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South Park Rising
TechCentralStation ^ | 11/14/2002 | Stephen W. Stanton

Posted on 11/15/2002 6:22:37 AM PST by hchutch

A recent column titled "South Park Republicans" challenged conservative stereotypes by suggesting that a many Republican voters are more inclined to watch Comedy Central than the Christian Broadcasting Network. The piece struck a chord. Actually, it struck several. You can read the reaction for yourself by doing a Google search for "South Park Republicans." Responses range from enthusiastic support to outright ridicule.

A few clarifications are in order. First, not all viewers of "South Park" are Republicans. Certainly, not all of Barbara Streisand's listeners are steadfast Democrats. And the concept of South Park Republicans is not new. Back in 2000, an article was published detailing The Inherent Conservatism of "South Park". The term "South Park Republicans" was first coined by Andrew Sullivan.

Some readers rightly noted that there is not necessarily a dichotomy between South Park Republicans and the Christian right. According to the official South Park website, "members of the Christian right have condemned the show for being bad for practically anyone who wants to go to heaven." However, many Christian conservatives agree with their more secular brethren on the issues of smaller government, lower taxes, fewer regulations, and personal responsibility. Indeed, many conservative Christians responded favorably to the article. One reader began her supportive email, "As a twenty-something, conservative, Christian who appreciates the humor of South Park…"

Many readers tried to debunk the existence of South Park Republicans based on a simple equation: Republican minus religion equals libertarian (they insist on a lowercase "L"). The logic is reminiscent of those demanding that "Jews for Jesus" call themselves plain old Christians. (Too many "J" words, evidently.) More importantly, not all South Park Republicans are libertarians. There is no single "South Park Republican" platform. They have different views on drugs, guns, abortion and Social Security. In addition, South Park Republicans are not uppercase Libertarians for one simple reason. They vote for Republicans. In fact, voting Republican is one of the group's two defining characteristics.

The other defining characteristic is a visible disconnect from the stereotypical Republican, an affluent, religious, white, male, moralist. In contrast, South Park Republicans can be any age, any color and any religion. Unlike archetypal Christian conservatives, they do not find much of modern pop culture offensive. In fact, they love it. They enjoy the non-Christian mysticism of Star Wars, the acrobatic violence of Jackie Chan, and the comedic vulgarity of Chris Tucker. The Christian right observes pop culture. South Park Republicans live pop culture, invoking movie quotes in casual conversation far more often than the Lord's name.

In this respect, South Park Republicans are a far cry from Rod Dreher's "granola conservatives." Dreher, who writes for the conservative National Review, admits that he has "a disdain for, or at least a healthy suspicion of, mass culture." South Park Republicans do not disdain mass culture because they are mass culture. Sure, some SPR's eat free-range chicken and organic vegetables like Dreher, but as a group, they are more likely to eat at Taco Bell. To the extent there is an overlap at all, granola conservatives represent a small fraction of South Park Republicans.

Different South Park Republicans often describe themselves as conservatives, libertarians, classical liberals, pragmatists, constitutionalists, or "just your average Joe." However, when election day comes around, they all generally vote for Republican candidates. But their vote must be earned. They are idealists, perhaps even pragmatists, but not party loyalists. In fact, the creators of the South Park TV show brutally satirized the current president in their short-lived series, "That's My Bush."

What's Under the Tent?

South Park Republicans each vote Republican for their own reasons. Some agree with every plank in the party's platform, in spite of having a nose ring and purple mohawk. However, most view Republicans as the lesser of two evils. Due to the quirks of our electoral system, candidates require a plurality to win, not a majority. If Libertarians wrested away half of the Republican votes in every major election, Democrats would hold nearly every seat in Congress. South Park Republicans want to avoid that, even if it means voting for Republicans when third party candidates may better reflect their views.

Democrats are keenly aware of electoral calculus. Long ago, they assembled an unlikely coalition to exploit it. For decades, Democrats have held their multifaceted party together with tape and glue. Today, former Klansman and current Senator Robert Byrd is in the same party as African-American Georgia Rep. Billy McKinney, who blamed his daughter's congressional defeat on a Jewish plot, though he did not mention Jewish Democrats by name, such as former Democratic VP candidate Joe Lieberman. Democrats hold together environmentalists protesting big oil in the same party as the union auto workers who depend on cheap oil and even the trial lawyers that skim 30% from whichever side wins. The Democrats have room for almost everybody in their big tent.

