I noticed the comment about the dead voters in Florida. Wonder why this was never brought out by Republicans? The dims still think they won the thing.
Thanks for the link bert. I will definitely include it on the list.
I guess it would have been pointless to raise that issue seeing's how it is apparently legal for the dead to vote under motor voter, and anybody else who feels like it since we certainly wouldn't want the dead to be offended or illegal voters to be prevented from perverting justice by insisting that voters prove that they were, in fact, eligible to vote.
Good find, bert. Thanks.
Here's Gray Davis's solution to voter fraud.
http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/ademocra.htm
California Governor's Race: A Democratic Party Art Form – Inventing Voters
Patrick Mallon
Monday, Aug. 26, 2002
This is the seventh article in a weekly series on the California governor's race. See previous articles:
Tammany Hall's Next Target – Simon's Faith (8/16)
California Governor's Race: Defying the Lies as Bombs Fly (8/9)
Stealth Agenda Trumps Academic Success in Schools (8/2)
Simon Survives Attacks, Davis Cons for Cash (7/26)
Paralyzed From Facing Reality (7/19)
California: Wanted! An Ethical Governor. Apply Within (7/15)
For starters, we're all aware that there are no ID requirements to vote in California, right? Everyone knew that. When I went to vote last March, just for fun, I said to one of the poll workers who found my name on the precinct list, "Why don't you ask me for identification to prove I am who I say I am?" In return all I got was a puzzled look, a smile, and "Oh, we're not supposed to ask that."
The other workers looked at me as if I was from another planet. How dare I ask such a question. What a troublemaker!
I asked, "What happens if someone wants to vote and their name is not on your list, say they just moved to the neighborhood and hadn't changed their address?" "Well, we give them a provisional ballot," she said.
In other words, anyone, from anywhere, legal or illegal, felon or foreigner, can request a ballot and vote, no questions asked.
In general, in all states, in order to register to vote, an applicant must be a U.S. citizen, a legal resident of the state, and 18 years old on or before Election Day. Simple verification, a simpleton might think, would be a validated photo ID.
But then this is California.
An Obvious Problem Meets the Immoral Silence
Like the hush-hush over the billions of dollars taxpayers fork over for services to illegal immigrants and others who do not file state taxes, the problem of vote fraud is like that huge, cankerous pimple on one's nose. It's just not there no matter how much the mirror lies.
Nannette Moffett, a member of the Voter Integrity Project and a columnist with the Nevada Policy Research Institute, had the following to say about California elections in "Voter Security: A Right Precariously Balanced."
"The INS turned over to Congress a list of more than 500,000 people who were not legal citizens on Election Day in 1996 but who appeared on voter registration files for Orange County, California, in the battleground race between Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D) and former Rep. Robert Dornan (R).
"The man accused of killing Mexican presidential candidate Luis Donaldo Colosio was a Mexican citizen who was registered to vote in two California cities."
The Gray Davis Solution to Vote Fraud
Latest word is that Gov. Davis is about to sign into law AB60, a bill that would give driver's licenses to up to 1 million illegal immigrants. Under existing law, an applicant must provide a Social Security Number to a DMV official to obtain a license.
AB60 would WAIVE this requirement. As a driver's license is the key to quasi-legitimacy in the eyes of law enforcement, and state agencies have effectively been intimidated from inquiring into an individual's lawful or unlawful presence, possession of a driver's license operates as de facto entry into the U.S.
Now, what was it Clinton signed into law in 1993? Oh yeah, the Motor Voter act that "makes it possible for Federal, State, and local governments … to enhance the participation of eligible citizens as voters in elections."
This "enhancement" is now in many cases interpreted to mean that ANYONE can register to vote at the DMV.
As the law states, "An application for, or a renewal of, a driver's license will serve as an application for voter registration unless the applicant does not sign the voter registration application portion of the form."
So, who's stopping a technically ineligible applicant from signing the form? There are no background checks, and there's no stopping anyone from assuming a false identity.
Ms. Moffat's 1996 article concluded prophetically: "Attorney General Janet Reno was asked by GOP Rep. Ed Royce to investigate non-citizen voting in California. But Assistant Attorney General Sheila Anthony retorted with 'there is no federal law that expressly requires voters to be citizens.' "
So, non-citizens can vote, and ballot-stuffing Marxists have been pushing the envelope ever since.
How Do the 'Civil Rights' Groups View Verification of Identity?
The sheer outrage of having to prove you are who you say you are to vote doesn't sit too well with the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund (MALDEF).
Back in February when the U.S. Senate was debating the Equal Protection of Voting Rights Act of 2001, MALDEF contested the provision that states would be required to establish a photo ID program for individuals who register to vote by mail.
According to MALDEF Vice President of Public Policy Vibiana Andrade, "Not only do Latinos have less access to the documents required, they will be subject more often to its requirements." Huh? You mean since they don't legally qualify to vote, they have no obligation to obey the law like other voters, Ms. Andrade?
