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WHICH FREEPER HAS THE MOST CORRUPT STATE?
10/18/ 02

Posted on 10/18/2002 4:42:56 PM PDT by Libloather

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To: AndyJackson
This is really unfair.

If there's ever a 'most corrupt region' thread, I'm sure you'll be the first to be notified...

101 posted on 10/18/2002 7:18:05 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
we have hillary, ENOUGH SAID.
102 posted on 10/18/2002 7:21:02 PM PDT by repub32
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To: repub32
...we have hillary...

I could ask - how many times - but that would be pretty tasteless - no?

103 posted on 10/18/2002 7:23:48 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: mombonn
Michigan has to be in the top quartile.

You've got Michigan's corruption whittled down to a quartile? Since Michigan has two separate land masses, shouldn't that be doubled?

104 posted on 10/18/2002 7:32:34 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: MotleyGirl70
Tommy Thompson, I miss you!!!!!

That makes one of us. Our illustrious Sec. of HHS told fast food joints this week that they should provide healthier choices on their menus. Helloooo!!!! They should provide whatever their customers will buy the most of. Their obligation is to their stockholders, not a clueless bureaucrat.

Tommy is also the one who, while calling himself a conservative, continued to spend this state into a hole that it won't easily get out of. Now McCallum is the one who gets to carry the torch of mess clean-up. Talk about hanging your right-hand man out to dry.

Doyle is the dirtiest of all of them in the news right now. He gets his buddies to press charges against all of his political opposition, yet he's going to cruise into the governor's office doing the very same things he's had these guys charged with (using state-paid staff to do campaign work). McCallum better grow a spine but quick and call this @$$hole on the carpet, or you can stick a fork in us - this state is done.

Believe me, Tommy is NOT the answer.

105 posted on 10/18/2002 7:35:46 PM PDT by brewcrew
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To: Libloather
Illinois will see that bet and raise 'ya five....King George (Ryan) is in heap big trouble over the license-for-bribe scandal that occured while he was Secretary of State; one of the truckers who supposedly obtained one of those licenses hit a van and killed 6 kids on King George's coronation - I mean election day. Meanwhile, most of his top guys have already been indicted.

Meanwhile, King George, the bitter old lame duck he is appears to be granting blanket clemency to all the death row inmates in the State because he put a moratorium on Ole Sparky at Statesville. Doesn't matter if they're murderers or not, he's lettin' 'em go.

Our Attorney General, Jim Ryan, hasn't investigated all of this stuff, claiming the Feds are handling it. Oddly enough, his first name is much bigger than his last name on all the campaign billboards.

Lee Daniels, the top Republican in the General Assembly got nailed for using State workers to perform campaign work on State time. Oh, King George has also been caught doing this.

Mike Madigan, the top Democrat, has a microscope up his ying-yang for giving some State money to an old classmate for some State fair project. Oh, and by the way, his daughter is running for Attorney General.

I almost forgot, the Democrat running for Governor, Rod Blagojevich - and this is on tape, swear to God - he did try marijuana, but was quote "so inept at it" that he doesn't know if he inhaled or not.

Any good Illinois Freepers out there tonight, please feel free to add to this if I've missed anything.

106 posted on 10/18/2002 7:37:01 PM PDT by ward_of_the_state
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To: ward_of_the_state; Liz; Howlin
...he did try marijuana, but was quote "so inept at it" that he doesn't know if he inhaled or not.

I'm still laughing...

107 posted on 10/18/2002 7:43:52 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
Uncle Nunzio sez you all vote for New Joyzee... or else...
108 posted on 10/18/2002 7:43:53 PM PDT by NapaCA
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To: Libloather
"The *Crintons supposedly come from Arkansas. They get a head start."

An embarassment doesn't qualify as corruption. Arkansas DID get his *ss out of here. Okay, there is definitely no shortage of Rat corruption here, but they are the minority with a lot of power. Most folks here are good, decent people....and largely conservatives.