When you lift the flap to peek inside, who will you see in the Republican tent? After looking at the ad hoc membership of the left, it becomes easy to accept the South Park crowd as a viable Republican caucus, numerically dwarfing other factions such as, say, the Log Cabin Republicans. Of course, with congressional control and a sitting president, there must be far more people - and far greater diversity - in the Republican party than Hollywood might have you believe. Hilary Clinton got it half right: The right wing is truly vast, encompassing a vibrant and diverse base holding many different priorities. However, there is no conspiracy; the party is not monolithic.

In fact, the party is evolving rapidly. The newest and youngest members do not look, act, or think like the old guard. Generation X grew up with computers and cable TV. They entered the workforce at the same time as the Internet and embrace technology. They access the information and entertainment they want when they want it. They are individualists, with little patience for censorship or prejudice. Generation Y grew up even later, after political correctness had already firmly taken root. They now rebel against the very institutions, such as racial quotas, that were put in place by the progressives who fought the conservatism of the '60s.

Yet voters continue to see the same gray-haired faces representing the Republican party, in the same suits, with familiar priorities. But that will not last. Political parties are dynamic and they evolve. The South Park Republicans represent a large and growing caucus, espousing many of the party's core ideals, though rejecting the intolerance and censorship of certain religious elements.

South Park Republicans are very real and candidates should listen. Within two days of publication, the previous column generated email from many self-described South Park Republicans. They included a middle aged mother who finds the TV show tasteless, an economics professor, a blue collar worker, an old Truman Democrat, a naval veteran, a home-schooled teen, several Log Cabin Republicans, a tax lawyer, and a 31 year old, Jewish, mink-coat wearing, politically incorrect woman.

The Republican party cannot hold its current majority without this increasingly powerful caucus. The party can continue to adapt and prevail, or splinter and lose. The great thing about big tents is that they are portable. The Republicans of the future do not have to set up the big tent on the same exact political turf of yesteryear.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bigtent; gop; southpark; southparkrepublicans
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To: HairOfTheDog
with a newly elected republican governor, there won't be for long.
221 posted on 11/15/2002 12:01:57 PM PST by GoreIsLove
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To: fissionproducts
Because in many religious circles you cannot ask certain questions about the faith without be called a heretic.

I know! Ignore those people! Pray for them if you want, but don't let them destroy your personal relationship with the Creator. Christ died to take away your sins, not your mind.
222 posted on 11/15/2002 12:47:22 PM PST by Hemlock
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To: hobbes1
Reliogion is the contemplative pursuit of the knowledge of God.

I thought that was "theology"?
223 posted on 11/15/2002 1:12:30 PM PST by Technogeeb
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To: fissionproducts
Good observation. I do have faith that the universe outside of my mind exists.

Thanks. Your worldview, then, is by definition no less "irrational" than the theistic worldview. You are a believer. Faith = faith.

224 posted on 11/15/2002 1:22:01 PM PST by B-Chan
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To: hchutch
but as a group, they are more likely to eat at Taco Bell.
Totally nailed me down.
226 posted on 11/15/2002 1:56:43 PM PST by ottersnot
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To: SaveTheChief
http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0%2C1%2C7321%2C00.html

Another Matt and Trey republican link.
227 posted on 11/15/2002 2:21:31 PM PST by ottersnot
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To: fissionproducts
You must understand that I do not believe in supernatural beings. This is a subjective conclusion though.

So is belief a subjective conclusion. It is a choice. As I was attempting to say, not very well apparently, proving God is futile as proof destroys that which was proven, at least as far as it being God in the generally accepted definition. So, if you are to believe you must do so in the absence of proof.

Many intelligent people are reluctant to even try to believe because they don't want to be, or to seem to be, foolish; to be thought to believe something that is nothing more than a superstition or myth. That is understandable. I went through that myself.

I was raised in the church, have a brother that is a preacher, attended college and became an atheist, then an agnostic and finally, years later, a believer. From an intellectual point of view, if that is your desire, agnosticism is the most honest. It is also, in my experience, the least satisfying.

