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Knocking Godís party (Moyers, PBS hear from angry conservatives )
Current ^ | 12/6/02 | Dan Odenwald

Posted on 12/06/2002 8:29:05 PM PST by Drango

Knocking God’s party
Moyers, PBS hear from angry conservatives

Originally published in Current, Dec. 2, 2002
By Dan Odenwald

Bill Moyers came out swinging three days after the Nov. 5 midterm elections, and the target of his jabs—America’s right wing—came swinging back. Conservatives said he made a hysterical partisan attack on Republicans in his commentary on PBS’s Now with Bill Moyers Nov. 8 [2002].

Lamenting the GOP sweep of both houses of Congress, Moyers slammed the majority party’s agenda, which he believes will "force pregnant women to give up control over their own lives," use "taxing power to transfer wealth from working people to the rich" and give "corporations a free hand to eviscerate the environment."

The Now host also railed against the close ties between Republican leaders and the religious right. "If you like God in government," he told viewers, "get ready for the Rapture. These folks don’t even mind you referring to the GOP as the party of God."

To Current's home page
Earlier news: Christopher Lydon critiques Now, March 2002.
Later news: Moyers rebuts Bill O'Reilly of Fox News.
Outside links: text of Moyers' Nov. 8 remarks, PBS.org message boards about Moyers' show and response from the Rev. Louis Sheldon of the Traditional Values Coalition

Members of the CPB Board spoke out against bias in public broadcasting at the board’s next meeting, though they didn’t connect their remarks to Moyers’. The board unanimously voted to reaffirm pubcasting’s commitment to objectivity in program content.

"It is especially important in these extraordinary times for public broadcasting to provide information to the public about issues of national import in a manner that represents multiple points of view," the resolution states. "The Public Broadcasting Act recognizes the need to treat subjects of a controversial nature in a fair and balanced way."

Moyers’ comments provoked hostile replies from conservative Republicans and their allies, including Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly, the Wall Street Journal and the Traditional Values Coalition, still smarting over its dust-up with NPR last year.

Moyers watchers are used to such slugfests. Since PBS launched Now to bolster its public affairs offerings after the September 2001 attacks, conservatives have objected to the show as nothing more than a platform for Moyers’ liberal views. They say Moyers slants the show to fit the ideology of the Johnson administration, in which he worked decades ago.

"Every time I hear one of Parson Moyers’ sermons, it reminds me that he came to public attention as head flack for Lyndon B. Johnson," wrote Robert Bartley, longtime head of the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal, who has sparred with Moyers on the show.

"Moyers’ anti-Christian bigotry is nothing new," wrote Rev. Louis P. Sheldon, chairman of the Traditional Values Coalition. He "has a skewed view of Christianity but this shouldn’t surprise us. He has drunk deeply from the well of spiritual syncretism through the writings of the late occultist Joseph Campbell."

"Moyers has been on the stump making charges and using hyperventilated language for years," said Jim Weidman, a spokesman for the conservative Heritage Foundation. "But typically he’s doing that in the privacy of a lecture hall rather than on PBS."

Weekly Standard columnist Stephen F. Hayes said it wasn’t worth the effort to chide Moyers, arguing that the PBS journalist is irrelevant. "The tragedy of Bill Moyers is that very few people watch him these days," he wrote.

Now’s audience is about the size of the network’s other public affairs programs—about half the size of its primetime average.

Moyers asserts he’s beholden to no one and criticizes both Democrats and Repub-licans for sucking up to campaign donors at the expense of the environment, the poor and democracy in general.

John Siceloff, executive producer of Now, says its driving force is not liberal bias but the belief that important stories are being ignored in other media outlets.

Viewers are inundated with information about the moment, but there’s no analysis or consideration of what it means, he said. Now makes judgments about what’s wrong with America and tells people why they ought to care, Siceloff added. "We don’t shy away from stories that will create controversy."

Nor does Moyers shy away from sharing his opinions about those stories. His fiery post-election remarks—labeled as commentary during the final moments of the Nov. 8 broadcast—stung opponents.

The piece generated both favorable and unfavorable postings on Now’s website, conservative web forums and PBS Express, public TV’s internal e-mail system. Programmers worried that Moyers’ comments will give ammunition to critics of public TV who assume a liberal bias in everything it does.

Many of those same programmers are also concerned with Moyers’ topic and guest selection, said Tom Holter, executive director of programming for Twin Cities PTV. They fear it reveals a liberal bias and excludes alternative viewpoints, which could threaten state and federal aid to public TV.

Holter said some programmers disapprove of Moyers concluding the show with his opinion pieces, which may lead viewers to mistrust the reporting presented earlier in the program.

Siceloff maintains that conservatives frequently appear on Now and that Moyers seeks to tease the truth out of difficult subjects rather than serve up lefty spin. Viewers are smart enough to separate the factual reporting and the labeled commentaries, the producer said.

No personal agendas, please

The flap over the Nov. 8 commentary came while CPB was wrapping up a yearlong effort to re-examine its commitment to objectivity and balance, said CPB President Bob Coonrod.

CPB has studied objectivity issues in pubcasting overseas and plans to solicit viewer feedback about program content. The corporation has also commissioned a project to revisit ethical guidelines for public radio news producers.

These efforts culminated in the editorial integrity resolution passed Nov. 19, Coonrod said.

High standards for objectivity and balance "cannot always be reconciled within the context of a single program or program segment," Coonrod said at the board meeting. "Instead we strive for overall fairness, while leaving room for the eccentric, the provocative, and even the oddball."

