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Mark Steyn: They want to kill us all
The Spectator (U.K.) ^ | 10/19/2002 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 10/17/2002 8:13:55 AM PDT by Pokey78

Forget the ‘root causes’, says Mark Steyn. The massacre in Bali was part of the continuing Islamofascist war against the West, and those who ignore it are sleepwalking to national suicide

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An appeaser, said Churchill, feeds the crocodile in the hope that it will eat him last. But sometimes the croc eats him first anyway. For months, the US, Britain and Canada had warned the Indonesian government about terrorists operating within its borders. So had Singapore and Malaysia. President Megawati’s administration responded by calling Washington anti-Muslim. The American ambassador was publicly denounced by her vice-president. Hassan Wirayuda, the foreign minister, said in February that the outside world’s fears of Islamic terrorism in Indonesia were overblown and that in Jakarta ‘we laugh at it’. Ha-ha. From government contacts to police indifference, the administration’s strategy was to deny the crocodile existed and then quietly slip him the à la carte menu.

Now, Indonesian stocks are down, the rupiah’s in the toilet, the national carrier’s flying empty, and the official tourism websites have switched to continuously updated info on dead tourists, safe in the knowledge that they’re unlikely to be getting any new bookings from live ones. ‘We’re finished,’ says the chairman of the Indonesian Chamber of Commerce. The members of the Maroubra Lions Rugby League Club, who visited Bali at this time every year, won’t be back. On Saturday night after dinner, the blokes agreed to babysit while the wives went out dancing. They didn’t return. On Monday, Craig Salvatori put his two young daughters back on the plane to Sydney and told reporters he had to stay to ‘look for mummy’. He found her in the morgue a couple of hours later, so badly burned she was identifiable only by her jewellery. But not to worry, Mr Wirayuda: if the Western partygoers are fleeing, the high-rolling Islamofascists are here to stay. On Monday, for the first time, Mrs Megawati’s government conceded that al-Qa’eda are operating inside the country.

The slaughter of hundreds is, relative to population, an Australian 9/11, with the same heart-rending details of people clawing desperately through the rubble in search of husbands, wives, children. When Osama’s boys hit the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the root-cause crowd, after some pro forma regret about the loss of life, could barely conceal their admiration for the exquisite symbolism of the targets, the glittering monuments to American militarism and capitalism. The New Statesman dismissed the victims as Wall Street types who made the mistake of voting for Bush rather than Ralph Nader.

If you had to pick anywhere on the planet where Bush voters are thin on the ground, Bali’s hard to beat. Lots of Aussie beach bums, Scandinavian backpackers, German stoners, braying English public-school types taking a year off to find themselves, but not many registered Republicans. This mass murder was clearly going to be harder to excuse, but the root-causers gamely rose to the occasion. The Sydney Morning Herald’s Margo Kingston fretted over ‘whether we’ve respected and nurtured the place we love to visit or colonised it with our wants.... Maybe part of it is the lack of services for locals. A completely inadequate hospital, for instance, so graphically exposed in the aftermath of the horror. Some people — foreigners like us, elite big-city Indonesians — make their fortunes. Have residents lost their place, their power to define it? Did the big money fail to give enough back to the people who belong there, whose home it is?’, etc., etc. Well, if the insensitivity of Western tourism is the root cause, Margo can relax: it’s not gonna be a problem any more. Whether or not, as Margo would say, poverty breeds terrorism, in Indonesia last weekend’s terrorism will certainly breed poverty.

While we’re singing the old favourites, here’s Bruce Haigh with a timeless classic. Mr Haigh was an Australian diplomat in Indonesia, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, and he’s in no doubt as to why hundreds of his compatriots were blown up in Bali. As he told Australia’s Nine Network, ‘The root cause of this issue has been America’s backing of Israel on Palestine.’ You don’t say. It may well be true that, for certain Muslims ‘frustrated’ by Washington’s support for Israeli ‘intransigence’, blowing up Australians in Bali makes perfect sense. But, if even this most elastic of root causes can be stretched halfway around the globe to a place conspicuously lacking either Jews or Americans, then clearly it can apply to anyone or anything: my advice to Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness is to put down the Omagh bombing as an understandable reaction to decades of frustration at Washington’s indulgence of the Zionist oppression of the Palestinian people. As the likes of Mr Haigh demonstrate every day, the more you insist the Islamist psychosis is a rational phenomenon to be accommodated, the more you risk sounding just as nutty as the terrorists.

