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Why Are Black Students Lagging?
New York Times | 11/29/02 | FELICIA R. LEE

Posted on 11/29/2002 11:31:28 PM PST by kattracks


The persistent academic gap between white and black students has touched off difficult and often ugly debates over the question why. Are racist stereotypes to blame? Substandard schools? Cultural attitudes?

This long-running argument may bubble up again next year with the arrival of a book that argues minority communities themselves contribute to student failure.

The book, "Black American Students in an Affluent Suburb: A Study of Academic Disengagement" (Lawrence Erlbaum Associates), is by John U. Ogbu, an anthropology professor at the University of California at Berkeley and a well-known figure in the field of student achievement for more than three decades. Indeed, it was Mr. Ogbu's research that popularized the phrase "acting white" in the mid-1980's to help explain why black students might disdain behaviors associated with high achievement, like speaking standard grammatical English.

Now Mr. Ogbu is back, arguing with renewed fervor that his most recent research shows that African-Americans' own cultural attitudes are a serious problem that is too often neglected.

"No matter how you reform schools, it's not going to solve the problem," he said in an interview. "There are two parts of the problem, society and schools on one hand and the black community on the other hand."

Professor Ogbu's latest conclusions are highlighted in a study of blacks in Shaker Heights, Ohio, an affluent Cleveland suburb whose school district is equally divided between blacks and whites. As in many racially integrated school districts, the black students have lagged behind whites in grade-point averages, test scores and placement in high-level classes. Professor Ogbu was invited by black parents in 1997 to examine the district's 5,000 students to figure out why.

"What amazed me is that these kids who come from homes of doctors and lawyers are not thinking like their parents; they don't know how their parents made it," Professor Ogbu said in an interview. "They are looking at rappers in ghettos as their role models, they are looking at entertainers. The parents work two jobs, three jobs, to give their children everything, but they are not guiding their children."

For example, he said that middle-class black parents in general spent no more time on homework or tracking their children's schooling than poor white parents. And he said that while black students talked in detail about what efforts were needed to get an A and about their desire to achieve, too many nonetheless failed to put forth that effort.

Those kinds of attitudes reflect a long history of adapting to oppression and stymied opportunities, said Professor Ogbu, a Nigerian immigrant who has written that involuntary black immigrants behave like low-status minorities in other societies.

Not surprisingly, he said, the parents were disappointed when he turned the spotlight on them as well as the schools. Peggy Caldwell, a spokeswoman for the Shaker Heights City School District, said that minority families cared deeply about their children's academic achievement and the district was working with education experts to reduce the racial achievement gap. She noted that while Professor Ogbu called most of the black families in the district middle class, 10 to 12 percent live in poverty.

Also not surprisingly, many researchers take issue with some of Professor Ogbu's latest findings.

"When we asked if friends made fun of kids who do well in school, we don't find any racial difference in that," said Ronald F. Ferguson, a senior research associate at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard who analyzed a new study of 40,000 middle and high school students in 15 middle class school districts, including Shaker Heights.

Indeed, the study, which was administered by the Minority Student Achievement Network, an organization that explores ways to close the racial achievement gap, found that African-American and Latino students work as hard and care as much about school as white and Asian students do.

Mr. Ferguson said that while minorities lag behind whites in things like homework completion, it is wrong to infer that they aren't interested in school. "High achievers are more often accused of acting white than low achievers, but it's because the low achievers suspect the high achievers believe they are superior."

"It's things like talking too properly when you're in informal social settings," he continued. "It's hanging around white friends and acting like you don't want to be with your black friends. It's really about behavior patterns and not achievement."

Mr. Ferguson speculated that what Professor Ogbu saw was a clumsy attempt by black students to search for a comfortable racial identity. "What does it mean to be black?" he said. "What does it mean to be white? The community needs to help kids make sense of their own identity."

"I would agree with Ogbu that there are youth cultural patterns and behaviors that are counterproductive for academic success," he went on, mentioning socializing in class and spending too much time watching television. "But when they engage in those behaviors, they are not purposely avoiding academic success."

