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World Media Acknowledges Bin Laden Letter (Azzam)
Azzam ( Waaqiah.com ) ^ | Nov. 26, 2002 | Azzam

Posted on 11/27/2002 6:53:36 PM PST by JohnathanRGalt

Waaqiah.com

World Media Acknowledges Bin Laden Letter

LONDON (AZZAM) Nov. 26, 2002:  The World media has acknowledged the presence of an authentic letter from Usama Bin Laden to the American People. The English translation of this letter was released by Azzam on 22 October 2002 and this was followed by an attempt by other parties to discredit both the existence and authenticity of this letter.

On 17 November 2002, renowned Al-Jazeera TV Chief Investigative Journalist, Yosri Fouda, announced that he had received a six-page letter, in Arabic, from sources that he was 100% convinced were from Al-Qaida. Rough translations of that letter carried by both the Associated Press, Reuters and Britain's Sunday Times, mentioned phrases that were very similar to the letter released by Azzam about a month earlier.

Over the last weekend, the Arabic version of this letter was distributed amongst Islamist circles by email after appearing on Arabic web-sites that have distributed authentic Al-Qaida material before. Britain's Sunday Observer magazine ran a story about this letter and they also published the full text of the letter in their newspaper.

Political analysts believe that those parties that sought to cast doubt on the presence or authenticity of this letter should act professionally by publishing the letter and acknowledging their gross misjudgement. Those wishing to obtain authentic and reliable news on Jihad and the Mujahideen are encouraged to rely on news sources whose credibility was established long before 11 September 2001.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; azzam; binladen; islamicviolence; jihadinamerica; talibanlist; waaqiah
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Azzam is reveling in their new-found acceptance as a 'legitimate' news source for the world's press.

This is the same news agency that reports tens of thousands of Americans have been slaughtered in Afghanistan and have been shipped home in body bags -- and the U.S. Government is keeping it a secret from their families.

This same Azzam also has a picture of a dead soldier in a Russian uniform on their front page which they claim is an American and claim hearsay evidence that they know someone who has seen two other photographs of dead Americans even more gruesome. Want to read some Al-Qaeda chatter?  The dead soldier is a topic for discussion at the Waaqiah forum:

Assalamualaikum (abu hafs)
Posted: 7:16:03 pm on 11/18/2002 Modified: Never

It seems like im the first to post, inshallah i will post the latest news when i get it. Lets first enjoy this picture.


Re: Assalamualaikum (alqaida)
Posted: 7:56:35 pm on 11/18/2002 Modified: Never

salam brother this picture looks kind of fake? who takes a picture from that far? if i was there i would hav took a close up picture! i know the mujihideen kill the americans i hope the drive the infidels out of afghanistan ,i support the mujihideen inshllah they will get victory in afghanistan against the crusaders

wasalam brother

make allah give the mujhideen victory 

Re: Assalamualaikum (Mohammed Atef)
Posted: 8:36:00 am on 11/19/2002 Modified: 10:14:03 am on 11/19/2002

asalamu akiekum wa rehmatullah

brother in islam the picture that you had posted up insha allah  we will see more of them and we shall pray for the mujahideen and the muslims that are suffering in muslim country

wasalamu akiekum wa rehmatullah

Re: Assalamualaikum (Umm)
Posted: 1:28:51 pm on 11/19/2002 Modified: Never

Assalaamu Alaikum,

I think the picture is very convincing . It's a shame he isn't decapitated, but it is still nice.

wa-salaam,

Umm.
_____________________________________________
"Oh, you Muslims! Jihad is your life:
Your dignity and your existence depend upon it."
(Wasiyyah Shaykh Abdullah Azzam)

Re: Assalamualaikum (ismiyy)
Posted: 8:22:00 pm on 11/20/2002 Modified: Never
Assalaamu alaikum

I am not sure, maybe someone would like to correct me, but isnt decappitating dead bodies haraam in islaam?


