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1 posted on 10/13/2002 4:46:04 PM PDT by backhoe
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Bali blast toll reaches 60, more bodies buried under rubble

2 posted on 10/13/2002 4:53:02 PM PDT by backhoe
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Indonesia. Isn't that where Clinton's buddies are from? Some of the ones who gave him huge contributions, and for whom he locked up the Utah coal so that we had to buy all our clean coal from Indonesia? Seems like Indonesia was in the news all the time when der Slickmeister was head dog.
3 posted on 10/13/2002 4:53:57 PM PDT by holyscroller
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Remember, this can come to America...

Before 9-11 there were plenty of signs of things to come yet the public, by and large, ignored them. The attacks on the USS Cole and the embassies in Africa just seemed so far away and raised very few eyebrows here. This attack in Bali should further our resolve. And, in a just world would bring many more nations to our side in this battle. Sadly, it won't.

4 posted on 10/13/2002 4:58:19 PM PDT by Cagey
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Notice the damage to buildings in the area.

5 posted on 10/13/2002 5:00:24 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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From the BBC (bbcnews.com)

In pictures: Holiday island horror
A massive bomb blast on the Indonesian holiday island of Bali has wrecked the Sari Club nightspot in the resort of Kuta, a popular destination for foreign tourists.

The blast's flames and smoke from a distance
The car bomb went off on a busy Saturday night
Flames burn throughout a wide area
The nightclub's thatched roof and wooden walls burst into flames
Survivors at the scene (L) Photo: AFP; Injured on stretcher (R) Photo: AP
Witnesses described a scene of chaos
A foreign tourist looks on as a nearby disco burns
Many of the victims were unsuspecting tourists
A makeshift morgue was set up
A makeshift morgue was set up as bodies were found in the rubble
Indonesian police  guard the blast area
It has been described as Indonesia's worst terrorist attack
Unidentified victim in hospital in Bali
Bali's main hospital was overwhelmed
President Megawati
Indonesian President Megawati visited the victims
Foreign tourists at Denpasar International Airport
Many tourists are waiting to leave Bali as soon as possible

7 posted on 10/13/2002 5:03:17 PM PDT by Mark Felton
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I'd include this article as background:

Muslims in Paradise [Bali]

8 posted on 10/13/2002 5:03:53 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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This was Australia's 9-11.
15 posted on 10/13/2002 5:23:52 PM PDT by Man of the Right
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Gee, the lunatics are slow today:

“USA was behind Bali bombing” said Indonesian Moslem Forum.

17 posted on 10/13/2002 5:36:26 PM PDT by backhoe
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IMPORTANT post, thank you for making this thread Backhoe. It could indeed come to us.
18 posted on 10/13/2002 8:47:14 PM PDT by Libertina
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State Dept. recalls most US government employees from Indonesia - Urges all Americans to leave
AFP via Babelfish translation ^ | October 14, 2002
 
 
read this awesome piece written by FReeper Gary Montana)

What did we (in America) learn from September 11, 2001 and the deaths of 3,000 people. I am tempted to admit: Absolutely nothing.

Among the many unlearned lessons of Day-Which-Will-Live-In-Infamy-II-- the necessity to control our borders, the need for a patriotic renewal and the importance of combating multiculturalism -- the most significant is the nature of Islam. You will note that I do not say militant Islam, or radical Islam, or Islamic extremism or other such weasel words – but Islam, period.

Every one of the hijackers who flew airliners into the World Trade Center and Pentagon were professing and practicing Moslems, as is Osama bin Laden. The Al Qaeda terrorist network, is based in Moslem countries and supported financially by the so called pious Moslem leadership of Saudi Arabia.

The overwhelming majority of Moslem religious authorities who have spoken out on the subject, including those at the main mosque in Mecca and Egypt’s prestigious Al Azar University, either endorse or rationalize acts of terrorism. On a day when Americans were incinerated or buried under tons of rubble, Muslims from Nigeria to Indonesia, celebrated in the streets.