109 posted on 10/18/2002 7:45:55 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: dead
LOL! So far, NJ has my vote. That's pretty bad!
110 posted on 10/18/2002 7:48:21 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: teeman8r
Here's another thread you might find amusing. In any case, I am sure you can relate.
111 posted on 10/18/2002 7:49:51 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: Libloather
It's absolutely true! One can't make this kind of stuff up!
112 posted on 10/18/2002 7:50:48 PM PDT by ward_of_the_state
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To: Libloather
You got nothing.

My state has McDermott.

Top that.

113 posted on 10/18/2002 7:50:54 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Libloather
Just Follow the Money. There is a reason that Wisconsin is the third highest taxed state.

There has been a general impression that Wisconsin had reasonably honest, but perhaps many incompetent politicians that liked to spend money.

When political leaders start to cut corners to win at any cost, then with the money and power comes the opportunity for corruption. If the citizens don't exercise their responsibilty to be informed and be involved in their government, then the opportunity for corruption becomes reality.

I have observed what I feel is gross incompetence and possibly corruption in our local government. Yet it has been very difficult and time consuming for a group of citizens to make a positive change and to provide information to the public.

Part of the problem and perhaps it contributes to the low voter turnout is whether citizens really know the "character" of their elected officials. Some tend to vote for "good looking" and "well spoken" individuals rather than understanding their basic honesty and ability to serve the best interests of taxpayers.

Conservatives need to engage in rational discussions (and educate) to help individuals understand our positions. We need to monitor how our elected officials perform and take action in order to keep a relatively clean government for a free society.
114 posted on 10/18/2002 7:53:22 PM PDT by ADSUM
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
And having a dead candidate on the ballot played so well for the Rats in Missouri that Hawaii decided to try it this time around.
115 posted on 10/18/2002 7:53:59 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: #3Fan
North or south, a Rat is still a Rat!
116 posted on 10/18/2002 7:57:09 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: alnick
Impressive.
117 posted on 10/18/2002 7:59:12 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: MainFrame65
Maybe the question should be, "which state has the least corruption?"
118 posted on 10/18/2002 8:00:38 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: dead
LOL. Very funny!
119 posted on 10/18/2002 8:01:51 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: sweetliberty
North or south, a Rat is still a Rat!

True. :^)

120 posted on 10/18/2002 8:03:04 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Libloather
There's no contest here! New Jersey! Have you all forgotten the absolutely brazen, no shame, slap in the face to The Rule of Law, decision given by the NJSC in the case of Torricelli/Forrester?

The rest of you just have to line up for second place.

( This post is a riot! Imagine! Everyone here WANTING to be from "the most corrupt state"!!!! LOLOL!)

121 posted on 10/18/2002 8:03:10 PM PDT by Exit148
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To: 6ppc
How about all those false ads about Riley's taxes? When I hear one I turn the radio off or change the station. Does he really think that we believe that Riley did not pay his taxes for 9 years!!
122 posted on 10/18/2002 8:04:51 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Nachum
Not sure if we are the most corrupt, but it sure stinks....

With "Gay" Davis at the helm, Californicate wins the prize. However, when Bill Simon wins on November 5th, he can change things. For victory & freedom!!!

123 posted on 10/18/2002 8:05:13 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
RHODE ISLAND!!!! check out these links for proof!

http://www.theherald.org/issues/110298/pigs.f.html

http://www.csmonitor.com/durable/2001/05/02/p11s1.htm

http://www.depetro.com/news.htm

124 posted on 10/18/2002 8:57:51 PM PDT by MatthewViti
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
My state has McDermott.

You can keep him. Please?

125 posted on 10/18/2002 9:13:02 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: sweetliberty
An embarassment doesn't qualify as corruption.

Oh, no. You don't get off that easy - unless you know *Crinton personally...

126 posted on 10/18/2002 9:15:30 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
No, but I can honestly claim non-involvement. I didn't move to Arkansas until 2001, so I had nothing to do with it!
127 posted on 10/18/2002 9:19:04 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: smokegenerator
Clinton and Schumer.

You don't need to say anymore - but just in case anyone has any doubts.