Other researchers have zeroed in on other culprits, whether inferior schools, lower teacher expectations, impoverished family backgrounds or some combination.

Theories of black intellectual inferiority, too, have popped up from the 1781 publication of Thomas Jefferson's "Notes on the State of Virginia" to "The Bell Curve" in 1994 and beyond. Given that sensitivity and the implications for policies like school desegregation and affirmative action, virtually every aspect of the academic gap has been examined.

Where Professor Ogbu found that some middle class blacks were clueless about their children's academic life, for example, Roslyn Arlin Mickelson, a sociology professor at the University of North Carolina, instead concluded that such parents were often excluded from the informal networks that white parents use for information about courses, gifted programs and testing. "I believe, based on my own research, that the center of gravity lies with the school system," she said.

Claude Steele, a Stanford University psychologist, meanwhile, has hypothesized that black students are responding to the fear of confirming lowered expectations.

And Walter R. Allen, a professor of sociology at the University of California at Los Angeles, said that even when racial minorities and whites attended the same schools, they could have radically different experiences because of tracking and teacher expectations.

Professor Allen is conducting a long-term project on college access for African-American and Latino high school students in California. In his view, black students sometimes underperform because of subtle exchanges with teachers who convey the message that they find the students inferior or frightening. And, he said, minority schools still overwhelmingly lack good teachers and adequate teaching tools.

He also pointed out that comparing the income level of black and white families, as Professor Ogbu did with his Midwestern subjects, can be misleading. Black incomes might be derived from two-career families juggling several jobs compared with a single breadwinner in white households.

Professor Ogbu is no stranger to controversy. His theory of "acting white" has been the subject of intense study since he first wrote about it in the mid-80's with Signithia Fordham, then a graduate student and now a professor of anthropology at the University of Rochester. They studied an inner-city Washington high school where students listed doing well in school among the "white" behaviors they rejected, like visiting the Smithsonian and dancing to lyrics rather than a beat.

The two anthropologists theorized that a long history of discrimination helped foster what is known in sociological lingo as an oppositional peer culture. Not only were students resisting the notion that white behavior was superior to their own, but they also saw no connection between good grades and finding a job.

Many scholars who have disputed those findings rely on a continuing survey of about 17,000 nationally representative students, which is conducted by the National Center for Education Statistics, an arm of the federal government. This self-reported survey shows that black students actually have more favorable attitudes than whites toward education, hard work and effort.

But that has by no means settled the debate. In the February issue of the American Sociological Review, for example, scholars who tackled the subject came to opposite conclusions. One article (by three scholars) said that the government data were not reliable because there was often a gap between what students say and what they do; another article by two others said they found that high-achieving black students were especially popular among their peers.

"It's difficult to determine what's going on," said Vincent J. Roscigno, a professor of sociology at Ohio State University who has studied racial differences in achievement. "`I'm sort of split on Ogbu. It's hard to compare a case analysis to a nationally representative statistical analysis. I do have a hunch that rural white poor kids are doing the same thing as poor black kids. I'm tentative about saying it's race-based."

Indeed, Professor Mickelson of the University of North Carolina found that working class whites as well as middle-class blacks were more apt to believe that doing well in school compromised their identity.

All these years later, Professor Fordham said, she fears that the acting-white idea has been distorted into blaming the victim. She said she wanted to advance the debate by looking at how race itself was a social fiction, rooted not just in skin color but also in behaviors and social status.

"Black kids don't get validation and are seen as trespassing when they exceed academic expectations," Professor Fordham said, echoing her initial research. "The kids turn on it, they sacrifice their spots in gifted and talented classes to belong to a group where they feel good."



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To: mhking
On the contrary, if you examine black culutre in it's purest form, and go back to the pre-1960 timeframe, when you can and will see black cuture in it's pure form, you will find that there is a huge emphasis on education and on intellectual advancement within the culture.

Unfortunately, you never hear anything today about the black culture which was thriving and vibrant even in the Jim Crow South.

Granted, it did not extend to all black people by any means, but even in the early 1900s, and even in the South, there were blacks who were wealthier and better educated than most whites.