Sept. 11 was one chapter in a 1400-year jihad. Every day, the World Trade Center massacre is reenacted on a smaller scale somewhere in the world. Jewish women and children are burned alive in a bus in Israel. A missionary is beheaded in the Philippines, gunmen shoot up a church in Pakistan (deliberately firing into the prostrate bodies of women trying to shield their children). Ancient monasteries and convents are destroyed in Kosovo. Women are sentenced to death for adultery in Nigeria, Hindus are murdered in the Kashmir. In Denmark, the Muslim community there has put a $30,000 bounty on the heads of Jews and those who support Israel. Nuns are beheaded in Baghdad, Christians in Sudan are forced into slavery, and in Britain, Islam openly states it is going to take over not only the UK, but the whole world -- and the beat goes on.

Genocide in the Sudan, ethnic cleansing in the Balkans, religious persecution in Saudi Arabia, calls for another holocaust in mosques from Mecca to Gaza, the imposition of Islamic law in Nigeria, forced conversions in Indonesia, synagogues burned in France, Jews attacked across Europe – these are everyday events, as Third World and much of the First slowly turns Islamic green.

Sadly our leaders, from President Bush on down, insist on peddling the absurdity that Islam is a religion of peace – a creed of kindness and benevolence tragically and inexplicably corrupted by fanatics.

Why is the leadership of the West reluctant to confront manifest reality? The reason lies partly with our absurd foreign policy. We have declared certain Moslem nations to be our loyal allies – including Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan. We would not want to offend these dear friends by saying something unflattering about their bloody, butcherly, dark ages faith.

Americans are naturally benevolent. Most of us are taught from childhood that is religion is good (and it does not matter which religion). As long as little Johnny believes in God and goodness, it’s inconsequential whether he lights candles, wears a skull cap to services or prays in the direction of Mecca.

This works with every religion except Islam.

Consider the following: Of the three major western religions: one was started by a lawgiver who helped to free slaves; one by a man of peace; the last one by a man who loved war and having sex with children. Mohammed not only led men into battle, he enjoyed marrying girls as young as six years old (it is in the Koran). The essence of his message is sick and disgusting. A holy war where you slaughter your enemies, while at the same time encouraging followers to have sex with the children they capture (as he did) for the glory of Allah. He even advised his followers to negotiate false peace treaties in order to lull their enemies.

For almost 1,400 years, that has been the reality of Islam. Within a century after the death of Mohammed, Islam spread throughout the Middle East and across North Africa. It overran the Iberian peninsula and was finally stopped in southern France. It spread eastward as far as the southern Philippines. It was not propagated by fresh-faced young men knocking on doors and announcing: “Hello. I’m from your local mosque. Have you considered the Koran?” It was and is spread by force – conversion by the sword or death. This is still in practice today.

Some will respond that all religions go through periods of violence, usually in their infancy. Christianity had its crusades and Inquisition, its forced conversions and expulsions. The evil committed in the name of Christ happened centuries ago. The evil committed in the name of the Prophet is going on now, as you read these words. Of 22 conflicts in the Third World, 20 involve Moslems versus someone else. Coincidence? In his brilliant book, “Clash of Cultures and the Remaking of World Order,” Samuel Huntington speaks of Islam’s “bloody borders.”

There is no Methodist Jihad, no Jewish Hasidic holy warriors, no Buddhist monk wanting to have 72 virgins waiting for him after a suicide bombing, no Hindu Holy men plotting to blow up people, no Southern Baptist suicide bombers, no Mormon elders preaching the annihilation of members of other faiths.

Islam is a warrior religion – the perfect vessel for fanatics, the violence-prone, the envious and haters of all stripes. This is one reason why Islam is making so many converts among the peaceable denizens of our prison system.

Still, much of the West is addicted to a fairy-tale version of Islam. Christian and Jewish clergy fall all over themselves to have interfaith services with imams. Representatives of Moslem groups are invited to the White House. The president signs a Ramadan declaration. In California, public schools ask children to role-play at being Moslems. Our universities take carefully selected verses from the Koran and present them as the essence of the faith. All that’s needed is a Moslem character on “Sesame Street.” Look – it’s the Jihad Monster!