On which subject, the Independent’s Robert Fisk thinks the Aussies were targeted for a more specific reason — blowback for being too cosy with the Great Satan: ‘The French have already paid a price for their initial support for Mr Bush. The killing of 11 French submarine technicians in Karachi has been followed by the suicide attack on the French oil tanker Limburg off the coast of Yemen. Now, it seems, it is the turn of Australia....’ And don’t worry, there are plenty of others who’ll be getting theirs any day now. Just in case al-Qa’eda had missed one or two, Fisk helpfully provides a useful list of legitimate targets: ‘Belgium, which hosts Nato HQ; Canada, whose special forces have also been operating in Afghanistan; Ireland, which allows US military aircraft to refuel at Shannon...’. Blessings be upon you, Mister Robert, we had entirely forgot to add ‘Kill the Irish’ to our ‘To Do’ list.

I wonder if it was a cautious editor who added ‘initial’ to that French ‘support for Mr Bush’. The French were supportive for about ten minutes after 11 September, but for most of the last year have been famously and publicly non-supportive: throughout the spring, their foreign minister, M. Védrine, was deploring American ‘simplisme’ on a daily basis. The French veto is still Saddam’s best shot at torpedoing any meaningful UN action on Iraq. If you were to pick only one Western nation not to blow up the oil tankers of, the French would be it.

But they got blown up anyway. And afterwards a spokesman for the Islamic Army of Aden said, ‘We would have preferred to hit a US frigate, but no problem because they are all infidels.’

No problem. They are all infidels.

Unlike Mr Fisk, I don’t have decades of expertise in the finer points of Islamic culture, so when people make certain statements and their acts conform to those statements I tend to take them at their word. As Hussein Massawi, former leader of Hezbollah, neatly put it, ‘We are not fighting so that you will offer us something. We are fighting to eliminate you.’ The first choice of Islamists is to kill Americans and Jews, or best of all an American Jew — like Daniel Pearl, the late Wall Street Journal reporter. Failing that, they’re happy to kill Australians, Britons, Canadians, Swedes, Germans, as they did in Bali. We are all infidels.

Back in February, Fisk wrote a column headlined ‘Please Release My Friend Daniel Pearl’. It followed a familiar line: please release Daniel, then you’ll be able to tell your story, get your message out. Taking him hostage is ‘an own goal of the worst kind’, as it ensures he won’t be able to get your message out, the message being — Fisky presumed — ‘the suffering of tens of thousands of Afghan refugees’, ‘the plight of Pakistan’s millions of poor’, etc. Somehow the apologists keep missing the point: the story did get out; Pearl’s severed head is the message. That’s why they filmed the decapitation, released it on video, circulated it through the bazaars and madrasas and distributed it worldwide via the Internet. The message got out very effectively.

It’s the same with Bali. As a way of making a point about Zionist occupation of the West Bank, it’s a little convoluted, to say the least. If it’s intended to warn America’s allies off supporting Bush, it seems perverse and self-defeating to kill and maim large numbers of citizens from countries who haven’t supported him. So, instead of trying to fit square pegs into Islamic crescents, why not take the event at face value? It’s a mound of dead Australians and Scandinavians and the non-Islamic Indonesians of Bali: no problem, they’re all infidels. A Bush-voting social conservative from Mississippi or a gay peacenik from Denmark, they’re happy to kill both. If, as some of us maintain, the real ‘root cause’ of Islamofascism is Islam’s difficulty coexisting with modernity, we shouldn’t be surprised that an infidel-friendly, pluralist enclave in the world’s largest Muslim country would be an abomination to the Islamists, and the perfect target.

In many ways, the sanest Muslims in the world today are those of South Asia. In the Middle East, they’re mired in their own long-standing and mostly self-inflicted psychosis. In Europe, they’ve stood traditional immigration patterns on their head: the Continent’s young Muslims are less assimilated than their parents and grandparents; instead of becoming more European, they’re becoming more Islamist. So the challenge now is for the Wahhabists to co-opt the Asian Muslims as they have the Arab and European. They’ve had some success. Lee Kuan Yew has spoken of the change in Singapore’s Muslims in recent decades: once relatively integrated, they now keep themselves to themselves, are stricter in their observances than they’ve ever been, and dress their womenfolk more severely. They’ve embarked on the same process observers have spotted from the Balkans to Pakistan: the radicalisation of traditional Muslim communities. If Islamofascists were to gain control of Indonesia, it wouldn’t be a parochial, self-absorbed dictatorship like Suharto’s, but a launch-pad for an Islamic superstate in the region.

