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Zogby Goes Liberal In Florida Race
Rushlimbaugh.com ^ | October 15, 2002 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 10/15/2002 5:29:26 PM PDT by Darling Lili

The pre-election polls for governor in Florida are tightening, according to John Zogby. Jeb Bush has a 48-45 lead over Bill McBride, who narrowly edged out Janet El Reño in the Democrat primary, thanks to, again, a screwed-up Election Day in Broward, Miami-Dade, and Palm Beach counties.

John Zogby Now, folks, Terry McAuliffe was on the Today Show Tuesday, and he revealed that Bill McBride's finance chairman is his father-in-law. That's an interesting little tidbit, which really shows you how incestuous the Democratic Party has become. I, frankly, don't believe this latest Zogby poll.

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To: Darling Lili
Take Zogby seriously. He has the inside information on how much voter fraud there is going to be, and he factors that into his poll results.
41 posted on 10/15/2002 7:16:31 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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On Hannity last night DICK Morris was quoting all the Zogby polls...he said, that any incumbant that isn't 50% by now, will probably lose on election day.....he gave the Rats..Ark and NJ while the Repubs would pick up Mo...
42 posted on 10/15/2002 7:19:43 PM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: AAABEST
Another.
43 posted on 10/15/2002 7:20:00 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Illbay
I don't agree that the voter fraud in 2000 was enough to give Gore 500,000 more votes

Daley was the campaign chairman for this very reason. They knew well in advance this was the only way they could "win."

I've run across a lot info and here is a summary of what they did in 2000:

"In Madison, Wisconsin, homeless shelters with 20 beds had 200 people vote," In Wisconsin, you can just show up at the polls on election day and vote without being registered by saying that you have just moved into the precinct.
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In some predominantly Democratic precincts in Texas, 125 percent of registered voters cast ballots."
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Democrat precincts in Philadelphia, PA, where 110% of registered voters voted.
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The voter-fraud task force will also examine allegations that the Department of Defense shut down mail call for U.S. military vessels on overseas deployment two weeks before the election, to prevent absentee ballots from being delivered to U.S. Navy personnel or returned by them to their home districts.
Sam Wright, a retired U.S. Navy captain and lawyer who advocates a major overhaul of the military voting system, believes that 200,000 members of the military and their family get systematically disenfranchised.
"That's based on the survey that DoD does after every presidential election," said Wright. "I am now coming to believe that the 200,000 figure is a gross understatement. The DoD survey only shows what military members know."
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In Baltimore, Chicago and Los Angeles, allegations are surfacing of roving bands of voters who were taken in buses from precinct to precinct to vote in place of registered voters who had moved away or who had never voted before.
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A major Democrat supporter spent $200,000 for people to go to homeless shelters and haunts and it is on videotape them paying people with cigarettes to get in the car and go vote for Gore. Paying for votes is illegal.
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At Wisconsin student precinct, also on videotape are students taking multiple ballots from a chaotic poll and bringing them back later to put in ballot box. A poll of 1,000 students at Marquette University found 174 students who said they voted more than once, 95 voted both by absentee ballots from their home state and also in Wisconsin. Forty-one said they voted twice in Wisconsin, 25 said they voted three times in Wisconsin and 13 said they voted four or more times in Wisconsin.
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Democrats obtained absentee ballots for people in mental institutions in New Jersey and had them vote for their candidates. Parents of one patient are outraged at manipulation of their schizophrenic daughter.
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The Pensacola News Journal reports an absentee ballot diversion scheme in Florida, uncovered by the son of a federal judge. Two ballots -- thought to have been lost -- turned up to be counted, but the signatures were forged.
*************************************************** About 200 known cases of people voting both in Florida and New York, [is now up to over 700 known cases.]
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About 500 known cases of felons voting in Florida in a couple counties, with statewide projections around 5000.
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Reports that 5000 noncitizen Haitians voted in Miami-Dade county.
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In Oregon, where all the ballots were mailed in, a survey indicates that 36,000 of the 1,500,000 ballots were signed by someone other than the registered voter. In this state's Presidential race Gore "won" by about 6000 votes.
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The motor voter rules (known officially as the National Voter Registration Act of 1993) went into effect in January 1995, and required states to allow anyone applying for a drivers license to register to vote at the same time. The problem, admitted board of election officials in several Maryland counties, is that no proof of citizenship is required, thus inviting non-citizens to vote by fraud. About the only way the county or state board of election discovers that a non-citizen has made the voter rolls is when they are called for jury duty.
Montgomery County Jury Commissioner Nancy Galvin said her office sends out 10,000 to 12,000 questionnaires every other month to prospective jurors, asking whether they are U.S. citizens. Non-citizens are not allowed to sit on juries. "We've had many of them returned asking to be excused from jury duty because they are not U.S. citizens," she said. However, she said her office "keeps no records" of these replies, and takes no further action.
"In 1996, 11 percent of the people voting in Maryland were non-citizens," believes Maryland Republican activist and statistician Henry C. Marshall who has done a comprehensive analysis of new registrations. Out of the 1,793,991 votes officially cast, that amounted to 197,339 illegal votes.
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WND reports that legal aliens (noncitizens) living in California and Washington received letters and voting documents urging them to vote -- mailed by the Democratic Party and signed by President Bill Clinton Reports of same voter cards going to Haitian noncitizens in Florida also. Edward Nelson, president of U.S. Border Control, believes that the national average for non-citizen voting is about 2-4 percent.
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In the U.S. if you have dual citizenship in another country you cannot vote here if you have voted in the other country. There are many people with dual Israeli-U.S. citizenship and with dual Mexico-U.S. citizenship and it is unknown how many of these voted in the election of Prime Minister Barak a couple years ago or in the election between current Presidente Fox or the PRI party candidate in the recent Mexican election and then also voted here this year.
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Missouri judge ordered St. Louis Democrat precincts polls to remain open for 3 1/2 hours after rest of state's polls closed. They didn't even close after another judge overruled and told them to close. In these precincts the voter turnout was 90% and provided the margin that took the Senate seat from the incumbent Senator and gave it to a dead man and made sure Gebhardt got reelected.
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Palm Beach County elections website (www.pbcelections.org). a Bush supporter discovered 143 precincts in this county where Al Gore received more than 100% of the registered Democrat votes. In those same districts, Bush received an average of around 60% of the registered Republican votes. How can this be possible?
A statistical analysis by Robert Cook, PE, a nuclear engineer with an MS in statistical quality control, purports to show that it wasn't stupid people in Palm Beach County that were responsible for the large number of double-punched ballots.
Rather, he says, "Statistical evidence establishes beyond reasonable doubt that 19,120 presidential race ballots were destroyed by deliberate double-punching ballots in Palm Beach County, FL with a 'second punch' for Al Gore or Pat Buchanan." If you line up a stack of ballots and run a steel probe through the Gore holes, then the Gore votes remain Gore votes, the no votes become Gore votes, and all other votes are invalidated due to double punching.
Cook's analysis "uses simplified but wide-ranging statistical comparisons to establish beyond doubt that Democratic operatives 'stole' by double-punching ballots approximately 15,000 Bush votes in Palm Beach County; and approximately 3,400 additional Buchanan votes."
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News item: Irving Slosberg of Palm Beach pulled a Votomatic mechanism from his car and handed it over to police.
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Claims that 5,832 more votes were tallied in Baltimore City than there were voters who checked in at precincts or cast absentee ballots. They found that keys to voting machines had been duplicated, and that some people had voted more than once. They traced the addresses listed by scores of Baltimore City voters to boarded-up houses and to vacant lots.
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To rig voting machines in New York and Louisiana you only need pliers, a screwdriver, a cigarette lighter and a Q-tip.
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Long time Democrat and Pollster Pat Caddell said on MSNBC: "But I have to tell you, at this point it's hard not to believe that my party, which is the party I've belonged to since my great, great grandfather in my family, has become no longer a party of great principle -- but has been hijacked by a confederacy of gangsters who need to take power by whatever means and whatever canard they can say."
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MY OPINION: This is the tip of the iceberg.

44 posted on 10/15/2002 7:27:09 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: Darling Lili
Interesting that Tampa local channel 8, and the Tribune did a poll yesterday of seven Tampa Bay counties, and Bush leads by 49% to 42 %, with 9 % undecided. By the way the Tampa Bay is McBrides base!
45 posted on 10/15/2002 7:28:38 PM PDT by BOOTSTICK
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To: Nayt2
jeb! is going to win. are any of you freepers in the orlando area?

I am!
In fact, I just got back from being an audience member in the Keller(R) vs. Diaz(D) debate for Congress on WESH (NBC). Keller won this debate hands down and Diaz came across as the fool!