Wasaalaamu alaikum

Re: Assalamualaikum (Umm)
Posted: 8:31:37 pm on 11/20/2002 Modified: Never

Assalaamu Alaikum,

Of course there are hadiths to say that it is haram to mutilate a dead body.  I meant whilst he was alive. If they had sliced his throat till his head dropped off, then the photo would have rated a 10/10. Then again... is it just me, or does the guy look like he is smiling insanely?

wa-salaam,

Umm

Re: Assalamualaikum (JLK)
Posted: 11:13:57 pm on 11/22/2002 Modified: Never
When I see the picture, I feel sad.  Just like I feel sad when I see pictures of Palestinians murdered by the Israelis.  All of mankind must respect each other to end the violence, this is the will of Allah, isn't it?
Re: Assalamualaikum (Assad)
Posted: 8:05:17 pm on 11/23/2002 Modified: Never
well they do much worse stuff to us.

Yes, Azzam does have connections to Al-Qaeda.

Azzam's Fatwa was the requirement that Muslims "kill Americans and their allies-civilians and military" -- and the hijackers carried it out.

After 9/11 European hackers who broke into www.Azzam.de German subscriber list and discovered an e-mail address for Said Bahaji, a fugitive identified as the computer geek of the 9-11 hijack cell based in Hamburg.

There is a long list of research about Azzam.com at: FreeRepublic

ICT in Israel has a report on Sheikh Abdullah Azzam

Time Magazine writes:
Al-Qaeda had its origins in the long war against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. After Soviet troops invaded the country in 1979, Muslims flocked to join the local mujahedin in fighting them. In Peshawar, Pakistan, which acted as the effective headquarters of the resistance, a group whose spiritual leader was a Palestinian academic called Abdallah Azzam established a service organization to provide logistics and religious instruction to the fighters. The operation came to be known as al-Qaeda al-Sulbah—the "solid base."

Last month, Azzam was removed from their server in Belfast North Ireland for threatening New Zealand. They are now located in Gloucester:

Fasthosts Internet Limited
Suite 7, Discovery Court
154 Southgate Street
Gloucester, GL1 2EX, UK

Fasthosts Terms of Use
abuse@fasthosts.co.uk
Complete contact info for fastshosts
Here's the Haganah entry for Azzam (Waaqiah).
1 posted on 11/27/2002 6:53:36 PM PST by JohnathanRGalt
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To: *JIHAD IN AMERICA; Bobibutu; Bad~Rodeo; Abar; Huggy; Sabertooth; reagan_fanatic; thatdewd; ...

Jehadi website ping: (let me know if you want on or off)

2 posted on 11/27/2002 6:54:22 PM PST by JohnathanRGalt
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To: JohnathanRGalt
The recent "Osama letter" has been discussed ad nauseum by freepers, and the general concensus is that it is an internet hoax. A poorly crafted forgery. bin Laden couldn't give a rodent's rear end about Kyoto. It is the absurd fabrication of a loser. Nothing more, nothing less.
4 posted on 11/27/2002 7:18:34 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar
The recent "Osama letter" has been discussed ad nauseum by freepers, and the general concensus is that it is an internet hoax. A poorly crafted forgery. bin Laden couldn't give a rodent's rear end about Kyoto. It is the absurd fabrication of a loser. Nothing more, nothing less.

I absolutely agree.

The news here is not authenticity of the fake bin Laden letter -- the news is Azzam is gaining in credulity.

  1. This letter has been up at the Azzam site for several weeks  and no one cared about it until the Guardian, Reuters, et. al. started thinking it was genuine.
  2. It is written in the style of the Azzam.com writers
  3. bin Laden doesn't use numerically ordered lists in his writing style.
  4. The real reason bin Laden's style is so stilted is because he's forced to dictate it from beyond the grave in a spiritualist séance.

5 posted on 11/27/2002 7:24:10 PM PST by JohnathanRGalt
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Thanks for posting that gruesome little conversation on the merits of decapitating dead bodies versus live ones. What do they talk about over dinner---the quickest way to slit a throat?