The easiest way to understand is, again, to take them at their word. Bassam Tibi, a Muslim professor at Göttingen University in Germany, gave an interesting speech a few months after 11 September: ‘Both sides should acknowledge candidly that although they might use identical terms these mean different things to each of them,’ he said. ‘The word “peace”, for example, implies to a Muslim the extension of the Dar al-Islam — or “House of Islam” — to the entire world. This is completely different from the Enlightenment concept of eternal peace that dominates Western thought.’ Only when the entire world is a Dar al-Islam will it be a Dar a-Salam, or ‘House of Peace’. The objective isn’t a self-governing Palestine but the death of the West.

On the face of it, that sounds crazy. But look at the gains they’ve made in the last quarter-century, since they overthrew America’s closest ally in the Muslim world and established the first radical Islamic Republic in Iran. In the Middle East, Islamism has proved far more successful and exportable than Nasserite socialism ever was. It’s brilliantly opportunist, slyly spotting the openings in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Pakistan, the Philippines, Chechnya, and now Indonesia. In the West, it’s been able to rely on cultural squeamishness to advance its presence, ever since British police stood idly by while Muslim groups marched through the streets inciting their followers to murder Salman Rushdie. With the benefit of hindsight, Rushdie’s boneheaded buddies in the literary world made a huge mistake in opposing the ‘fatwa’ on the grounds of the primacy of artistic freedom rather than as a defence of Western pluralism. Everyone was more naive back then.

But we shouldn’t be now. As I said a few weeks ago, it’s not a clash between civilisations but within them — in the Muslim world, between what’s left of moderate traditional Islam and an extreme strain of that faith that even many of their co-religionists have difficulty living with; and in the West between those who think this culture is worth defending and those who’d rather sleepwalk to national suicide while mumbling bromides about whether Western hedonism is to blame for ‘lack of services for locals’ in Bali. To read Robert Fisk and Margo Kingston is like watching a panto cast on drugs: No matter how often the baddies say, ‘I’m behind you!’, Robert and Margo reply, ‘Oh, no, you’re not!’

I began with a Churchill quote, so let me end with one: ‘Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened.’ That’s what happened after 11 September: the brief glimpse of the reality of the Islamist scheme was too much, and so we dusted ourselves off and retreated back to all the illusions, like the Oslo ‘peace process’. That can’t save us, and it certainly can’t save Indonesia. And until we’re prepared to identify the enemy and confront him as such, there will be more nights like last Saturday night, and more little girls like the Salvatoris’, orphaned because their mum and her friends went dancing.


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1 posted on 10/17/2002 8:13:56 AM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; deport; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; JohnHuang2; ...
Pinging the Steyn list.
2 posted on 10/17/2002 8:14:55 AM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
Islamofascist

I have adopted this word into my regular usage. I wonder, did Steyn coin this term?

3 posted on 10/17/2002 8:26:15 AM PDT by Huck
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To: Pokey78
I have yet to see Mark Steyn miss his target. But that's not his only claim to fame. He uses your own mental processes to reach and convince you. The full significance of what he's writing about comes upon you from behind, like a storm riding a high wind, and then overwhelms you with its eloquence and the power of your own sudden realization. He's a master.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
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4 posted on 10/17/2002 8:26:52 AM PDT by fporretto
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To: Pokey78
I was having Steyn withdrawls.

As usual, this one is a keeper.

Thanks for the Ping Pokey.

Cheers,

knews hound

5 posted on 10/17/2002 8:27:36 AM PDT by knews_hound
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To: smaug6
Read this column.
6 posted on 10/17/2002 8:28:50 AM PDT by 91B
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To: Pokey78
Mark Steyn is brilliant, This article says it all
7 posted on 10/17/2002 8:29:08 AM PDT by MJY1288
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To: Pokey78
Well, if the insensitivity of Western tourism is the root cause, Margo can relax: it’s not gonna be a problem any more.

