Posted on 10/09/2002 8:58:50 AM PDT by B. A. Conservative
That means voting for Nixon, McCain, Duke, Ryan and a lot of other really fine politicions. Congratulations.
After Americans have had a belly full of Democrats, maybe Republicans will figure out how to regain conservative voters before the United States goes broke. Voting for Republicans in empty suits is analogous to Jews shedding their clothes before marching to the showers.
It is amazing to me how many Republican shills are willing to shun freedom and accept the status quo. And the blindness of Freepers who cannot see the trends in place and the inevitable conclusions of those trends in bankruptcy is equally amazing and frightening.
I may have to admit my error that I may have misjudged the entire situation. The facts, conclusions and the strategy are correct. But it maybe that too many Americans are too under educated and too corrupted. My conclusion that the country is salvageable and that the Constitution can be recovered is now very much in doubt based on the first 25 or so replies. The extraordinary superficiality reflected in their replies is frightening.
The disintegration of the American way of life and the destruction of freedom that will follow will be a painful thing to watch. And the destruction of wealth that has been ongoing in markets around the world and that will continue until the markets are fairly valued again will pale in comparison to the US wealth that is going to be destroyed as politicians become desparate to keep the Social Security ship afloat by attempting to fund the titanic unfunded liabilities as they begin maturing.
Voting Republican without a committment from Republicans to the Contract with Congress may keep Republicans in office. But without an agenda for change, no change will be dared until it is too late to matter. When you put your head in the sand, the worst that will happen is that someone may cut your throat. At best you will be showing your a$$. And because your mind is buried, the thoughts that emerge will be little more than hot air.
This thread contains the seeds needed to defeat Democrats and change the United States in a meaningful way. If Republicans win without the Contract with Congress, there will not be any meaningful change and the outcome of the battle for our Constitutional Republic will be very much in doubt. Those among you who believe moderate or liberal Republicans (RINO's) will make any substantive difference in the course of the United States are bordering on delusional. I have every expectation that Republicans must defeat Democrats with ballots won with a conservative agenda, or the day will come where bullets are the only means of recourse.
Democrats led by Senator Byrd had adopted many of the arguements of the so called conservative constitutionalist. They do so in order to split the republican party.
I find many of the constitutionalist views to be not conservative at all, but to be liberal in every way.(although not socialist in nature)
To be liberal is to be for provacative changes in the way we govern ourselves. That is the definition. A true conservative will protect the status quo and resist change. This you are not, and therefore are not truly conservative.
Frankly, I am not sure what label fits. Conservatism circa 1800 perhaps, but not now. I view your views as anti-everything except personal freedoms that were lost many years ago. (ie: drugs for the most part) I donot see how reverting to anarchy is at all a conservative value.
If I could, I would hand you a copy of The Little Engine that Could. The attribute that I like about children's books is that they often illustrate values that adults frequently forget exist.
Other than that, I hope that everything is going well for you ; )
In Massachusetts, we'd be better off if the Republican Party disbanded, and the Democrats aligned into two groups...fiscally somewhat conservative vs. totally nutty about spending.
Mitt Romney is no better; he ignored the convention in his preference for Lieutenant Governor. I most probably won't vote for him, unless he finds a way to get Kerry Healey off the ticket and Jim Rappaport on.
Spot on. The former are in great attendance here.
I will vote straight Republican without hesitation.
That means voting for Nixon, McCain, Duke, Ryan and a lot of other really fine politicions. Congratulations.
Besides trolling people who vote Republican and trashing all Republican politicians, you have anything else to say?
Or are you just BA Conservative's RAH-RAH boy?
In a situation like this, it is hard for a principled conservative voter to choose whether or not to vote for the RINO who doesn't deserve the job and add to the probability of a Democrat winning, or vote for the Libertarian in the hope that this will give a loud signal to the Republican Party in Illinois to become more conservative and less big government.
I never did either of those things. I listed the Republicans I trashed, you may defend them if you wish.
I have even voted for Republicans on occasion. But not blindly as some here have expressed as a preference. I would crawl across burning coals to vote for Ron Paul or anyone like him.
As for the poster who started this thread, I don't remember ever reading anything by him/her before today.
Thank you for not voting Republican. It would sicken me to think you and I voted for the same candidates.
LOL!! You don't know me and just assume apparently that I'm some sort of 'drugs for all' libertarian. Yes I am anti-WOD at the national level, but not at the state level.
And Democrats were not 'led' by Robert Byrd to anything to adopt anything. Some of our most ardent 'Republicans' in the South were former Democrats. Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond come to mind. And if you apparently find constitutionalist views to not be 'conservative' enough, I suggest you pick up and move. This nation of sovereign states was established on said document and every right or power not guaranteed to the federal government(now national) belongs to the states and in some instances the people.
To be liberal is to be for provacative changes in the way we govern ourselves. That is the definition. A true conservative will protect the status quo and resist change. This you are not, and therefore are not truly conservative
This is a joke right? To want to return to the values and style of government before 1860 is liberal? And to maintain status quo within the socialist empire is conservative? You like Social Security? High taxes? National government control at the local level? Public education? You must because to keep those would be maintaining the 'status quo'. And BTW, every one of those a true conservative would have a problem with
Try to follow the entire conversation before you put your foot in your mouth. You probably will anyway, but at least you will have an understanding of why you look the fool.
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