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Vietnam was a Noble Cause
rocky mountian rattlesnake press | 28oct02 | Darren Morrison

Posted on 10/28/2002 4:47:19 PM PST by RMrattlesnake

Vietnam was a Noble Cause

By Darren Morrison

I have heard for years how the Vietnam war was only political, that we had no business there. Collage professors and aging hippies think they won the day. But they bring discredit to the veterans who fought that war. I want people to know that Vietnam was a noble cause. I want our Vietnam veterans to know that their efforts were not in vain, to shed light on some truth that some tried to put away in darkness; to not only bring healing but honor to those great men and some woman of the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines and Coast Guard and honor to those names on the wall, that they did not die for nothing.

I was very young during the Vietnam war. In fact I was in 2nd grade during the fall of Saigon. But as I grew into a young man I began to hear more and more about the war in Vietnam. I was told by a hool teacher who were more likely of those who shamed our vets, that this was an unjust war. When I was in high school the movie Hair came out. Hair was a movie that glorified the hippies and anti-war movement. To my own discredit that movie had an influence on me. I began to listen to the Beatles and the Grateful Dead and other music of that era. I yearned to be like them and started using drugs and then ran away from home at 17 ending up in Florida and my so called hippie friend left me there as he went on to somewhere else. Well that was a shattering experience and I went back home. I took my headband bandana off and I joined the Army National Guard.

There in the National Guard I was in a unit that had Vietnam and Korean war vets in it at the time. I got to hear some of their stories. Not once did any of them say that their emery was kind. I heard about the dirty warfare these Viet Cong did. I heard real horror stories and it was not anything like the hippie explained. These guys were there. They were in the muck. The hippies were not there. So why were the hippies so concerned with the Viet Cong? Why did they care about the welfare of them but not our boys? They called our guys killers of women and children when the Vietcong were using women and children to kill our boys.

Well nobody ever says that World War Two was in vain. Nobody would dare say how bad it was to kill Nazi’s. We know what that National Socialists did over there don’t we. Some of us have heard how cruel the Japanese were to the Chinese and how they forced thousands of Okinawins over cliffs. We know about the concentration camps. Yes we know how many boys gave it there all on Normandy and Iwo Jima. There is no doubt in any Americans mind that what we did in World War Two was worth it. We helped to rid the world of an evil. Yes World War Two was a noble cause.

Then Korea and Vietnam were noble causes as well. The evil we were fighting over there was even more evil than the national socialist party. This is a more sinister version of Marxism called communism. Korea was both backed and supplied by Red China. Make no mistake we were fighting China over there as well. China was more visible in Korea but their presence was known about in Vietnam as well. In many ways The communist party makes the National Socialist party look like boy scouts. They are just different brands of Marxism applied differently. Communists are ruthless GOD haters. They kill Christians and anyone with a belief in GOD. Just look at Cambodia with Pol-Pot and his killing fields. These were the same tyrants America was fighting in Vietnam.

The Viet Cong killed any one who would not go along with their program. They claimed they were liberating the poor but what they really did was enslave them. You see the poor had no more food on their table after communism than before. Communists are GOD haters so there is no reason for them to tell the truth. The way Viet Cong treated their prisoners was inhuman. Even the Germans and Japanese were not that cruel. They way our boys were treated in North Vietnamese prison camps was cause enough to never trade with that county until that generation is dead. They even kept prisoners long after the war. In fact there is a possibility that there are still POW’s over there to this day.

Viet Cong forced children strapped with explosives to go up to Americans then blow up killing themselves and the American and any one else near the blast. Communists don’t believe in GOD so people are used as cattle. They used woman to fight their battles as well. They would inject their troops with opiates so they could get shot and keep on going. There was no since of humanity among theses tyrants of death.

So if we compare Hitler’s National Socialism to Communism we will find that though Hitler was evil and horrible Communism is even worse. Remember the Tiananmen Square. When the people who communism was supposed to represent stood up for their rights they were killed like vermin. The streets of Tiananmen ran red with blood. If we think that Muslims invested terrorism I say they learned it from the communists. V.I. Lenin said with terror we will win the world to communism. Communism has caused the deaths of 150 million people. What a deadly ideology. The Catholics in there rampages could come close. Muslims have a lot of catching up to do to even come close to the death toll of communism.

After we left Vietnam They started rounding up all the critics of communism; Doctors, Lawyers, and school teachers. Anyone who had spoken out against communism, Chairman Moa or their brutal tactics were sent away for years to re-education camps where they were beaten and tortured having fingers cut off and given very little food. If they survived they were released and given the most menial jobs. Like highly skilled surgeons made to be cab drivers. Then all churches and Buddhist temples were burned to the ground. All bibles and other books of freedom and religion were burned. And you thought the left never burnt books. The poor farmer was now even poorer, because as always redistribution of the wealth is really and always redistribution of poverty.