He is so good. Still reading...

9 posted on 10/17/2002 8:31:52 AM PDT by Huck
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To: Pokey78
‘Both sides should acknowledge candidly that although they might use identical terms these mean different things to each of them,’ he said. ‘The word “peace”, for example, implies to a Muslim the extension of the Dar al-Islam — or “House of Islam” — to the entire world. This is completely different from the Enlightenment concept of eternal peace that dominates Western thought.’ Only when the entire world is a Dar al-Islam will it be a Dar a-Salam, or ‘House of Peace’. The objective isn’t a self-governing Palestine but the death of the West.

I wonder how long it's going to take for more people to understand this? It's apparent that the western thought process is much different from that of the moslem. How many more of us have to die before that's realized?

Thanks for posting this important article, Pokey.

10 posted on 10/17/2002 8:33:50 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Pokey78
As Western culture becomes more degenerate, more moderate Muslims look at it and choose to go back to stricter observance. The Muslim women who are taking on the veil again -- after their mothers threw it off -- are doing it deliberately.

I'm not defending the Islamists. They are terrible. And you can't ignore the fact that Arabs and other Muslims have a pathological hatred of Jews.

But I am saying that the degeneration of Western culture is hurrying up the process of radicalizing Islam. Especially in Europe, where the gay lobby runs everything. A Muslim woman takes a look at what is going on around her and thinks, I'd rather spend my life wearing a veil than have my sons turn out queer and my daughter behaving like sluts.
11 posted on 10/17/2002 8:33:53 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: Motherbear
Bush needs to read this....I love our prez, but get tired of the pc mantra, "It's a religion of peace." Religion of peace....yeah, right.

Ari reinforced this "Islam is a religion of peace" mantra at yesterday's press conference in response to a question from Les Kinsolving. I just wanted to beat my head against a wall. New York? Washington? Bali? Will someone PLEASE wake up?



12 posted on 10/17/2002 8:37:59 AM PDT by who knows what evil?
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To: Pokey78
Pokey:

We on the Steyn Ping List...SALUTE YOU!!

Many thanks, as ever, for these gems...

13 posted on 10/17/2002 8:41:29 AM PDT by Airborne Longhorn
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To: knews_hound
Steyn bump
14 posted on 10/17/2002 8:42:22 AM PDT by Guillermo
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To: shaggy eel
Great column from Mark Steyn.



15 posted on 10/17/2002 8:43:06 AM PDT by who knows what evil?
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To: Pokey78
The future, unless something drastically changes: ‘We would have preferred to hit a US [substitute what you like here], but no problem because they are all infidels.'


16 posted on 10/17/2002 8:43:51 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Pokey78
Thanks Pokey.

Steyn is, as usual, spot on.

17 posted on 10/17/2002 8:46:38 AM PDT by metesky
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To: Pokey78
"As Hussein Massawi, former leader of Hezbollah, neatly put it, ‘We are not fighting so that you will offer us something. We are fighting to eliminate you."

That sums it up very well. People better wake up.
18 posted on 10/17/2002 8:47:26 AM PDT by FeliciaCat
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To: Pokey78
BUMP for the best columnist around
19 posted on 10/17/2002 8:47:35 AM PDT by jodorowsky
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To: Pokey78
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20 posted on 10/17/2002 8:51:56 AM PDT by ffrancone
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To: Huck
He may have. He was certainly using it in even his early post-September 11 columns.
21 posted on 10/17/2002 8:56:07 AM PDT by NovemberCharlie
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To: FrustratedCitizen
YOU MUST READ THIS ping!

Steyn is arguably one of the best columnists out there.
22 posted on 10/17/2002 9:03:22 AM PDT by Hobsonphile
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To: who knows what evil?
I keep hoping, against hope, that the mantra of "Islam is a religion of peace" is the Bush Administration's way of saying "nice doggie" while we look for a big enough rock. . .
23 posted on 10/17/2002 9:03:36 AM PDT by Salgak
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To: Pokey78
Ann Coulter was right about Islam and its leaders.


BUMP

24 posted on 10/17/2002 9:14:34 AM PDT by tm22721
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To: Pokey78
I think their plan is to provoke an all out confrontation, everybody on one side or the other. Hence, attack 'moderate' nations like France etc. to push them off the fence.

