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Controversy Over Alleged Islamic Ties to Oklahoma City Bombing Continues (Jayna strikes back!)
CNSNEWS.COM Website -- Letters to the Editor ^ | November 4, 2002 | Jayna Davis

Posted on 11/04/2002 7:39:55 AM PST by TXnMA

Letters to the Editor for November 4, 2002


By CNSNews.com Readers

Controversy Over Alleged Islamic Ties to Oklahoma City Bombing Continues (Jayna Davis strikes back!)

(Editor's Note: The following is a response by journalist Jayna Davis to certain assertions by Cate McCauley, an investigator appointed by the U.S. District Court to assist with the appeal of convicted Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, which were published in the October 30 article 'McVeigh Defense Investigator questions Senator's Probe.')

"Twenty-two witness affidavits supported by 25-hundred pages of corroborative evidence is hardly a 'very small package of information,' (about the Oklahoma City bombing). McCauley is wholly unqualified to criticize the complexities of the investigative dossier because she has never reviewed it.

I interviewed nearly 80 potential witnesses, but I deemed only two-dozen to be credible because the veracity of their testimonies could be independently corroborated and their stories did not conflict with the government's timeline of the movements of the Oklahoma City bombers. All confidently identified eight specific Middle Eastern men, the majority of whom are former Iraqi soldiers, collaborating with McVeigh and Nichols during various stages of the bombing plot. They have signed sworn affidavits confirming their testimonies.

After a thorough vetting process, this investigation has earned the ringing endorsement of the lead impeachment prosecutor David Schippers, former Deputy Director of the State Department's Office of Counter Terrorism Larry Johnson, former Director of the CIA James Woolsey, former Chief of Human Intelligence for the Defense Intelligence Agency Colonel Patrick Lang, the Director of Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare Yossef Bodansky, and the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal, including senior editorial writer Micah Morrison.

Former CIA analyst and Deputy Director of Counter Terrorism for the Department of State, Larry Johnson, has determined that 'without a doubt, there is a definite Middle Eastern tie to the Oklahoma City bombing.' As a Fox News consultant, he has expressed publicly his concern that the Islamic terrorist network, which assisted McVeigh and Nichols, is still operational and poses a threat to national security.

In addition to comprehensive coverage published by the Indianapolis Star and the LA Weekly, I have been invited as a guest to discuss this investigation with Lou Dobb's of CNN, Fox News (Bill O'Reilly, John Gibson, Greta Van Susteren, and John Scott). The credibility of my work has also been recognized by nationally syndicated radio show host Glenn Beck as well as numerous talk radio programs in several major markets (New York, San Fransico, Minneapolis, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Tampa, Miami, Nashville, and Richmond.)

(Regarding the civil suit brought against Davis over certain information concerning her investigation,) The court ruling in that lawsuit established I acted responsibly. When I resigned my position at KFOR, I was legally responsible to protect the recorded statements of the confidential witnesses. (Oklahoma State District Court) Judge (Brian) Dixon upheld my journalistic First Amendment pledge to the confidential witnesses to keep their statements sealed until such time that 'law enforcement officials launched a legitimate investigation into the identity of those involved in the April 19, 1995 bombing of the Murrah Building.'"

Jayna Davis Yukon, OK


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KEYWORDS: catemccauley; jaynadavis; meconnection; okcbombing
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To: honway; thinden; All
FWIW--

There are many long-time followers of the OKC investigation here who have never forgotten-and will never forget- how Jayna Davis got OKCSubmariner banned from FR. It is quite reasonable in my mind to question if Jayna Davis--supposed crusader for truth--hasn't been compromised in some way.

She most certainly deserves credit for her efforts in the beginning to get to the truth--but her treatment of OKCSubmariner at the end suggests to me she has been compromised.

81 posted on 11/07/2002 8:54:25 PM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: Lion's Cub
I don't believe that.
82 posted on 11/07/2002 9:24:53 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Lion's Cub; honway
Jayna Davis got OKCSubmariner banned from FR.

I do not believe that, either.

My understanding was that he was booted for (repeatedly) posting accusative statements as fact -- without attribution or references to back up his accusations.

Honway, we corresponded via FReepmail about Briley's getting booted. Do you belive Lion's Cub 's claim?

TXnMA (No Longer!!!)

83 posted on 11/07/2002 10:22:51 PM PST by TXnMA
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To: honway
Thank you for the update. This thread is quite an interesting read. Now, if I am understanding this issue correctly, I will make the following statement (my point of view as a professional investigator):

If producing "direct evidence" does not compromise the integrity of any current investigation or place any sources in jeopardy, I cannot find any logical reason for keeping it under wraps. In fact, making such evidence public would further legitimize the claims of the individual citing the evidence, and obviously bolster his/her credibility.