The League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC) membership chimed in and requested that their membership support the Wyden-Schumer amendment opposing the photo ID program requirement.
Mr. Wyden, in a disingenuous ploy to reward vote fraud, said that a mere signature verification was an acceptable alternative to a photo ID for first-time voters casting ballots by mail.
So if you can spell (preferably with a pen), you can vote. And if you need help, someone can do it for you, since we're apparently on the honor system here.
It is beyond extraordinary that the franchise – the right to vote, a cherished privilege – should have its integrity reduced to such tawdry and pathetic subterfuge.
Easy Street at the DMV
According to the California DMV website, here's what appears following the question "Can I register to vote at DMV?"
Yes, when applying for or renewing your driver license or identification card at any DMV office, you have the opportunity of registering to vote. It is important to note that if you are registering to vote for the first time, changing your name or political party, or have moved to a new county, you must also complete a Voter Registration form to update the SOS Elections Division database.
Give your completed Voter Registration form to a technician, and DMV will mail it to the SOS Elections Division office for updating.
There is no mention of identification, eligibility, residency. Just mail it in. Isn't it great how proactive the DMV can be?
What the Cryptkeeper and Davis Don't See
Back on the election front, Garry South's depraved arrogance manifests itself as the Davis team's symbiotic cryptkeeper. The alter ego and architect of boorish shakedowns and brazen demands for cash, South makes no bones about his disdain for California voters and his insatiable thirst for ad buys: "The airwaves rule, and voters don't know anything unless they are told."
Got it, Larry. We don't have a clue, so we'll rely on you. Voters would be sensible in examining how loony Cynthia McKinney misread the negative effects her statements and policies had on constituencies she took for granted. Now she's out of a job.
In "Less-Educated Women Gravitating Toward GOP," published Aug. 19 in the San Diego Tribune, Dana Wilkie said: "Instead of supporting the party that strives to champion diversity, welfare and labor laws, these women in recent years have been voting more for Republicans. Democrats are trying to figure out why."
In the article, Wilkie quoted Anna Greenberg, a vice president at the Democratic polling group of Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research. "People who are less educated tend to be more socially conservative, they're more pro-life, and they're more religious."
Perhaps Hispanic voters, a traditional lock for Democrats, are seeing through the compost as well, and will act accordingly. It's one thing to be used, it's quite another to be called stupid.
Democrats Do It Because They Can – Got It, Punk?
Average Californians scratch their heads and ask WHY Davis insults the majority with policies clearly contrary to their best interests. It's not that hard to figure out.
Davis must sustain his own brew of injustice to placate the racial and cultural feelings that anchor his political power. There is more than enough money coming from quiet interests who want to undermine and anger the value system of those he seeks to destroy. And he's succeeding, due to the frothing aggression of energized activists who behave as a law unto themselves.
This doesn't mean he'll win in November, only that he is pulling out all the stops.
Too bad the GOP doesn't fight as dirty. And if they did, the legal vultures and opportunists at MALDEF and LULAC would hurl vile invective at Republicans, Bill Simon, whites and anyone else they could falsely accuse of racism.
Proposition 187, the measure that would have denied public benefits to illegal immigrants, passed in 1994 by a 60 percent margin. Today it is now used as the anti-GOP Tar Baby to prevent any and all dialogue about compliance with immigration laws, voting regulations, and responsibility for extraordinary taxpayer burdens in a time of budget bankruptcy.
"Proposition 187 was the last gasp of white America in California." Sounds racist, don't you think? Want to know who said it?
Art Torres, before 400 cheering Latinos at U.C. Riverside on Jan. 14, 1995. Guess where Mr. Torres is today? Why, he's the chairman of the California Democratic Party, a welcoming, progressive, thoughtful, balanced and tolerant organization, dedicated to the California promise and civil dialogue.
So the befitting way to close is to lighten up, be like Dr. Seuss and say: I could be you, you could be me, so pass me a ballot, no need for ID.
Y'all are gonna make sure I have plenty to do tomororrow so I don't get bored aren't you? LOL!
I'll be around here most of tomorrow to keep you company. I have an evening dinner. Hope you have some plans. I haven't even read all those links I posted in detail yet!
Nah, I don't have any plans. I could have gone up to my dad's but I think I will wait till the Christmas holidays and maybe go up there then....or not. It's not that far, but I just wasn't in the mood. LOL!
Posts #392 and 394 have lots of info on what goes on inside the voting locations. With your experience there, you should pick up some useful info.
To me, It is just another day. Friday is a big day for us at the shop so I have to suit up for that.
"We could skip registration, increase voting, and prevent fraud at the same time. Every American citizen has a social security number. We could put that number on driver's licenses and ID cards. Poll workers could take voters' social security numbers when they vote. A computer could scan the votes to verify that each social security number voted only once. It's simple. Too simple."