Insane? yes, but that's what they are. They think if they can split the world into two like that and start a all or nothing war that their god will give them victory.
25 posted on 10/17/2002 9:15:20 AM PDT by Grig
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To: Pokey78
Thanks for the ping, Pokey ... Steyn has a way of putting things in perspective ... so much so that it is difficult to believe that anyone doesn't get it.
26 posted on 10/17/2002 9:18:18 AM PDT by spodefly
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To: Huck
Islamofascist

I have adopted this word into my regular usage. I wonder, did Steyn coin this term?

I believe it was coined by Christopher Hitchens. Great Steyn column, though.

27 posted on 10/17/2002 9:19:15 AM PDT by jalisco555
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To: Pokey78; Alouette; swarthyguy; backhoe; Yehuda; dennisw
Ping.
28 posted on 10/17/2002 9:19:38 AM PDT by 1bigdictator
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To: lady lawyer
But I am saying that the degeneration of Western culture is hurrying up the process of radicalizing Islam.

Yea... so what. Western culture rules kid.

We didn't clean them out in The Crusades or The Gulf War.

They have to be given a terrible beating... no pity. This is a fight against darkness... a quest no less important than defeating Hitler.

They will nuke us sooner or later. They won't use a sniper next time.

With China and N. Korea puffing their chests, we have plenty to worry about.

29 posted on 10/17/2002 9:21:34 AM PDT by johnny7
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To: Pokey78
"panto cast on drugs"

What's a "panto cast"?

30 posted on 10/17/2002 9:22:53 AM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
A quick Google search showed this is a British abbreviation for "pantomime cast".
31 posted on 10/17/2002 9:25:14 AM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner
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To: Grig
They think if they can split the world into two like that and start a all or nothing war that their god will give them victory.

They are half right. Unfortunately for them, neither of the two sides would be considered pro-Islamifascist.

32 posted on 10/17/2002 9:25:59 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: who knows what evil?
C'mon, we must rally around our Presedente'....remember "the Saudis are our friends".
33 posted on 10/17/2002 9:26:26 AM PDT by taxed2death
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To: Pokey78
Another Steyn keeper!
34 posted on 10/17/2002 9:32:17 AM PDT by PogySailor
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To: jalisco555; Huck
Michael Savage claims he coined the term "islamofascist", but he claims alot of stuff. Anyway, I wonder who was the first to use it?
35 posted on 10/17/2002 9:34:48 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Pokey78
How many times must we hear that "poverty is the root cause of terrorism"? Poverty is not a cause, it's a symptom. The cause of terrorism is bad government which starves and enslaves its citizens.





36 posted on 10/17/2002 9:35:35 AM PDT by kitkat
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
Panto ..... Pantomine?? Makes sense in a 'panto cats' buit not in the context of the sentence. I dunno....
37 posted on 10/17/2002 9:35:51 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Pokey78
Great Steyn as usual. Thanks Pokey!
38 posted on 10/17/2002 9:36:21 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Pokey78
Typical brilliant article from Steyn, but is anyone else here having difficulty linking up to the Spectator website?

39 posted on 10/17/2002 9:36:35 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: johnny7
Western culture rules for now, but the pathologies that are growing within our culture have the potential to destroy us. Westerners are not replacing themselves. Muslims are flooding Europe just so that the aging socialist European population will have a base of workers to support them. The decline of our families is producing ever greater numbers of dysfunctional, anti-social people who are a drain on society, rather than an asset. The Islamics certainly don't have the power now to destroy us. But they may not have to. Eventually, we may destroy ourselves. The Islamics will think that God did it. Who knows?
40 posted on 10/17/2002 9:38:47 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: texasbluebell
For Muslims, the world is divided into two parts. Dar-el-Islam, the house of Islam, and Dar-el-Harb, the house of war. You are either Islamic and in the house of Islam, or you are not Islamic and therefore in the house of War. Any country not Islamic is thus defined as the 'House of War'. They believe this and so should we!
41 posted on 10/17/2002 9:38:50 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Pokey78
This should be the West's message to Islam: Clean your house or will not have a house to clean.
42 posted on 10/17/2002 9:43:54 AM PDT by ZeitgeistSurfer
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To: Pokey78
Thanks-for-the-ping BTTT
43 posted on 10/17/2002 9:46:46 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative
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To: Salgak
I keep hoping, against hope, that the mantra of "Islam is a religion of peace" is the Bush Administration's way of saying "nice doggie" while we look for a big enough rock. . .