Having said that, am I missing something?

84 posted on 11/08/2002 12:31:25 AM PST by Huggy
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To: TXnMA
Thanks for including me in your querry to honway. If I'm wrong, I will retract my statement. Awaiting honway's answer, since I know honway saw more threads about this than I did.
85 posted on 11/08/2002 2:47:01 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: TXnMA
First, I have great respect for Lion's Cub's perspective.

Second, I would like to focus my comments toward encouraging Jayna Davis and Nancie Drew to post the Herb Johnson letter and the prior warning memos on jaynadavis.com.

The specific Herb Johnson letter I am referring to is the one written in September of 1998. Herb Johnson, before his death in November of 1998,was the chief of staff for Senator Inhofe. At the request of Dan Nelson, Herb Johnson wrote a letter memoralizing a conversation with a close friend who was working in the Command Center of the OKC Bombing Task Force. The letter descibed the directive the Task Force received approximately 72 hours after the bombing which ordered the FBI Agents to ignore the Middle Eastern participants in the bombing.

86 posted on 11/08/2002 5:31:22 AM PST by honway
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To: TXnMA
Piney Woods bump!
87 posted on 11/08/2002 5:38:37 AM PST by lodwick
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To: Huggy; All
In fact, making such evidence public would further legitimize the claims of the individual citing the evidence, and obviously bolster his/her credibility.

Thank you for staing it much more clearly than I can. In the "How can I Help" portion of Jayna's website, she encourages people to write our elected represenatives which is the best hope remaining for justice.
Many in Washington know the name Herb Johnson. Consider what an increased impact a letter to your Senator requesting an investigation into the ME connection would have if you could include a copy of Herb Johnson's letter describing the directive to ignore the ME connection to the bombing.

If Jayna would post a copy on her website it would bolster the case we are all trying to make to our family, friends and elected officials. Please consider emailing jayna at jaynadavis.com and requesting a copy of the Herb Johnson letter and the prior warning documents be posted at jaynadavis.com.

If she posts the documents, I believe others and I can be more effective in carrying out her recommendations in "How Can I Help".

_____________________________________________________________

From jaynadavis.com

How can I help?

There are a number of different ways to get involved.

First, contact your elected representatives, both local and national, and urge them to look into this matter and contact Jayna. Write them a personal letter (please NO mass chain emails!) and express your concern and an expectation that they will respond properly.

Second, contact your local print and broadcast media (both TV and radio) and suggest they cover the story.

Third, share the JaynaDavis.com link with your friends and post the link on any message board threads that have already mentioned the investigation

88 posted on 11/08/2002 6:03:40 AM PST by honway
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To: JudyB1938
Thanks for considering the information in reply #88.
89 posted on 11/08/2002 6:18:12 AM PST by honway
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To: PhilDragoo
And there were no Islamo terrorists blowing up the Murrah Building.

...and that's because Rush Limbaugh and AM talk radio were really to blame...

90 posted on 11/08/2002 6:38:37 AM PST by martin gibson
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To: rwfromkansas; Wm Bach; truth defector
Please see replies #70,71, and 88.
91 posted on 11/08/2002 6:49:50 AM PST by honway
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To: thinden
I did not have sex with, that woman ...

Sorry, wrong thread!

92 posted on 11/08/2002 6:54:18 AM PST by antidisestablishment
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To: Lion's Cub
Your theory in #38 is part of the equation. It doesn't explain Bush and Ashcroft's willing complicity.

I don't believe that there is any complicity on the part of President Bush and AG Ashcroft. You must understand the pecking order within the Justice Department. There are numerous layers within Justice, and the FBI. I can't remember the number, but within the FBI alone, there are thousands and thousands of employees. Decisions can be made by midlevel management that won't reach the upper levels within Justice in DC, or the AG and most certainly the Oval Office. And field agents can be controlled by midlevel management, and told to drop this investigation or that, and Washington will never know. And remember, this all occurred under the Clinton administration. Under the Clinton justice department. Under Reno. Now tell me. Do you think that Clinton's justice department could be compromised? Remember, what was the one thing that Clinton was striving for to establish his legacy? Mid-East Peace. Peace between Israel and the Arab nations. What would the open knowledge of arab nation sponsored acts of war against the US cause? A US military response to the arab nation or nations that sponsored that act of war. What would US military action against an Arab nation do to middle east peace? Well, it would kill it. Thus killing Clinton's legacy. Therefore, acknowledgement that the OKC bombing was tied to one or more arab group or nation would have killed Clinton's legacy. Therefore, the possibility that the investigation was re-routed another direction. Clinton and Reno are gone. But, many of those midlevel justice operatives are still in place. Their butts are still on the line. President Bush and AG Ashcroft came into office, in the dark, because the lights were turned out on this thing years before Bush and Ashcroft were in positions to look. I believe that if this evidence can ever truely see the light of day, then Bush and Ashcroft will do the right thing. I don't believe that they will cover it up. But they depend on those midlevel Justice operatives. They can only rely on what is given to them. So it will take a congressional review/task force/investigation to ferret out the truth.