Article:
American Apartheid
Planet Obispo © 1994
by Jeff McMahon
Millions of black South Africans stood in lines a mile long to vote for the first time in history. The images zipped around the world and struck my retinas, and I thought of George Washington.
He's probably dead today, but George Washington was spry when I met him six years ago. He was 98 years old, black, and he had never voted.
I was 24 years old, white, and brimming with more verve than I could fit into the Merced Sun-Star, the daily newspaper I worked for at the time. So I spent my weekends in South Merced, the ghetto, filling out voter registration forms. It was a way to meet people, exercise my fanaticism about voting, and find Merced's untold stories.
As I filled out George Washington's form, I asked him why he'd never registered before.
"No one ever offered," he said.
I knew then that George was a newcomer to Merced, because another elderly man I registered had said to me, "One of you guys came around here right after the war."
"Vietnam?" I asked.
"World War II."
A few years later the League of Women Voters invited me to a forum at the library in San Luis Obispo. Its goal was to get more people to vote.
We broke into discussion groups. Mine included an arch-liberal county supervisor and an arch-conservative North County newspaper publisher. We volleyed ideas about getting more people to vote. I was stoked. I knew about this subject, had opinions about it, and finally had someone to talk to.
"Eliminate voter registration," I said.
Their eyes said a silent "What?"
"Eliminate voter registration. Make it so people can just go to the polls and vote. It's too complicated now. People don't know the rules. They forget to register 30 days ahead of the election. And it's all unnecessary. Just let them go to the polls on election day and vote."
I might as well have advocated free love.
"We can't do that," the conservative publisher said.
"There will be fraud," the liberal supervisor said.
"There's nothing stopping fraud now," I said.
It's true. People think voter registration prevents fraud. It doesn't. Nothing keeps anyone from registering under 20 names and voting 20 times. I have never once been asked for identification to register or to vote. The only thing voter registration prevents is voting.
We could skip registration, increase voting, and prevent fraud at the same time. Every American citizen has a social security number. We could put that number on driver's licenses and ID cards. Poll workers could take voters' social security numbers when they vote. A computer could scan the votes to verify that each social security number voted only once. It's simple. Too simple.
There may be a great argument against this idea, but I haven't heard it yet. The discussion group didn't like it. They suggested giving people buttons or lollipops when they vote, dropping registration forms at businesses, and getting newspapers, radio, and television stations to spread news about how to register.
I slouched. It's been tried. It's failed.
The League recruited a spectrum of citizens for its forum, but it missed one vital groupópeople who don't vote. I realized the people in the discussion group don't know people who don't vote. And people who don't vote don't know people who sit in discussion groups.
America has many cultures. One culture controls the post office, the county building, the daily newspaper, and the polling place. I'm not talking about race either. The mainstream culture may be largely white, but it includes other colors. People who don't vote include racial minorities, but also poor people, young people, and just about everyone else whose views have never echoed from a politician's mouth.
The mainstream culture has never spoken to the cultures that don't vote. If it did, it would probably just hand out another incomprehensible government form.
I developed my radical notions about voting, apparently, because I talked to people who don't vote. Then I, too, became incomprehensible to the people in discussion groups.
"All they have to do is go to the post office," the liberal supervisor said.
The fellow who hadn't registered since World War II didn't know to go to the post office or the county building to register. Neither did George Washington. And they weren't stupid. They were just different.
They didn't walk the halls of government buildings, and they didn't read the daily newspaper. They didn't know how to vote, and they weren't interested in wrestling the bureaucracy to find out. Those of us who ply the bureaucracy daily think it's a simple thing. It's not. For millions of Americans, the government is a thing to avoid.
Forms, registration deadlines, and consolidated precincts discourage people from voting. The question is, does the government and the culture that steers it discourage voting on purpose? I suspect it's largely ignorance of the way other people live. But it also works for them. It wins elections. It allows one culture to dominate the government, while projecting the image of the world's most free and honest elections. Some wily groups, like the Republican Party, have figured this out.
"I'm a Republican, and I really don't want more people to vote," the conservative publisher said during the League forum. People laughed, but he had spoken the only truth I heard there.
When I registered people in South Mercedóblack, white, Latino, and Laotianóalmost 80 percent signed up as Democrats. The next largest group picked "decline to state." Republicans fared best among the communist-fleeing Laotians, but overall they remained as scarce as Independents and Libertarians. I figured out quickly why Republicans oppose easy voting.
Later that year the Grand Old Party posted armed guards at Orange County polling places. The guards would prevent fraud, the party said. Imagine yourself a farmworker in Orange County, a new citizen more accustomed to the bloody elections of Guatemala or El Salvador, who goes to vote for the first time and sees a uniform and a gun.
Meanwhile, the sun rains down on black South Africans standing in line five hours to vote, bombs exploding around them. I think of George Washingtonóa wise and well-spoken black man, alive in America since 1890, named after the "father of our country"ówho had never voted.
It's not that we don't have apartheid in America. It's just that our apartheid is subtle.
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