. Have the "Mainstream Voices of America" become RACIST along with being politically motivated or do they really realize what they are doing and have a secret agenda?Folks there are a lot of facts kept from the American public, plus most so called professional occupations have hidden motives and agendas. It is hard to tell the truth in America any longer and there are very few outlets that can be trusted.
7 posted on 10/09/2002 6:40:48 AM PDT by gunnedah
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To: cynicom
Being quite only gives aid to the perps and to the press. America should be outraged with the media in this and the Dirkhising case. What they do is deplorable and inhuman!
I wonder when these people are going to start directing their vengence at those in control rather than the ordinary citizen. The very people that drive this is are always apared and the meek and innocent pay.
8 posted on 10/09/2002 6:48:29 AM PDT by gunnedah
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To: KS Flyover
Thanks again for the ping

Say, do you or anyone else here know Drudge's e-mail address? He said he was going to do his best to cover this story. I figured I could e-mail this to him.
9 posted on 10/09/2002 7:10:21 AM PDT by republicman
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To: republicman
Sure, it's drudge@drudgereport.com
10 posted on 10/09/2002 7:20:40 AM PDT by KS Flyover
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To: gunnedah
They reach for any lame excuse in order to maintain their delusions of moral superiority as "little white gods."
11 posted on 10/09/2002 7:25:07 AM PDT by junta
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To: KS Flyover
bump...spent many a weekend in Wichita with my grandparents...
Hard to believe such a terrible thing happened there.
12 posted on 10/09/2002 8:55:00 AM PDT by VOA
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To: KS Flyover
Please add me to your ping list.

I will aggressively pass on what I hear from your list to quite a number of non-freeps.

13 posted on 10/09/2002 10:25:22 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: KS Flyover
Thanks for adding me.

I really hope these two fry. I might even drive down to be there when they announce the verdict.
14 posted on 10/09/2002 10:36:34 AM PDT by axel f
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To: KS Flyover
I have followed this story since I first read about it at Front Page. (Thank G-d for Horowitz!) I would like to follow this story until I see the limp bodies of these savages hanging from a noose. (I know, I know...the needle. They deserve to suffer, however.) Please add me to your 'ping' list...thanks!



15 posted on 10/09/2002 10:43:44 AM PDT by who knows what evil?
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To: KS Flyover
Please add me to your ping list. Thanks!
16 posted on 10/09/2002 10:54:48 AM PDT by the-gooroo
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To: KS Flyover
Nothing to see here, move along BUMP! fsf
17 posted on 10/09/2002 11:03:38 AM PDT by Free State Four
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To: KS Flyover
My God, what a nightmare this woman endured.
18 posted on 10/09/2002 11:15:13 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker
this woman is a hero, rather than be a victim she's become an avenging angel.
19 posted on 10/09/2002 12:56:01 PM PDT by contessa machiaveli
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To: contessa machiaveli
Indeed. She must have great strength to confront those animals.
20 posted on 10/09/2002 12:59:20 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: axel f
Is this the one with black perps and and white victims? Funny how this isn't considered a hate crime.
21 posted on 10/09/2002 1:11:00 PM PDT by RooRoobird14
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To: gaijin; who knows what evil?; the-gooroo
I got y'all added to the list.
22 posted on 10/09/2002 1:51:18 PM PDT by KS Flyover
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To: RooRoobird14
Yes it is.

I understand where you're coming from, but I'd rather this weren't a "hate crime" case. I don't believe in hate crime legislation, and thankfully our state doesn't have hate crime laws. But I know what you mean.
23 posted on 10/09/2002 2:28:08 PM PDT by axel f
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To: KS Flyover
Why isn't that obnoxious little Commie, Dan Abrams, salivating all over this one on his show?
25 posted on 10/09/2002 5:16:00 PM PDT by Palladin
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To: KS Flyover; Freee-dame; maica; harpseal; Squantos; wardaddy; AAABEST
If this lady had died, the Carr brothers might still be raping and killing.
26 posted on 10/09/2002 5:20:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: KS Flyover
Bump for Bravery.

Thanks KS Flyover for adding me to the list My Wife is a Hutch Native and we are watching with courisity.
27 posted on 10/09/2002 6:35:05 PM PDT by Rightly Biased
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To: KS Flyover
Please add me to "Wichita Massacre" murder trial "Ping List".

Thanks,
Tea.
28 posted on 10/09/2002 8:24:53 PM PDT by Tea.
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To: RooRoobird14
Neither was "Gotta Catch That Train" Colin Ferguson's crimes either were they??....and he stated he wanted to kill white folks.
29 posted on 10/09/2002 9:54:19 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Travis McGee
The unmitigated gall of the media (sans a little from Fox) to cover what was obviously a reverse-racism crime/trial is appalling.
30 posted on 10/09/2002 9:55:37 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: KS Flyover
It just doesn't get much uglier or more dehumanized than this. And I've already heard "commentators" jumping through
hoops to justify the official contention that this was not
"necessarily" a "hate crime". Presumably because the rapists/murderers didn't scream out "HONKY!! WHITE BITCH!!
and the like.
31 posted on 10/09/2002 10:06:04 PM PDT by willyboyishere
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To: KS Flyover
Sometime after 11 p.m., the woman testified, they heard Sander talking to someone at the front door, and a man burst into the bedroom moments later.