But hey, that is just my humble opinion. I have no evidence other than what Jayna has uncovered, and my beliefs. Other than to reiterate again. I was there on 4-19-95. I stood at the lip of the blast crater around 9:45 AM. I ran harder than I have ever run, or will run again, when the fireman popped up out of the rubble and hollered that he had found another possible bomb. (Turns out it was some type of device in the rubble of the ATF office.) I ran to the makeshift command post near the intersection of 7th and Harvey. And I was there when the ranking officers were discussing that fact that witnesses had seen two (2) middle eastern men (actually, I believe the term used was "arab" men) were seen fleeing the Murrah building in a pickup truck, just moments before the bomb went off. I remember, LEOs making statements that it was time for us, the US, to "nuke those damn ra_ heads off the face of the earth". And I remember hearing the LE discussions regarding the APBs and BOLOs that were immediately thereafter released to all of us LEOs. And, I know that there were numerous arabic men that were stopped and detained for questioning the first few hours after the bombing. So, I will always believe, and I will go to my grave with the belief that there were others involved. Was there ME state sponsorship? I don't have first hand knowledge of that. But were McVeigh and Nichols alone? From what I saw, and heard, NO.

93 posted on 11/08/2002 2:34:23 PM PST by yukong
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To: widowithfoursons
"Again I ask; "Why was McVeigh's execution expedited?"

Ashcrofts handlers said, "Keep this mess covered up!!".

And he did as he was told....

94 posted on 11/08/2002 2:51:43 PM PST by hove
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To: TXnMA
The same thing I've been saying for a long while!
Release the Videotapes Notra Trulock Saturday, Nov. 9, 2002
Twice in recent months, Patterson has reported that Chairman Dan Burton's House Government Reform Committee investigators have uncovered the possible whereabouts of videotapes and photographs of the Murrah Federal Building from the day of the bombing. The Final Report of the Oklahoma Bombing Investigation Committee (OKBIC) noted the existence of such tapes, but the Justice Department has adamantly refused to release them, even in response to Freedom of Information Act requests.

Release the Tapes!

95 posted on 11/09/2002 7:22:40 AM PST by philman_36
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To: philman_36
I have posted the Notra Trulock article found by philman_36 as a new thread here.
96 posted on 11/09/2002 8:46:11 AM PST by TXnMA
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To: TXnMA
I saw.
97 posted on 11/09/2002 8:53:17 AM PST by philman_36
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To: honway
.....named general counsel for the Oklahoma Corporation Commission.

traditionally, oklahoma corporation commission appointments have been a real political plum for supporters of the governor?

98 posted on 11/10/2002 6:40:54 AM PST by thinden
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To: yukong
(Turns out it was some type of device in the rubble of the ATF office.)

Sorry, yukong, you have been misinformed.

99 posted on 11/10/2002 8:28:18 PM PST by honway
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To: honway
Well, I don't know in what way I was misinformed. All I know is that the fireman thought he found another bomb. Another bomb didn't go off. My point in that statement was that I was there. Because of the second bomb scare, I ran to the area where the make shift command post had been established giving me the opportunity to listen in on conversations with the head LEOs who were discussing the early witness statements. I was simply giving the information as a frame of reference. I have heard the theories that there were bombs placed at strategic points in the building, and that there was a undetonated bomb found. And I have heard the theories that there was some sort of bomb in the ATF office, that belonged to the ATF. I do not believe either. If in fact there was an undetonated bomb, of either type, they would not have let us back into the building area as quickly as they did. The evacuation was not lengthy enough for an undetonated bomb to have been disarmed, and safely removed. That is just my opinion. Nothing to base that on. Just my opinion, based on my observations.
100 posted on 11/10/2002 9:09:33 PM PST by yukong
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