I think it's a tragedy that black children now are not educated about that part of their history - those people who succeeded despite tremendous obstacles - but instead are told that every difficulty is because the world is prejudiced against them.

81 posted on 11/30/2002 8:41:02 AM PST by Amelia
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To: Amelia
I believe a black man invented the traffic light. I also think that a black man developed blood transfusions. If this is the case, are these men's accomplishments being taught to black school children?
82 posted on 11/30/2002 8:53:02 AM PST by ladylib
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To: superdestroyer
Blacks from Africa constantly win major Marathons. NHL? Give me a break. The places where hockey is big, Canada and states that border Canada have very few blacks. How many Southerners are in the NHL? See what I mean. I hate to break it to you, but black people are built differently from white people. Look at boxing for an example.
83 posted on 11/30/2002 9:11:12 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: ladylib
Here we strike the nail on the head. To succeed (regardless of race) you must first put forth effort.

From the article:
And he said that while black students talked in detail about what efforts were needed to get an A and about their desire to achieve, too many nonetheless failed to put forth that effort.

It is applicable to everyone not just black students as is evident by your description on the entrance requirement for this high achievement black school in Jersey City. They want to succeed and put forth effort to ensure they do just that.

Maybe it's just me, but in almost every article I read about failing schools and students who fail to learn I fail to see anyone pointing at the students and asking the questions "do you really care, are you REALLY putting forth enough effort?". While parents, teachers and curriculum all contribute to the learning environment, it is ultimately up to the student to pay attention and retain.

Just my $0.02

84 posted on 11/30/2002 9:14:53 AM PST by cidrasm
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To: Fzob
My personal opinion in this matter is that all to often black students expect to be given decent grades because they exist and show up.

In the movie "Higher Learning", Omar Epps' character demonstrates this attitude perfectly. He expects his black political science professor (Lawrence Fishburne) to give him an easier ride just because he is also black. Fishburne sets him straight in a hurry - but I suspect there are far too few black university professors who think like Fishburne's character.

85 posted on 11/30/2002 9:26:27 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: mhking
I believe you are right to point to the "victim" identity as a key. Corrollaries of being a victim are:
1. Someone is doing something to hurt you; 2. you are helpless to prevent it, or to improve your lot; 3. as a victim you are entitled to some sort of compensation, for your victim status alone, without having to do anything to earn it; 4. you are allowed to dissipate energy by being angry at the perpetrator as a substitute for achieving efficacy in surmounting obstacles.

Looking at all the finger-pointing in Shaker Heights, it is obvious that the victim posture is still a default condition for explaining away failure.
"It's the teachers--no, it's the parents--no it's the peers--no it's the students attitudes---"

Put it all together and you have--the community as a whole, which would rather pin blame on each other than look at themselves, hiring "education experts" to help them avoid the hard work of creating a community of shared traditional values.

But Shaker Heights is an oasis of leftwing crackpots, so traditional values are taboo. They will just talk this to death, pat themselves on the back and move on, and the Black kids will continue to come up short.

And the oh so concerned Hysterics-on-the-Heights have no one to blame but themselves. All the idiot sociologists in academe can't change that one iota.
86 posted on 11/30/2002 9:51:40 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: ladylib
If this is the case, are these men's accomplishments being taught to black school children?

Well, sure they are. During Black History Month.

Of course, there's also the implicit message that these men aren't generally honored for their achievements, and we don't normally hear about them, because of our racist society - so what's the use?

When I teach about George Washington Carver, I like to "compare and contrast" the obstacles he faced in his achievements, and how he overcame them, with the advantages my students now have. Sometimes, some of them seem to "get it".