Vietnam today is not picnic either, even though Bill Clinton has opened it to American trade. Vietnam was virtually living in the "dark-ages." Its state-owned enterprises were losing money, food was rationed, and shoes needed to be rationed. For the Vietnam Communist Party , not enough reform creates social instability that would challenge its legitimacy, but too much reform can do the same. Thus, the Vietnam Communist Party has made, unmade, and remade reforms since the mid-1980s in order to control social instability. Their system of communism never works except for the elite running things there. They want to keep living their life of luxury, just like the pigs in Animal farm. That is what Vietnam is, Animal farm If you have not read that book I encourage you to read it.

That is why Vietnam was a noble cause. They were fighting one of the most evil and dark forces in the world. We had the men and the machines to win that war. But there were too many communists here in the states. We did not lose the war. We were not allowed to slay the evil communist dragon because it’s tail was already here in America.

Yes there were Communists in our government already, despite McCarthy’s efforts. But there were even more communists out in the streets and in the college classrooms. All the major Hippy and Vietnam war protest groups were headed by communists. Yes there were not concerned for the outcome of the war or the innocent civilians but instead for their fallen comrades. I work at Colorado State University and I know for a fact that there are professors here that are hard line Stalinist communists, here in middle America. The 60’s drug culture, hippie movement was a front for communist subversives. Most of the hippies were nothing more than useful idiots for the Marxists who ran things behind the scenes.

So this goes out to all that fought in Vietnam and in Korea. You fought for a good cause and don’t let any one say anything different. Fighting the dirty evil communist is noble


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To: All; breakem; Fred Mertz; Joy Angela; Lexington Green; FreddieKruger; Bob J; Jim Robinson; ...
...What matters to the People of a now Communist Vietnam is...

...what's happening to them there...

...NOW.

...Many leave that cannot stand the persecution, others simply...

...DIE from it.


...Vietnamese Actor DON DUONG...

...is being branded a Traitor to Communist Vietnam...

...simply for portraying a...

...NVA Commander who lost to...

...MEL GIBSON in...

.."WE WERE SOLDIERS"..!!!


...This one man...

...who we here could be awarding...

...and Academy Award / Golden Globe Award to this year for his outstanding portrayal...

...doesn't even know if he's.. even going to be alive then...

...to accept them.


DON DUONG is learning just what the Vietnam War was really all about ...IN PERSON as a resident of HO CHI MINH City.

PRAY 4-DON DUONG.

Signed:..ALOHA RONNIE / Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 / Landing Zone Falcon / http://www.lzxray.com

NEVER FORGET
41 posted on 10/29/2002 10:02:28 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I don't give two sh&ts what's happening there usless there's some MIAs involved.

We projected that they would have voted commie if there had been a vote. Let em wallow in their own sh&t. It shouldn't have been our job to impose freedom on them. They wanted free of colonialism and they kicked the French out. What the hell did we think we would do?

All the things I listed before did more to destablilize us and them than the war did.

If you want to talk about today go ahead, but don't try to glorify the war we should have never fought.

42 posted on 10/29/2002 10:09:11 PM PST by breakem
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To: breakem; JLO; Joy Angela
NEVER FORGET

...A Free People that does not care for the ..-Freedom of the One-..

...will soon witness its ..-Loss by the Many-..!


Just ask Little ELIAN who now sits in a corner of CASTRO's Communist Cuba thanks to Partner of another Communist Terrorist Leader HO CHI MINH ..HILLARY RODHAM... who would be our next Presdent of the United States.

The Enemy is now Within...

and always has been.

IT COULD ALL HAPPEN HERE...

soon.

NEVER FORGET
43 posted on 10/29/2002 10:22:35 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I'm really tearing up with your tyrrany of 1 sermon.

There are fewer countries under communism than anytime since 1946. If you want something serious to worry about other than the poor little boy and some Viets, there are 1.6 billion commies in China and North Korea. Those countries have nuclear weapons and missiles that can reach the US.

If you need to feel the Viet Nam war was worthwhile and honorable, knock yourself out. You really can block out history if you try hard enough. Good night!

44 posted on 10/29/2002 10:29:17 PM PST by breakem
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To: breakem
...History is made by people who were THERE.

...I was THERE.

...Live and learn, my friend for your own sake and your Country's.

...A HLLARY RODHAM who would be President is COUNTING on people like you.