In the recent bill to pass the Senate re fighting election fraud by requiring voters to show proper ID - the bill passed 98-2, Clinton and Schumer of NY being the only two Senators to vote against it.

128 posted on 10/18/2002 11:00:18 PM PDT by citizenK
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To: Libloather
Hillary Rodham Clinton. Need I say more?
129 posted on 10/18/2002 11:57:02 PM PDT by Liz
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To: groanup
This Texan has the honor of being represented by Eddie Berniece Johnson, who as chairman of the State Senate Redistricting Committee carved her own Congressional district in the Dallas area, which one journalist likened to a Rohrschach test.

Because of the way she drew her district, it caused surrounding districts to be gerrymandered too. One of them was "contiguous and compact" only at low tide.

130 posted on 10/19/2002 3:17:26 AM PDT by FourteenthProfile
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To: Libloather
Wow. So far Florida remains spotless...

Aside from your voting irregularities?...L~

131 posted on 10/19/2002 4:08:22 AM PDT by Bad~Rodeo
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To: Libloather
Compare this to the Miss USA contest. First, we whittle down the contestants to a list of five semifinalists.

From reading all the posts and consulting other sources, the semi-finalists for systemic corruption over two generations at multiple levels of government are Illinois, Louisiana, Maryland, New Jersey, and Rhode Island. Sorry, you other guys just cannot compare, could compare but only with a single instance instead of multiple examples or long periods of time, or did not make strong enough arguments.

Then, for the final round, each state will be presented with a challenge: to name the single most corrupt elected official at the school-district, municipal, county, state, and federal levels. The Bill Clinton Award for Lifetime Achievement will be presented to that state which garners the majority vote of the judges on three out of five of these categories. Personally, I believe Louisiana is the favorite in this contest.

132 posted on 10/19/2002 4:14:13 AM PDT by FourteenthProfile
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To: Libloather
Here in the Communist state of NY (I live in Upstate, NY), land is being confiscated by the Gov't aka, the Rockefellers, through front groups. These groups are called Open Space Institute and Scenic Hudson both funded by the Rockefellers. All the land is being gobbled up and our taxes are shooting up. Patakifeller has campaign adds that say he has made NY a great state by having Gov't land acquisitions and he has made the air safe to breath and the water safe to drink. He is pathetic.

The sad thing is, most NYers don't even realize what is going on or they do but they are Free loaders off the Gov't.

133 posted on 10/19/2002 4:29:06 AM PDT by rambo316
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To: Libloather; Donald Stone
Maryland definitely takes the prize.
134 posted on 10/19/2002 6:23:43 AM PDT by mssnoop
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To: Bella_Bru
LOL Just what I was thinking!
135 posted on 10/19/2002 6:30:41 AM PDT by ladyinred
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To: sauropod
Maryland and Florida
136 posted on 10/19/2002 6:33:12 AM PDT by Donald Stone
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To: Libloather
You spoke to soon !!!!!
137 posted on 10/19/2002 6:34:54 AM PDT by Donald Stone
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To: Libloather
Wow. I thought "Occupied Pennsylvania" was bad...
138 posted on 10/19/2002 6:41:16 AM PDT by Snowy
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To: MoralSense; Liz; Libloather; Joe Montana; aristeides; mssnoop; Askel5; nunya bidness; glorygirl; ...
Maryland may be in first place !!!!!

http://www.marylandcorruption.com/
139 posted on 10/19/2002 6:43:36 AM PDT by Donald Stone
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To: Libloather
I would say, Washington, DC, though not a state......Next would be anything north of the Mason-Dixon and west of the Rockies.
140 posted on 10/19/2002 6:50:28 AM PDT by CWRWinger
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To: Libloather
I believe Maryland is the worst. Anything that rubs them wrong emotionally gets banned.
141 posted on 10/19/2002 6:53:11 AM PDT by Vision
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To: FourteenthProfile
OK.
First RI wins on length of corruption, dating back to the 1600's where neighboring states ordered their men to shoot on sight.