87 posted on 11/30/2002 10:16:29 AM PST by Amelia
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To: Fzob
the old "poverty" ruse.
sigh.
I was one of two children raised by a single mother and lived below the poverty line for my first ten years. My mother worked as many as three part-time jobs at a clip while supporting us and sending herself through first college and then medical school. Nonetheless, she still MADE the time needed to instill discipline in us and help us to learn the essential skills required in this society: linguistics, math, logic, reading skills, methods of study, prioritization, and diligence.
Though I do not expect all poor people to do as well as she did, nor all to turn out as well as both I and my sister did, I cannot accept the standard excuse of poverty = poor educational/academic performance.
88 posted on 11/30/2002 11:51:13 AM PST by demosthenes the elder
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To: superdestroyer
White/Asian children can easily outdistance black children because, on average, their parents spend more time, money, and effort giving their children a life experience that includes intellectual activites.

For that matter, Asian students pull ahead of whites because Asian family culture tends to be even more aggressively focused on education than whites'. Not that I think this is bad, of course.

89 posted on 11/30/2002 12:13:46 PM PST by valkyrieanne
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To: Teacher317
All these problems connect to the fact of compulsion, in the funding of and, more importantly, attendance of government schools.

How pathetic that a republic with citizens supposedly fit for self rule accept compulsion schooling.

90 posted on 11/30/2002 1:00:48 PM PST by secretagent
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To: kattracks
Those kinds of attitudes reflect a long history of adapting to oppression and stymied opportunities

As long as the external forces are held blame, nothing will change.

91 posted on 11/30/2002 1:14:54 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: superdestroyer
Care to still argue that it is all genetics? All genetics is "local."
92 posted on 11/30/2002 1:19:46 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: Clara Lou
We owe a lot of this attitude to Lyndon Johnson ...

At least you found a white male to shoulder the blame.

93 posted on 11/30/2002 1:22:34 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: kattracks
Was it 30 years ago that Daniel Patrick Moynahan recommended that the problem of black under-performance be treated with "benign neglect?"
Of course he was exscoriated for saying the unsayable at the time. But isn't that, what in effect, the best and brightest, most well intentioned members of white america have done?
After pouring how many trillions of dollars down every conceivable program of social uplift, and seeing very little, if any result, in terms of closing the black white gulf, they have decided to quietly give up on the problem.
They have moved away from racial engagement; both physically and mentally.
And who can blame them? Why waste your time and treasure on an intractable problem. Life's too short.
94 posted on 11/30/2002 1:40:14 PM PST by ricpic
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To: demosthenes the elder
Please don't take this personally but you're blowing smoke out of your ass.

Go dig up “Elmtowns Youth”. It's out there.

95 posted on 11/30/2002 1:59:13 PM PST by johnny7
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To: johnny7
you're blowing smoke out of your....

I don't know why you would say that. I lived a very similar childhood. Except there were 5 siblings in my house. It's a pretty common story so why you think its BS is a mystery to me. Did someone pee in your Cheerios today?

96 posted on 11/30/2002 2:12:55 PM PST by Fzob
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To: kattracks
What makes this guy's study very plausible is the fact that he studied rich blacks along side rich whites. That alone cuts out the reasons we usually hear as to why black students do inferior work to white.

Take this on for size. He infered that the blacks who did not do well in this school system did not do their homework. All kids, no matter the skin color, are going to do better than kids who don't do their homework.

I think this guy is spot on. It's high time we stopped blaming the problem on money or lack of money. With all that the moola we have poured into education for the last 30 or so years we should be seeing at least 50 national merit scholars coming out of each and every high school in the entire country.

97 posted on 11/30/2002 2:14:22 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: Fzob
I never replied to you... why is it that you don't make sense?

Why do you mention peeing?

99 posted on 11/30/2002 2:36:45 PM PST by johnny7
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To: collectingdust
If U.S. whites have an average IQ of 100, and U.S. blacks have an average IQ of 85 (one standard deviation less,) then one half of U.S. whites will have at least average intelligence, whereas only one sixth of U.S. blacks will. About one sixth of U.S. whites will have fairly high intelligence (IQ of 115 or higher,) but only one out of 20 U.S. blacks will. About one out of 20 U.S. whites will have quite high intelligence (IQ of 130 or higher,) whereas well below 1% of U.S. blacks will.
100 posted on 11/30/2002 2:45:32 PM PST by aristeides
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