Maybe I'm too cautious, but if I go to the door late at night I have a .357 magnum in my hand behind my back. I don't unlock the deadbolt until I know who's out there. If the person at the door means to do me harm he had better be quick about it, because a 158 grain solid from a .357 will go through the door and whoever is on the other side.

Too bad that poor Sander didn't have a gun at hand on that awful night.

32 posted on 10/09/2002 10:22:51 PM PDT by epow
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To: Travis McGee
Sick SOB's ........Hang em ! Friggin animals.......

Stay Safe , Armed and CYA TM !

33 posted on 10/09/2002 10:35:30 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: Squantos; wardaddy
Too damn bad they didn't knock on our doors.
34 posted on 10/09/2002 11:11:47 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
Maybe I'm too cautious, but if I go to the door late at night I have a .357 magnum in my hand behind my back.

Right.

When the Mexicans whose car just broke down (no, I'm not making an ethnic slur, it happens repeatedly out here) knock on the door late at night, my wife answers the door. Meanwhile, I've crept out the *back* door and am standing out in the pool of darkness behind their backs with a loaded .45. (Don't worry, white people get the same treatment).

This incident sounds like a home invasion, though (and most places don't have the convenience of a back door and a pool of darkness). Incidents like this have convinced me that there must be a loaded firearm concealed but accessable in the house at all times. Closet hangers, book safes, fake wall panels, etc. etc. are all good options.

You will not have time to get the gun-grabber-mandated safe open - in fact, you won't even have time to get to the safe...

35 posted on 10/10/2002 12:01:22 AM PDT by fire_eye
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To: fire_eye
A box of stiff steak knives is also a good investment, because they can be left "hidden at hand" around your house, garage etc for the unexpected.
36 posted on 10/10/2002 12:17:31 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
Now that is a grin I'm gonna have a hard time removing.... I laughed when I read that and my 3 pups are laying here thinking I've lost it.... :o)

Stay Safe TM ....

37 posted on 10/10/2002 12:23:12 AM PDT by Squantos
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To: Travis McGee; Squantos; wardaddy; KS Flyover
Too damn bad they didn't knock on our doors.

They'd be treated to the disappearing head trick.

I'm not sure why but this story really crawls under one's skin.

KS, I've never in nearly 5 years been asked to be put on a ping list but can you add me to this one? I just have to see these guys put down.

38 posted on 10/10/2002 5:49:07 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: AAABEST
Got you on it, AAABEST.

This mornings thread is here:
Woman testifies that Carrs killed her friends in a soccer field [Wichita Massacre Day 3]

39 posted on 10/10/2002 5:52:45 AM PDT by KS Flyover
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To: FreedomPoster
Do we need to ask why this trial is not covered by court TV?

No.

The defendants are black.
40 posted on 10/10/2002 5:55:20 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: KS Flyover
My nephew was invited to be a roommate in this house.
This could have been a lot more personal for me.
As it is, this is an outrage. Can anyone verify that these savages had priors and were let out early by a liberal judge? That's what I had heard.
41 posted on 10/10/2002 6:01:52 AM PDT by MrB
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To: Travis McGee
These criminals had a lot of thug fantasies from all the rap records and videos they saw. They made it all into reality.
42 posted on 10/10/2002 6:12:10 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: MrB
This archived thread has some background on the Carr's priors:

Killing Suspect Just Out of Jail

43 posted on 10/10/2002 6:13:52 AM PDT by KS Flyover
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To: KS Flyover
I didn't see this on Fox & don't know anything about this case, but it seems that my #1 rule would apply. DON'T OPEN THE DOOR TO STRANGERS!
44 posted on 10/10/2002 6:23:43 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: dennisw
These criminals had a lot of thug fantasies from all the rap records and videos they saw. They made it all into reality.

About 10 years ago in the city where I live there was a story about teenage boys who kept track of girls they had sex with and assigned point totals to various sex acts.

Since these boys where white and sexual harassment was at that time still gaining steam, this story attracted national attention. But the one part of the story that was left out of the news was the most horrifing to the white feminists, whites acting like blacks.

The boys had formed a club or gang, called the Spur Posse. After the San Antonio Spurs basketball team. They had gotten the idea of the points system from some recent arrivals at their High School.

The school system voluntarily intergrated their own district and so they sent hundreds of blacks to the white suburbs. And this particular bunch of white lowlifes sucked up all they could learn about how to be a thug. It seems it is perfectly normal for some black guys to have sex with the same girl while the others watch.

A football player with the Raiders and two of his friends are accused of rape by a woman. The main evidence is a video tape taken by the guys of the encounter. What good is a gand bang without video?

But I digress, back to our story.

Of course the media, most of whom probably kept track of their sexual affairs for future memoir publication, cried about how could this happen in the white suburbs of all places. Snicker, Snicker.

Since we know men and women are equal, only the boys were prosecuted for taking advantage of the equal, but also poor and helpless, though eager and willing, girls.

And the first President these kids would be able to vote for would be none other than Bill Clinton.

45 posted on 10/10/2002 10:45:14 PM PDT by CW_Conservative
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To: CW_Conservative
Spur Posse gets a lot of results on google. I remember this bunch from a long article in The New Yorker I think. How this part of SoCal had a lot of families working for defense contractors. Very good jobs and nice houses but their kids were running amuck..... pretty much with the parent's approval. The girls became whores and the guys pimps.
46 posted on 10/11/2002 2:45:55 AM PDT by dennisw
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