46 posted on 10/15/2002 7:30:22 PM PDT by inflorida
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To: patriciaruth
Do you have a link to the Texas info regarding the voting percentage. I remember it being mentioned somewhere but can't remember where I saw it.... Some small county down in the valley with like only a 100 or so registered voters, if I remember correctly.
47 posted on 10/15/2002 7:36:41 PM PDT by deport
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To: Illbay
And now in South Dakota the Democrats are registering people who don't exist, send in multiple absentee ballots for these nonexistent people, and fade away after the election.
This was probably going on nationwide in 2000.

Link to article on voter registration fraud in South Dakota

48 posted on 10/15/2002 7:39:51 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: deport
This was the article it came from. I don't know if this task force ever really got off the ground with the politics of the closeness in the House and Senate and the desire of the Bush administration not to spiral into an impeachment type hearing that would play badly in the liberal press.
I hearing this year about a Democrat bill for helping voters get their vote counted failed temporarily because they refused to put in measures by Republicans that countered voter fraud.

By Kenneth R. Timmerman
2000 Western Journalism Center

House Speaker Dennis J. Hastert is putting together a task force to investigate allegations of voter fraud in the November 7 election that will be nationwide in scope and will "put people in jail," according to a top member of the epublican leadership.

Hastert initially asked outgoing Judiciary Committee Chairman Henry Hyde, R-Ill, to chair the task force, but Hyde says he turned it down. ...

Republicans will be looking at allegations of voter fraud from across the country, not just in Florida. .....

In some predominantly Democratic precincts in Texas, we had 125 percent of registered voters cast ballots." ...

49 posted on 10/15/2002 7:51:48 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: patriciaruth
thanks...... I see they were referring to precincts and I was looking for counties.... my bad. It would be interesting to see which precincts they were.... maybe more will surface at some time on this.
50 posted on 10/15/2002 8:01:23 PM PDT by deport
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To: wildbill
Perhaps democratic voter fraud was worth about 5% in 2000, and that wasn't factored into any of the polls, except Zogby's....
51 posted on 10/15/2002 8:39:15 PM PDT by stickywillie
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To: Illbay
Link to article about fraudulent absentee ballots starting to show up in South Dakota
52 posted on 10/15/2002 8:46:59 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: katherineisgreat
GO JEB!!
53 posted on 10/15/2002 8:57:11 PM PDT by mafree
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To: Illbay
And although I don't agree that the voter fraud in 2000 was enough to give Gore 500,000 more votes--the margin of the popular vote victory he enjoyed over Bush--the fact remains that voter fraud was both staggering and largely ignored or downplayed by the media.

BELIEVE IT. Philadelphia had over 90% voter turnout. There is probably at least 200,000 bad votes there. Is there a Pennsylvania Freeper that has some hard numbers on the turnout in Philadelphia verses the rest of the state?

54 posted on 10/15/2002 8:59:52 PM PDT by cpdiii
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To: deport
Has anyone created a master thread on this topic?

It would need to point to the official military documents and government election stats. Where does one gather the raw data for registered party voters by precinct right before and after an election?

55 posted on 10/15/2002 9:08:28 PM PDT by Diplomat
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To: cpdiii
No it didn't. I have the spreadsheet. Its turnout was about the same as the state, and there was no discernable pattern between black ghetto precincts and white precincts within the city. This is just one of those urban legends running around to comfort paranoid Pubbies that they really win elections when they really lose them. Sorry about that.
56 posted on 10/15/2002 9:10:42 PM PDT by Torie
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To: patriciaruth
My questions were supposed to be directed at you.
57 posted on 10/15/2002 9:15:12 PM PDT by Diplomat
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To: Diplomat
In California, the Registrar of Voters is the one who has the data.
58 posted on 10/15/2002 9:23:48 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: patriciaruth
Perhaps I'll do a search for it. I doubt it is internet ready, this being CA and all. Which brings us back to, can't we get this info from the Republicans and the dims? Are they not running the polls? Shouldn't they be able to provide the quantitative data to substantiate your claims?

What about getting the registered voter tally before Nov. 5 for each precinct?

59 posted on 10/15/2002 9:32:59 PM PDT by Diplomat
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To: Torie
My apology for repeating urban legend. Thanks for setting
the record straight. That is the reason I asked for a
Freeper that had the numbers.
60 posted on 10/15/2002 9:37:45 PM PDT by cpdiii
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