...The War has Come Home.
45 posted on 10/29/2002 10:33:08 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: RMrattlesnake
A major problem (perhaps the main problem) was that the NVA wanted to win much more than the ARVN. (The old you can lead a horse to water routine in action). Perhaps their morale would have been better had they been alongside us in North Vietnam kicking Commie ass.
46 posted on 10/29/2002 10:40:08 PM PST by BnBlFlag
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To: BnBlFlag
NEVER FORGET

...The ARVN were "kicking NVA Ass" until the Enemy Within Democrats who controlled Congress killed off all U.S. funding for its resupply of:

Ammo
Rifles
Aircraft
Aircraft Parts
Helicopters
Helicopter Parts
Artillery
Artillery Shells

...just as the Communist Soviet Union handed over $6 BILLION to Communist North Vietnam for its "Final Solution" in the South.

...The rest IS History.

NEVER FORGET
47 posted on 10/29/2002 11:06:44 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: All; RMrattlesnake
...ADELPHIA Cable TV is now showing RANDALL WALLACE's .."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. starring MEL GIBSON as my Commanding Officer Lt. Col. HAL G. MOORE on it's Pay per View Channels...

...including a FREE copy of the outstanding audio version of the book it is based on...


.."WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE and YOUNG"..


...narrated by its Co-Author JOSEPH L. GALLOWAY, who is now an Advisor to Secretary of State COLIN POWELL.

May I recomend it to all hands...???
48 posted on 10/29/2002 11:14:42 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: All; RMrattlesnake
...DIRECT TV Satellite System is also offering...


.."WE WERE SOLDIERS"..


...on its Premium Channels...

...where your odering one showing...

...ends up giving you unlimited viewing of this outstanding ..'Braveheart in 'Nam.. Motion Picture for the entire day that you ordered it.

ENJOY
49 posted on 10/29/2002 11:19:16 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: Registered
...Please see my ALOHA RONNIE Posts on this important F/R Thread.

ALOHA
50 posted on 10/30/2002 6:09:07 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
You made history, live and learn.............You are a pompous and full-of-yourself aren't you?

You don't know anything about my life. Serious people don't blow their own horns and attack those whom they don't know. Only head cases do that.

As for Hillary. She seems to count on those who can't think for themselves and follow blindly. In the case of Viet Nam, that seems to apply more to you than me.

If you need to be patted on the back and tucked into bed over and over for what you did, then you should look at your self.

I made my historical factual arguement earlier and you continue to reply on emotiuonal pap.

51 posted on 10/30/2002 11:24:08 AM PST by breakem
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
You made history, live and learn.............You are a pompous and full-of-yourself aren't you?

You don't know anything about my life. Serious people don't blow their own horns and attack those whom they don't know. Only head cases do that.

As for Hillary. She seems to count on those who can't think for themselves and follow blindly. In the case of Viet Nam, that seems to apply more to you than me.

If you need to be patted on the back and tucked into bed over and over for what you did, then you should look at your self.

I made my historical factual arguement earlier and you continue to reply on emotiuonal pap.

52 posted on 10/30/2002 11:24:44 AM PST by breakem
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Vietnam was a noble cause - and telling the truth to the younger generations is a noble cause, as well. We will not let the left do to today's troops and our nation what they did to you and our nation w/ Vietnam. Bless you, Ronnie.

Excerpts from Stolen Valor: How the Vietnam Generation Was Robbed of its Heros and its History by B.G. Burkett & Glenna Whitley :

Part I - Rambo and the Bogus War Heroes
Part II - Welcome Home, Babykiller
Part III - Will the Real Vietnam Vet Stand Up?
Part VI - The VVA - The Vietnam Victims of America

53 posted on 10/30/2002 3:12:40 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Vietnam was a noble cause - and telling the truth to the younger generations is a noble cause, as well. We will not let the left do to today's troops and our nation what they did to you and our nation w/ Vietnam. Bless you, Ronnie.

Excerpts from Stolen Valor: How the Vietnam Generation Was Robbed of its Heros and its History by B.G. Burkett & Glenna Whitley :

Part I - Rambo and the Bogus War Heroes
Part II - Welcome Home, Babykiller
Part III - Will the Real Vietnam Vet Stand Up?
Part VI - The VVA - The Vietnam Victims of America

54 posted on 10/30/2002 3:12:55 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: breakem; sport; Ragtime Cowgirl; Joy Angela; Alamo-Girl; Fred Mertz; JLO; FreddieKruger; ...
ALOHA 2-breakem

...Since the Biblical Interpretation of the word MEEK is defined as .."Being OPEN -&- TEACHABLE".. in telling us that...

.."The MEEK shall inherit the Earth"..

...shall we do some comparing here...?