It seems to me that a decision about the existence of God is about the most important decision a person can make. It is the basis for how you live your life, how you treat others, how you feel about others, and, most importantly, your attitude about life in general. Along that line, being an agnostic is to punt the issue rather than to make a decision. I am not saying that you cannot live a moral and productive life with good personal relationships in the absence of belief. I am just saying it is harder, but it is one of those "you had to have been there" deals that I can't explain.

That leaves two choices - to believe there is not a God or to believe there is. Since neither can be proven (You can't prove a negative, there is not a God, and to prove a God destroys that which you were trying to prove.), you must subjectively decide which you would rather believe, which in your mind would bring about the most personal satisfaction. I decided a belief in God had the most potential so I set about trying to gain knowledge that would help me believe.

To make a years long story short, there is a lot in everyday life that enhances my belief but much of it is emotional. Yet, they are not the traditional emotions but rather feelings I had not previously felt nor are they easy to describe. Much of it is intuitive but they are feelings none the less. As I delved deeper into scripture I saw nuances and subtleties that were not obvious in the beginning. Having been a psychology and philosphy buff most of my life, I began to see that many of the answers to our everyday relationship problems and many of the ethereal theories of the "great thinkers" were always evident in plain and simple scriptures. I had not seen them earlier because I had discounted scripture as just a list of does and don'ts with a little Hellfire and brimstone thrown in as an enforcer.

Bottomline, I encourage you to not discount belief in God because it is counter-intelligual. (Intellectuals often outsmart themselves.) The pursuit, and it is continual, can be quite intellectually invigorating.

228 posted on 11/15/2002 2:38:17 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: hchutch
bump
229 posted on 11/15/2002 2:45:44 PM PST by Sam Cree
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To: B-Chan
"then the rationalist is left with the uncomfortable realization that the only thing in the universe one can know exists cannot be demonstrated to exist -- and, thus, that the entire structure of empiricism is based upon a non-empirical foundation."

You just reminded me why I got tired of philosophy.

230 posted on 11/15/2002 3:18:58 PM PST by Sam Cree
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan; tortoise
So - you like the game, eh? ;-)
231 posted on 11/15/2002 5:59:10 PM PST by an amused spectator
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To: hchutch
Ooooo, I like that! True, true.

BTW, where's the SOUTH PARK BUMP LIST and how do I get on it?

232 posted on 11/15/2002 7:59:21 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs; oldvike; weikel
Appears I played a small part in the controversy with this thread >>> South Park co-creator is a Libertarian (April 2001, courtesy of the L.A. Times via the Libertarian Party website)

Since then, they have both portrayed themselves as Republicans.

Hadn't heard that!
233 posted on 11/15/2002 8:28:55 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: weikel
Ditto that!

C'mon, Comedy Central. Whatcha waiting for?

234 posted on 11/15/2002 8:30:09 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Johnny Shear
Twinkle twinkle little RINO. How I wonder what you are.

Where were you when we were voting for a Republican Governor out here in California? OH, I see, bitchin' and moanin' about our candidate from another state for that past seven months, were ya. Where were all those "broken glass republican" buddies of yours?

< CARTMAN VOICE> Oooooo, whatsamatter, Johnny...got a little sand in your vagina? < /CARTMAN VOICE>

235 posted on 11/15/2002 8:36:27 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: rmmcdaniell
Don't change the subject when you make a fool out of yourself
You can't wrap your mind around something as simple of a thing as a word contraction and you're going to lecture me on religion and intellect? HA!
Who feels the fool now?
236 posted on 11/16/2002 4:26:49 AM PST by philman_36
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To: miloklancy
I could go on to some extent, but why bother. It wouldn't change your antireligious belief system one iota.
I'll say this...those are your opinions and you're entitled to them.
And this...It isn't just one person who is the ultimate Biblical boogeyman.

1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

We're all on borrowed time.

237 posted on 11/16/2002 5:05:19 AM PST by philman_36
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To: philman_36
It was a proofreading error. That kind of flaw is much better than suspending one’s reason and worshipping a god that doesn’t exist.
238 posted on 11/16/2002 10:38:35 AM PST by rmmcdaniell
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To: an amused spectator
It's the funnest game in the whole wide world!
239 posted on 11/17/2002 3:32:29 AM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan
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