These terrorists should be ousted from the UK immediately or better yet, rounded up and disposed of before they do any more damage.

Just a thought...

6 posted on 11/27/2002 7:50:18 PM PST by SeenTheLight
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To: JohnathanRGalt

7 posted on 11/27/2002 8:02:22 PM PST by ppaul
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Regarding Post No. 5: I agree with you Mr. Galt.

It should be pointed out though, that quite a number of Middle East news sites do display an interest in the environment, pollution, and yes, a few of them are interested in the Kyoto treaty. (I read several Middle East-related news and views sites online on a regular basis.) A generic search engine on ALBAWABA.com - THE MIDDLE EAST GATEWAY will prove this out. (Search Keywords like Kyoto, environment, pollution, etc.)

My personal gut feeling, based on no facts at all, is that Has Been Laden is 6 ft. under OR he has had a major plastic surgery revamp.
I hope no one will find this crass or insensitive, but I sincerely hope that all the border officers are checking under those burkas (sp?) to make sure Bin Laden and friends are not traveling in disguise.

8 posted on 11/27/2002 8:17:42 PM PST by Cindy
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To: JohnathanRGalt
I found the part of the guy's "signature" that says:
"Oh, you Muslims! Jihad is your life:
Your dignity and your existence depend upon it."
to be particular chilling!What a miserable existance and an obsene way to find dignity.
9 posted on 11/28/2002 1:44:57 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy
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To: JohnathanRGalt
This same Azzam also has a picture of a dead soldier in a Russian uniform on their front page which they claim is an American and claim hearsay evidence that they know someone who has seen two other photographs of dead Americans

I think I've seen one of them in another islamist forum I was snooping around in. It too, is really a Russian. Pretty soon these rabid demons will claim to have sunk our entire navy and will post pics of Pearl Habor to 'prove' it. They really have gotten the big head over the letter deal. I saw that one of taliban-online's webmonkeys was in the azzam forum testifying to azzam's 'accuracy' and supremacy over JUS.

10 posted on 11/28/2002 1:50:03 AM PST by thatdewd
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Thanks for the ping.

You might want to take a look at http://www.mojahedoon.net/vb/showthread.php?s=d07d49598102acf3f6e14817906c6038&threadid=4902 , if you haven't seen it already. I've read that it contains a threat to bring down American, British, and Israeli web sites on Friday.

The domain mojahedoon.net is registered to somebody in Amman, Jordan.

11 posted on 11/28/2002 4:14:34 AM PST by Mitchell
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To: SeenTheLight
"Rounded up and disposed of"

Unfortunately, they hide in plain sight. I think it's time to take down their neighborhoods block by block. If the locals don't like it, they can turn over the terrorists among them, and we go on to the next.

It is only when the common people of Islam turn away the criminals among them, that we will truly see Islam being about peace for a change.


12 posted on 11/28/2002 5:58:08 AM PST by lds23
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To: Cindy
I admire your observation of how the Islamic terrorists are linking to the eco-terrorist organization/activities here in America (and the rest of the civilized world). Wouldn't surprise me any if we found them to be one and the same in groups when it comes to groups such as Earth First. The Islamic terrorists are recruiting the sheep and feeding them sheep dip, and they buy the whole thing in warped logic of "the end justify's the means" at all costs. Perhaps as the new security bill comes to life, one of the good things it could have would be a couple of secret investigation teams. These teams need to investigate just how dangerous to this country the greenies movement really is when one discovers who their real leader(s) are, and the useful idiots that they proclaim to lead.
13 posted on 11/28/2002 6:25:46 AM PST by Issaquahking
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To: Issaquahking
You posted, "Wouldn't surprise me any if we found them to be one and the same in groups when it comes to groups such as Earth First."

As you know I have been posting for a year, that we need to check out the probable financing from the Opecker Princes and rich Islamofascists in Iraq/Iran to the whole spectrum of Green Watermelon Jihadists.