...The real invasion of Vietnam began when a convoluted French Communism invaded HO CHI MINH's head when he was a College Student in the Paris, France of the 1920's.

...Upon his return to Vietnam Communist Leader HO CHI MINH spread his vile stuff throughout the Indo-China Peninsula of S.E. Asia by bringing insurgent leaders from Cambodia and Laos to Hanoi, Communist North Vietnam ..to personally train them in his convoluted version of Communism ...which then quickly spread throughout Indo-China.

...This eventually led to the KILLING FIELDS of Cambodia by Communists who just loved to kill with impunity.

...I will NEVER FORGET witnessing in person in Los Angeles a fleeing Madam "Dragon Lady" NGU DIEM threatening JFK in a 1993 TV News Conference with asassination for asasinating her husband President DIEM in South Vietnam just before I was to enter the U.S. Army with Vietnam in my own future. One month later JFK WAS assassinated.

...Communism was the 1st Invader of Vietnam and it still invades.

...Just ask .."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. Vietnamese Actor DON DUONG who is awaiting his undeserved punishment for being declared a TRAITOR to Communism in a formerly Free Saigon.

...Sharing here my GOD-given life experiences that He brought me to ..and then through for a reason ..serves to bring a perspective to what we as Americans are all dealing with now.

...Since I personally witnessed the time when College students HILLARY RODHAM -&- BILL CLINTON were working hard in partnership with HO CHI MINH for his Communist Victory over Freedom in South Vietnam upon my return from the Vietnam War...

...I share here real alarm now that HILLARY RODHAM is pushing just as hard for her own Victory over US in Election Year 2004.

The phrase .."GIVE ME LIBERTY or GIVE ME DEATH".. comes to mind.


And what is your committment to here..?

ALOHA RONNIE
55 posted on 10/30/2002 8:15:22 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
re Post 55...Beautiful words!

56 posted on 10/30/2002 8:40:29 PM PST by Joy Angela
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To: Joy Angela
...Columnist MICHELLE MALKIN...

...who was the 1st to break the story of the Liberal Seattle INS Office releasing the young D.C. sniper to his own recog recently and expressed her righteous outrage about it all over the Nation's Media last week...

...will be continuing her educating of our country on today's ..JUDICIAL WATCH Report.. Radio Show hosted by JANE CHASTAIN -&- RUSS VERNEY Live online on...


.. http://www.JudicialWatch.org ..


...@10:06am Pacific Time / 1:06pm Eastern Time.

...The JUDICIAL WATCH Report also airs Tape-Delayed in So. California @ 11:06pm tonight on...

...KPLS 830 AM ..'Radio on the Right'..




MICHELLE MALKIN has also been following our.."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. Story about Battle of IA DRANG-1965 - Sept. 11th Hero RICK RESCORLA and has written an outstanding February 2002 Column about this lifelong lifesaving American Hero in the JEWISH WORLD REVIEW.

57 posted on 10/31/2002 10:01:32 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: All; Joy Angela
....Today's JUDICIAL WATCH Report Guest MICHELLE MALKIN just stated that if this country does not clean up its illegal alien problem soon...

...we can expect MORE SHOOTINGS like the D.C. Sniper Case of the last month.

...MICHELLE MALKIN also stated that organization-wise these 2 snipers DID NOT ACT ALONE, that the older sniper tried to bring in more illegal aliens from Jamica recently but was caught.

...Just WHAT was their real mission anyway...?
58 posted on 10/31/2002 10:43:16 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Your ongoing preaching only proves my point. I am very familiar with the history of Viet Nam for the last thousand years. So please stop. here's your pat on the back for doing your duty with an admonishment to be wary about critizing people's background when you don't know them.

Now take a shower, get a good meal, and let's get ready for Tuesday.

59 posted on 10/31/2002 10:49:04 AM PST by breakem
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To: breakem
ALOHA breakem...

...Sharing one's perspective based on one's own Life Experiences so that others may see what's going on around them more clearly as all Hell is breaking loose in our country is NOT preaching, as you say, it is EDUCATING and SUPPORTING.

...It seems that in comparing us two...

...one of us is OPEN -&- TEACHABLE, the other is NOT.

...As for myself I am quite content with how I am defined.

...NEVER FORGET, your understanding of what happened long ago in Vietnam has to be augmented with what has been happening there ever since that War ended in a Land that is now controlled by Godless Communism. For the people there it is a never ending story. To ignore what's happening to them is to not be grasping the REST OF THE STORY.

...Its importance increases even more when you start seeing that some of the things that caused the Fall of Freedom there long ago...

...are happening now RIGHT HERE.

RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP is not my M.O.

Nor should it be yours.
60 posted on 10/31/2002 11:41:53 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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