This perspective engenders a fatally false sense of security. Imagine, in 1940, Winston Churchill taking to the airwaves to announce “Nazism is an ideology of peace which, regrettably, has been perverted by a few fanatics like Hitler and Goebbels. But most storm troopers and SS men are fine follows – your friends and neighbors.”

For the first thousand years of its history – from the death of Mohammad to the 17th. century decline of the Ottoman empire, Islam was an expansionist force. For the next 300 years, as the West rose to preeminence, Islam receded. For the past four decades – fueled by Arab oil wealth, a surplus population in the Middle East, the waning of the West and the rise of more virulent strains of the faith (Shiism, Wahhabism, Sunni fundamentalism) – Islam is expanding once more.

Due to Moslem immigration and aggressive proselytizing, Islam is being exported to the West. Moslem populations are burgeoning throughout Western Europe. (In southern France, there are more mosques than churches.) In Judeo-Christian America, Islam is the fastest growing religion. It is also spreading down the coast of West Africa, through the Balkans (after Serbia, Macedonia is the next target) and up from Mindanao in the Philippines.

Wherever it comes, Islam brings its delightful customs – child marriages, female circumcisions, rabid hatred toward Christians, Hindus, Jews, Buddhists and every other non-muslim, terrorism and support for terrorism and a virulent intolerance of other faiths.

Am I suggesting we declare war on over 1 billion million Moslems? The question is moot – Islam has declared war on the rest of the human race. When one side knows it’s at war and the other thinks peace and brotherhood prevail, guess who wins?

Ultimately, it is not about Jews in Israel, or Orthodox Serbs in Kosovo, or Hindus in Kashmir, Buddhists in Thailand, or Maronite Catholics in Lebanon, Taoists in China, or Christians in Sudan and Nigeria, but all of us. As Ben Franklin would have it – Either we will hang together, or surely we shall all hang separately.

34 posted on 10/13/02 11:11 PM Central by GaryMontana


21 posted on 10/14/2002 1:18:25 AM PDT by backhoe
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Experts fear attack is first of many (AFTERMATH OF BALI ALERT)

25 posted on 10/14/2002 3:18:15 AM PDT by backhoe
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Bali Attack Hits Personally: Jake Young Missing
The Omaha World Herald via ^ | 10/14/02 | Matt Kelley OWH Bureau
More news for those interested


27 posted on 10/14/2002 3:53:28 AM PDT by backhoe
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British death toll rises (BALI UPDATE)

28 posted on 10/14/2002 6:23:56 AM PDT by backhoe
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Indonesia: The enemy within

29 posted on 10/14/2002 6:38:26 AM PDT by backhoe
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U.S. Debates al Qaeda's Role As Bali Death Toll Nears 200

30 posted on 10/14/2002 7:39:47 AM PDT by backhoe
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Indonesian terror groups want to establish Islamic Caliphate in South East Asia
Rediff ^ | Oct 14, 2002 | B Raman
 
 
 
 
Indonesia: The enemy within
Asia Times Online ^ | October, 15, 2002 | Bill Guerin
 
 
Why the Muslims Misjudged Us
city journal ^ | Winter 2002 | Victor Davis Hanson
"The way to reduce terrorism is to kill the terrorisms and to make the heads of Arab governments fear us more than they fear the terrorists or their own street. Appeasement didn't work..."
 
 

31 posted on 10/14/2002 9:33:19 AM PDT by backhoe
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Warning of Threats in Indonesia Left Off Travel Advisory (Bali, Australia)

32 posted on 10/14/2002 1:38:58 PM PDT by backhoe
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U.S. Intelligence: Bali Attack 'Sophisticated'

33 posted on 10/14/2002 5:03:31 PM PDT by backhoe
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The Bali Difference

34 posted on 10/15/2002 1:33:43 AM PDT by backhoe
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Piers Akerman: Atrocity must not go unpunished (VIEW FROM AUSTRALIA)

35 posted on 10/15/2002 3:08:06 AM PDT by backhoe
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