Besides the Dirt First Criminals, ALF, ELF and Peta need to be checked out to see if they have receive financing from Opec Blood money.

We need to investigate the biggies in the enviral movement who have worked 24/7 since the days of Jimmy Carter to make us more dependent on Opecker Oil and less independent re producing our own oil. How much funding have they received from the Opecker Princes and Rich Islamofascist Rulers of Iran, Iraq, in the last two decades?

Then the final check needs to see if the biggies like Club Sierra have been money laundering machines to get campaign funds to pro enviral senators, congressits and governors.

14 posted on 11/28/2002 7:44:38 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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I agree with you. The weak minded simpletons of PETA and the rest of them are a perfect target for terrorists.
15 posted on 11/28/2002 7:52:50 AM PST by b4its2late
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To: b4its2late
One of my best friends is that rare critter a Black Conservative.

For over a decade he was one basic comment about all of the left wing wing organizations from Peta to the Nation of Islam.

Where do these organizations get their funding to be able work 24/7/365 to weaken or destroy America.

His mantra re these left wing organizations is "Follow the money source to these organizations. Then, stop the flow of the money! Then, these organizations will disappear!"
16 posted on 11/28/2002 7:57:59 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Cindy; Grampa Dave; Issaquahking; b4its2late
I read with interest what you wrote about the terrorists getting involved in various environmental groups.

I probably can't find it right now, but maybe will have a chance to search for it later, but I read something written by a man who is an Indian (not sure of that though) and is an expert on ME terrorism in India.

He believes that there is some evidence that the terrorists are getting involved in the animal rights movement.

17 posted on 11/28/2002 8:20:27 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: Grampa Dave; Cindy; Issaquahking; b4its2late
Here's the link:

link

"This article by Dr. Walid, a top scholar at the Islamic University, exposes our so-called secular Indian Muslims. By the doctrine of Al-Taqiyah, Muslims dominate crime syndicates, increase population by massive Bangladeshi infiltration and make temporary alliances with Dalits, Christians, etc."...

"One can easily detect Taqiyah in the two discourses used by Islamist strategists. On the one hand, one comprehensive Islamist theory is attempting to mobilize the Middle East, and sometimes Western Christian leaders and intellectuals, against "evil Jews".

"They are forming alliances with everyone from Animal Rights' groups (to attack the Jewish tradition of slaughter which is ironically similar in cruelty to the Islamic way) to Far Right fundamentalists (to push for censorship of critiques of Islam and attack every forward thinking movement like women's rights and gay rights)."

18 posted on 11/28/2002 8:29:13 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: Mitchell; SeenTheLight; ppaul; Cindy; Apple Pan Dowdy; thatdewd; lds23; Issaquahking; ...
You might want to take a look at http://www.mojahedoon.net/vb/showthread.php?s=d07d49598102acf3f6e14817906c6038&threadid=4902 , if you haven't seen it already. I've read that it contains a threat to bring down American, British, and Israeli web sites on Friday.

The domain mojahedoon.net is registered to somebody in Amman, Jordan.

Is there a discussion somewhere or translation in English for this thread at Mojahedoon?

Mojahedoon also provides detailed instructions for kidnapping, torturing, and how to get ransom money specifically from Americans.

The site may be registered to someone in Jordan, but it is hosted in Atlanta Georgia at DV2.COM.

If you ask DV2 about their hosting this and several other terrorist sites -- such as the Al-Qassam Martyrs Brigades, the military wing of Hamas -- you will be told by Jeff Hinkle, CEO of DV2, that the FBI is forcing them to host these terrorist sites.

Jeff Hinkle will also tell you that you might be charged with obstruction of justice for even mentioning the fact that DV2 is hosting the sites.

The FBI has not cooberated Jeff Hinkle's story.

19 posted on 12/02/2002 1:27:07 PM PST by JohnathanRGalt
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To: texasbluebell
Thanks for the ping and the link!
20 posted on 12/02/2002 1:32:27 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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