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Odd Farm-Sector Surge Distorts Jobs Data
Yahoo/Reuters ^ | Tuesday November 5, 2002 2:48 pm ET | Wayne Cole

Posted on 11/06/2002 5:59:31 PM PST by arete

NEW YORK (Reuters) - An inexplicable surge in farm jobs has played a major part in keeping the U.S. unemployment rate down in recent months, despite persistent weakness in other labor market indicators.

Without the jump in farm-based employment since June, the jobless rate would have climbed steadily to reach 6.0 percent in October. Instead the jobless rate fell in September and then inched back to 5.7 percent last month.

If it had topped 6.0 percent, consumer confidence might have suffered far more, bond yields tumbled and the case for an interest rate cut -- now expected on Wednesday from the Federal Reserve -- might be that much clearer.

The strength baffles analysts and statisticians alike and could reinforce financial market skepticism of the unemployment figures as a reliable indicator of the economy.

"The massive surge in farm jobs has been an important factor depressing the published unemployment rate at a time of little or no growth in nonfarm payroll employment," said Rory Robertson, an interest rate strategist who covers the U.S. economy for Australian house Macquarie Equities.

"Of course, the rapid growth in farm jobs -- the fastest in more than 50 years of data -- seems implausible, to say the least," he added.

The Department of Labor uses a monthly survey of 60,000 households to compile the unemployment series, in contrast with the monthly payrolls figures, which come from an established survey of around 350,000 businesses.

In recent months the unemployment rate has diverged from the trend in payrolls, dipping from 5.9 percent in June to 5.6 percent in September before edging up to 5.7 percent last month.

At the same time, payrolls growth has been muted at best, running at levels which typically would be associated with a rise in the jobless rate.

The dichotomy has stirred a major debate among economists -- some of whom claim that the unemployment survey is flawed, while others argue that it is actually more representative of the economy as a whole and the payrolls survey is at fault for overlooking hundreds of thousands of small firms.

The odd behavior of the farm sector would seem to support critics of the unemployment survey and suggests that the true jobless rate is higher than the figures suggest.

UP ON THE FARM

The stellar performance of the usually laggard farm sector certainly sits at odds with the sluggish state of the broad economy.

Since June some 415,000 jobs have been created in agriculture, excluding forestry and fishing -- a rise of 13 percent and easily the fastest growth in decades.

While the farm sector makes up only 2.6 percent of total employment, its surge has accounted for almost fully half of the 861,000 new civilian jobs generated since June.

"It's certainly an unusual occurrence, but we haven't looked into it as such," said a spokesperson at the Department of Labor.

She noted that much of the jump came in October and that the figures were volatile from month to month, suggesting farm employment could easily fall sharply in November.

Farm jobs climbed 227,000, seasonally adjusted, in October to 3.525 million, having risen 110,000 the month before. In June total farm sector employment was reported at 3.110 million.

The strength of farm jobs also came as a surprise to the Department of Agriculture, where an economist said there had been no developments in the industry to account for such an astounding pickup.

"Is anything real going on here?" asked Robertson at Macquarie. "Or is it best just to walk away with the conclusion that the household survey data -- including the published unemployment rate -- are too erratic to be taken seriously?"


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: depression; economy; employment; fraud; gold; investing; jobs; recession; silver; stockmarket
Interesting. Very interesting.

Richard W.

1 posted on 11/06/2002 5:59:31 PM PST by arete
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To: Willie Green
Have you seen this before?

Richard W.

2 posted on 11/06/2002 6:00:06 PM PST by arete
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To: arete
Yeah. I posted it early yesterday afternoon.

Odd Farm-Sector Surge Distorts Jobs Data

3 posted on 11/06/2002 6:06:09 PM PST by Willie Green
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To: arete
I don't know, but with the passage last year of the new farm subsidies and the weak job market, is it unreasonable that a lot of 20 something's from the midwest have moved back to the family farm?
4 posted on 11/06/2002 6:07:03 PM PST by Rodney King
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To: farmfriend
PING
5 posted on 11/06/2002 6:09:56 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Willie Green
Yeah. I posted it early yesterday afternoon.

Sorry, I missed it. Oh well, we get a repeat. Important info, so it can't hurt.

Richard W.

6 posted on 11/06/2002 6:10:34 PM PST by arete
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To: arete
Oh well, we get a repeat. Important info, so it can't hurt.

I agree. It's important to shed light on how the globalist bureacrats cook the books to pull the wool over people's eyes.

7 posted on 11/06/2002 6:15:22 PM PST by Willie Green
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To: arete; hedgetrimmer
The strength of farm jobs also came as a surprise to the Department of Agriculture, where an economist said there had been no developments in the industry to account for such an astounding pickup.

Maybe this has to do with the increased focus on illegal aliens including the focus on Social Security numbers.

8 posted on 11/06/2002 6:31:49 PM PST by farmfriend
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To: farmfriend; arete; Willie Green; Rodney King
How can illegal aliens be counted in the unemployment rates?

Easy, we give them welfare. Get the buggers out of America and let young Americans go back to the farm.

9 posted on 11/06/2002 6:47:15 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
We have all seen the reports about Social Security cracking down on the numbers. I figure all the traditional farm labor is having trouble, others are having to take the jobs to compensate and thus the growth in farm labor numbers.
10 posted on 11/06/2002 11:49:19 PM PST by farmfriend
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To: arete; rohry; Wyatt's Torch; meyer; DarkWaters; STONEWALLS; TigerLikesRooster; Ken H; MrNatural; ...
An inexplicable surge in farm jobs

Inexplicale, my butt, it is harvest season.

11 posted on 11/07/2002 2:39:05 PM PST by razorback-bert
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To: razorback-bert
"Inexplicale, my butt, it is harvest season."

Bert, I posted this on another thread in reply to someone who raised the same issue. Read this sentence from the article:

Since June some 415,000 jobs have been created in agriculture, excluding forestry and fishing -- a rise of 13 percent and easily the fastest growth in decades.

Are we growing more food than we have in decades? I'm not a farmer but I don't think we are...

12 posted on 11/07/2002 2:47:45 PM PST by rohry
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To: rohry
There is surge every normal harvest, bad years produce a decline. Last year and the year before were bad years, a lot of crops were left in the field for insurance reasons. Actually, I don't really see an increase in harvest crews and other harvest actions and I am driving through one of the largest cotton, peanut, and chile peppers production areas daily. The cotton crop is one of the best, I have ever seen in West Texas. I grew up and was in the agri-chem and cotton business for years and get all the trade journals.
13 posted on 11/07/2002 3:12:21 PM PST by razorback-bert
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To: arete
Bump
14 posted on 11/07/2002 3:15:19 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: razorback-bert
"I grew up and was in the agri-chem and cotton business for years and get all the trade journals."

I defer to your judgement, I'm strictly a suburban observer of flower gardens and backyard vegetable patches. I hope I'm not this wrong about everything...

15 posted on 11/07/2002 3:20:05 PM PST by rohry
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To: rohry
your thinking may be correct. In the last 6-7 years the Wall Street JOurnal, Barron's and Investor's Business Daily have all run editorials where they question the accuracy of government statistics on economy.
16 posted on 01/23/2003 9:40:09 AM PST by Red Jones
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