I've long suspected that's why they're doing it. They're too smart to believe it. People need to lighten up about that.

44 posted on 10/17/2002 9:47:25 AM PDT by Steve1789
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To: KC_Conspirator
Reminds me of something Martin Scorsese once said about filmmaking: "Everybody steals from everybody".
46 posted on 10/17/2002 9:53:03 AM PDT by jalisco555
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To: Pokey78; Snow Bunny; Alamo-Girl; onyx; Republican Wildcat; Howlin; Fred Mertz; dixiechick2000; ...
Mark Steyn: They want to kill us all

Excerpt:

The slaughter of hundreds is, relative to population, an Australian 9/11, with the same heart-rending details of people clawing desperately through the rubble in search of husbands, wives, children. When Osama’s boys hit the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the root-cause crowd, after some pro forma regret about the loss of life, could barely conceal their admiration for the exquisite symbolism of the targets, the glittering monuments to American militarism and capitalism. The New Statesman dismissed the victims as Wall Street types who made the mistake of voting for Bush rather than Ralph Nader.

If you had to pick anywhere on the planet where Bush voters are thin on the ground, Bali’s hard to beat. Lots of Aussie beach bums, Scandinavian backpackers, German stoners, braying English public-school types taking a year off to find themselves, but not many registered Republicans. This mass murder was clearly going to be harder to excuse, but the root-causers gamely rose to the occasion. The Sydney Morning Herald’s Margo Kingston fretted over ‘whether we’ve respected and nurtured the place we love to visit or colonised it with our wants.... Maybe part of it is the lack of services for locals. A completely inadequate hospital, for instance, so graphically exposed in the aftermath of the horror. Some people — foreigners like us, elite big-city Indonesians — make their fortunes. Have residents lost their place, their power to define it? Did the big money fail to give enough back to the people who belong there, whose home it is?’, etc., etc. Well, if the insensitivity of Western tourism is the root cause, Margo can relax: it’s not gonna be a problem any more. Whether or not, as Margo would say, poverty breeds terrorism, in Indonesia last weekend’s terrorism will certainly breed poverty.

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It’s the same with Bali. As a way of making a point about Zionist occupation of the West Bank, it’s a little convoluted, to say the least. If it’s intended to warn America’s allies off supporting Bush, it seems perverse and self-defeating to kill and maim large numbers of citizens from countries who haven’t supported him. So, instead of trying to fit square pegs into Islamic crescents, why not take the event at face value? It’s a mound of dead Australians and Scandinavians and the non-Islamic Indonesians of Bali: no problem, they’re all infidels. A Bush-voting social conservative from Mississippi or a gay peacenik from Denmark, they’re happy to kill both. If, as some of us maintain, the real ‘root cause’ of Islamofascism is Islam’s difficulty coexisting with modernity, we shouldn’t be surprised that an infidel-friendly, pluralist enclave in the world’s largest Muslim country would be an abomination to the Islamists, and the perfect target.



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47 posted on 10/17/2002 9:54:46 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: Pokey78
Undergirding the brilliant latticework of
Steyn's sparkling comedic accomplishment
is what is now tritely called an "out of the box"
perspective and analysis of world events shared
by no one else in the press, American or otherwise.
George Will, Andrew Sullivan, Michael Kelly, Robert
Novak, Camile Paglia, and Kathleen Parker all have
their occasional insights. Steyn produces them
as the sun produces neutrinos, and displays them
every bit as brilliantly. The man is a treasure.
48 posted on 10/17/2002 9:57:52 AM PDT by gcruse
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But I am saying that the degeneration of Western culture is hurrying up the process of radicalizing Islam.

I suspect that supercilious, vacuous secular humanism is on the Almighty's shit list, behind Communism and Islam.

49 posted on 10/17/2002 10:01:34 AM PDT by TomSmedley
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But I am saying that the degeneration of Western culture is hurrying up the process of radicalizing Islam.

Your honor, it was her short skirt that finally broke down my resistance to raping her.

50 posted on 10/17/2002 10:02:57 AM PDT by Taliesan
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