Second, County? The only purpose for county gumint here is to put the in-laws and nephews who are too incompetent to even watch others do highway pick up. It has no power at all. No juristiction except for dumb relative employment.

City; Mayor Buddy Cianci, twice convicted felon,(one violent, one RICO) will be re-elected in a land slide when he gets out.

His replacement, the gay communist will mess things up so bad the people will probably storm the Bastile to free Buddy to save them. After all, with Buddy, a bribe worth ten percent of the annual salary will get you any job from dog catcher to police captain.

School committee. Ferrel of Cumberland, forces kids in school to wear uniforms, which is really just to dress exactly like her child, the drug dealer truant who keeps getting kicked out of school.Maybe to make it harder to pick him out of the police lineup.

Governor DiPrete, who runs his insurance business from jail and has weekends off.

Senator- The senator from Virginia, Lincoln the Commie Chafee.
Congressman, The boy congressman Patches Lithium Kennedy.

Speaker of the House Hardwood, elected by Mount Hope Cemetary to the most powerful position in the state.
A Clinton clone.
142 posted on 10/19/2002 6:53:44 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Donald Stone
I used to correspond with Peter Mulhern ("Peter from Annapolis," on Rush's show), who wrote for the late, lamented Washington Weekly. He absolutely agreed about Maryland being the cesspool of politics.

Does anybody know where Peter is or what he's doing these days? Is he writing for any publication?

143 posted on 10/19/2002 8:31:01 AM PDT by MoralSense
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To: MoralSense; Joe Montana; mssnoop
I'll ask around and see if anyone knows the whereabouts of Peter.

Does anybody know where Peter is or what he's doing these days? Is he writing for any publication?

144 posted on 10/19/2002 8:37:09 AM PDT by Donald Stone
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To: Libloather
It's NEW JERSEY ! We have the Torch, the crooked State Police chief, no republican Senator in 30 years, all kinds of voter fraud, A liberal-beyond=belief Supreme Court, completely Liberal newspapers, CBS-ABC-CNN etc., . So we win!!!
145 posted on 10/19/2002 8:46:01 AM PDT by BobFromNJ
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To: Libloather
WHICH STATE HAS THE MOST CORRUPT FREEPER?


California wins, hands down.
146 posted on 10/19/2002 8:57:52 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: Libloather
Here in New York, the Dems have controlled the Assembly and the RINOs have controlled the Senate since the early 60s. A cozy relationship exists between the two bodies as each side divides up pork and draws up districts to protect incumbency. We have several cases where RINO State Senators endorse Dem candidates for the State Assembly and vice versa. This has not been helped by the fact that for much of the last century (and on into the current one), New York has been governed by Dem Socialists (Hugh Carey being the only fiscally conservative Dem I can think of) and RINOs (think Tom Dewey, Nelson Rockefeller and George Pataki). Government grows bigger and bigger each year and fights over the budget (this state has NEVER in my lifetime submitted a budget by the deadline) have less to do with the size of it than "who gets what share of the pie." Of course there are NO term limits in New York either.

As far as out and out corruption goes, however, I'd say that New Jersey and Connecticut are far worse than New York. Outside of my area, however, I would say that the Banana Republic of Louisiana takes the cake.

147 posted on 10/19/2002 9:15:39 AM PDT by Clemenza
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To: section9
Deepest Darkest Broward County, Florida.

Ah, Broward. Home of more nudie bars, massage parlors, sleazy nightclubs and glorified housing projects known as condos (Cemetary Village anyone?) per capita than anywhere else in the state. Not to mention that most Broward Cops are rejects from New Jersey who fled said state due to corruption investigations.

You want a cop in Broward? Call the local massage parlor! --- Clemenza, who lived in Palm Beach and Dade, avoiding the County in between.

148 posted on 10/19/2002 9:28:22 AM PDT by Clemenza
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Panama has some lovely ladies though.
149 posted on 10/19/2002 9:28:45 AM PDT by Clemenza
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To: Clemenza
Rhode Island, hands down!
150 posted on 10/19/2002 9:40:19 AM PDT by MatthewViti
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