Posted on 10/13/2002 9:58:20 AM PDT by HAL9000
He could have said anything, he did not even have to mention Islam.
But claiming that Islam is a religion of peace is just shows how misinformed most Americans are.
Never say never. Americans don't yet have the stomach for what is required but, two things:
1) Things will get worse here and throughout the West soon and, as my father was fond of saying, desperate times call for desperate measures.
2) Because we have become a nation/socoety of cowardly, PC leftists, doesn't mean the entire world has. India, for example, may well just exterminate Pakistan completely and do us the favor of exterminating Afghanistan while they're at it. Israel may well exterminate the Palsetinians and who is to say where a stray warhead might go?
There are still people with stomachs in America too. The trick is to avoid catching them when they begin to do America's dirty work for the rest of us.
You might be safe in Malaysia, but I wouldn't be in Jakarta or Bangkok now.
Heck, if worse comes to worse you can catch that boat out of Mersing and go out to Tioman.
187 dead: Australia's wake-up call
By IRWIN FIRDAUS in Bali
14oct02
THE fatal bombing of a Bali nightclub has delivered the evils of terrorism to our doorstep, Prime Minister John Howard warned yesterday.
At least 187 people were dead, including a "significant" number of Australians, while another 300 suffered horrific injuries.
The famed Sari nightspot in Bali's party district was packed with Australian holidaymakers when a car bomb exploded about 11pm on Saturday.
It is the first time terrorists have directly targeted Australians since the September 11 attacks in the US and could be the nation's greatest loss of life overseas during peacetime.
Describing the attacks as "cowardly" and "barbaric", Mr Howard said Australians must realise that our country was not immune from the dangers of terrorism.
"People should get out of their minds that it can't happen here; it can, and it has happened to our own on our doorstep," he said.
Seven Australians were confirmed dead last night but the death toll is expected to climb much higher.
Hospital staff in Bali said many of the bodies were charred beyond recognition and were difficult to identify.
"We must prepare ourselves for the possibility of a significant number of Australian deaths amongst the fatalities," Mr Howard added.
The attack, in which at least two South Australians are feared dead, has sparked an urgent security review of Australian government offices overseas.
Two separate blasts went off just as nightclubs in the famous Kuta district were filling about 11pm – a smaller one, and then a few seconds later a huge explosion that left a 1.5m-deep crater in the road in front of the popular Sari Club at Kuta Beach.
The bars were packed with Australians, many of them footballers from NSW, Victoria, South Australia and Western Australia on end-of-season tours.
In other developments:
INCLUDED in the missing are two people from the Sturt Football Club, a trainer and a Reserves player, seven from a Perth football club and three from a NSW rugby team. Sturt player Julian Burton is in hospital suffering from burns and other injuries.
THE South Australian Government chartered two Lear jets with seven specialist medical critical care staff to help treat the injured.
A MEETING of the national security committee of Cabinet will be held today.
TWO RAAF Hercules aircraft with specialist medical teams were sent from Sydney to Bali to help treat the victims and to evacuate the injured to Australia.
QANTAS also scheduled extra flights into Bali to help evacuate any Australians wanting to leave the island. The first two flights were due in Sydney early this morning.
INDONESIAN President Megawati Sukarnoputri said the bomb blasts were a warning that terrorism was a threat to the country's security.
Witnesses described horrific scenes immediately after the explosion, with body parts scattered across the site and on the roofs of surrounding buildings.
"There are charred and mangled bodies everywhere, it is unbelievable," said French photographer Cyril Terrien.
Bloodied survivors fled the bar, some with limbs blown off.
Cars and motorbikes on the road in front were alight, forming a wall of flames blocking people's escape.
The first bomb blast ignited a huge blaze that collapsed the flimsy roof structure, trapping hundreds of revellers inside.
"I saw people on fire," said Richard Hechnier, 29, of Perth.
"Many people were carrying others. Most were bleeding. Everything was on fire. It was chaos. It was dark except for the flames."
He later returned to the club to help rescue workers.
"There were bodies all over the floor of the bar. So many bodies were just black mounds, some were red," Mr Hechnier said.
The blasts came three days after the US State Department issued a worldwide alert for terror attacks and highlighted fears by the US and others that Indonesia – the most populous Muslim nation – was becoming a haven for terrorists and active al-Qaeda operatives.
No one claimed responsibility but Foreign Minister Alexander Downer pointed to the extremist Jemaah Islamiyah movement.
"Jemaah Islamiyah – JI as it's known – does have links to al-Qaeda, it has financial as well as personnel links to al-Qaeda, and it's conceivable that an organisation like that could be behind this action," he said.
Australian tourist Rachael Hughes, 18, had just arrived in Kuta when the blast smashed her hotel room window.
"In the foyer of the Bounty Hotel people were just walking in, blood dripping off them, burns to their face, skin coming off them," she said.
Australian tourists have been told to cancel all plans or bookings for travel to Bali.
In September, the US Embassy in Jakarta was closed for six days due to what US Ambassador Ralph Boyce called a "credible and specific threat", that he suggested was linked to the al-Qaeda terror network.
Police had no immediate motive for the blasts.
Last month, a hand grenade exploded in a car near a house belonging to the US Embassy in Jakarta, killing the man suspected of handling it.
Actually, I would consider Bangkok and Singapore to be the two safest cities at the moment in SE Asia.
The situation in Malaysia is getting bad as well
Sorry my friend, but I must disagree.
You cannot go after the perps with due process - that is a losing game with these genecidal maniacs. You must make it so painful for the governments who house and look the other way while these maniacs operate so that their governments realize that if they do not go after these maniacs their countries will be bombed back into the stone age. Once their governments realize this they will put an end to this in self interest.
Conversion by the sword is central to Islamic theology. A They decline to censure or display disapproval towards the terrorists, because the terrorists are behaving exactly the way their religion says all Muslims should behave
As far as I'm concerned, any Islamic cleric who gives verbal support to Islamic violence is a co-conspirator and should be executed right along with the actual bombers
Immediately taking over Iraq and "disappearing" Hussein would re-establish a precedent lost when the Islamists took over the American Embassy in Iran all those years ago. They have deluded themselves into thinking we are "soft."
Ppphhht!!
Rome put up with quite a bit from Carthage before finally deciding they'd had enough of Carthage. Do not assume the attitude is buried too deep for it to surface again.
Yes, this condition is very dangerous to American citizens.
Thanks to the Politically Correct BS from the news media and the lawmakers wearing their ridiculous PC attitudes, this nation is in danger of being ruined, and with the blessing of the liberals. These liberals are aiding the terrorists efforts.
It is time to get rid of the PC _bs.
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