Public affairs producers have a duty to be impartial, said CPB Board Chairwoman Katherine Anderson. Like Coonrod, she believes it’s difficult to prescribe an exact formula for balancing reports.

But Anderson sees a good model for fair reporting on PBS: "I think many years ago, the MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour set the bar for integrity and balance," she said in response to questions from Current. "It would be my goal for the entire public broadcasting system to become known for the kind of standard of balance that that program has achieved."

Coonrod believes it’s an art—not a science—to make judgments about balance and objectivity.

"I don’t think of it in quantitative terms," Coonrod said. Producers aim to "highlight important issues but try not to tell people what to think about them."

"In order to be credible, we have to be fair and balanced, but we also recognize that nobody’s perfect," Coonrod said.

Part of CPB’s role is to solicit feedback—both good and bad—on the programs it funds and to share that with the system and Congress, Coonrod added.

Members of Congress and their staffs are more than willing to let CPB know what they think of public broadcasting’s programming, Coonrod said. The system welcomes legitimate criticism.

But CPB also serves to protect stations from undue interference, Coonrod said. It’s one of the reasons the annual CPB appropriation is advance-funded by two years—so reactions to today’s editorial decisions don’t threaten tomorrow’s funding.

In time, however, the system must be responsive to Congress, Anderson maintains. Time spent dealing with perceptions of unfairness and bias means time not spent on other initiatives, Anderson said.

At a House oversight hearing in July, pubcasting execs spent most of their time deflecting charges of bias in public broadcasting when they had planned to use the rare hearing to argue for more DTV conversion aid.

"I happen to think all producers should operate in a political vacuum," Anderson said. "What we don’t want is producers who arrive with a political agenda."

Moyers’ mission: be tough

CPB chose not to back Now when PBS asked for support more than a year ago. Coonrod said CPB wanted to devote its scarce resources to other post-Sept. 11 programming, including extended episodes of the NewsHour and Washington Week as well as a series of one-on-one interviews hosted by Moyers.

PBS charged ahead without CPB aid, recruiting Moyers for the first year of Now and designating the show for common carriage on Friday nights. Today, the show is funded by PBS, Mutual of America Life Insurance Co. and foundations. The network also brought in NPR News, which regularly contributes reports to the TV program. The New York Times frequently contributes reports based on big investigative stories.

PBS President Pat Mitchell encouraged the show’s producers to "be tough," Siceloff said. Now was designed to offer a fresh alternative to PBS’s public affairs menu.

That said, the show’s producers aren’t looking in the rearview mirror to monitor what else is on the PBS schedule so they can balance their own reporting, Siceloff said. Ultimately, the responsibility to achieve an impartial schedule rests at Braddock Place, he said.

The network appears to be satisfied. This summer, network execs renewed Now for another year, and Moyers agreed to continue headlining the show. He said initially he would leave after one year.

PBS programming chiefs John Wilson and Coby Atlas defended the show after Moyers’ Nov. 8 commentary. "Commentary by definition is meant to be provocative," they wrote to station executives. "It’s designed to challenge and provoke discussion. Bill’s commentary certainly did that." The dialogue of negative and positive reactions from viewers "is exactly what should happen in public broadcasting," they said.

The Moyers program is just one element of the more than six hours of public affairs programming public TV airs each week, they said. Many stations also carry the McLaughlin Group, which is a half hour "almost exclusively devoted to McLaughlin’s view of the world," they wrote.

In an interview with Current, Atlas said there’s controversy "whenever somebody takes a stand" and letting people say what’s on their mind is "what democracy is all about."

Siceloff said Moyers’ occasional commentaries add, not detract, from the show. "We feel the show is strengthened by Moyers’ version of what the events are, and we clearly label it as commentary. As a public citizen, he has the right to speak out," he said.

He said most political journalism focuses on the Democratic-Republican horse race without noting the underlying policy differences. Now attempts to go beyond partisan labels and criticize both parties.

Siceloff said the program gets slammed from both conservatives and liberals, each arguing the show is slanted toward the other side.

"We have a core mission to take on the urgent issues of the day," he argued. "There will be times when our take on democracy will make somebody hopping mad."

Some of those offended come within public TV’s own ranks. Moyers makes PBS his own "private soapbox," said Allen Harmon, president of WDSE in Duluth, Minn. It would be preferable for "PBS to produce a public affairs program that didn’t have such obvious bias," he said. "We can do good journalism without the opinion."

Harmon said he’s uncomfortable with Moyers’ commentaries because they taint the journalism presented elsewhere in the program. The station exec thinks Now is excellent but worries about the credibility of the network when its most prominent journalist states his views so emphatically.

The Idaho network has received no complaints about the show, said Ron Pisaneschi, Idaho PTV’s director of broadcasting. Though Now isn’t always balanced by itself, there are plenty of conservatives on public TV, he added.

Shows such as Washington Week and The McLaughlin Group regularly feature reporters sharing their opinions about the stories they cover, he said.

Questions about bias are almost always in the eye of the beholder, according to PBS. A 2002-2003 survey of opinion leaders by Erdos and Morgan, a major market research firm, found that America’s most influential people held that the NewsHour, Frontline, Now and Washington Week were the four most credible public affairs shows on TV.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: billmoyers; liberalmedia; pbs
I'm soooooooo gonna hurl....
1 posted on 12/06/2002 8:29:05 PM PST by Drango
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To: Drango
I listen to some public radio - some of the good, easy listening "background" music - but their politics stinks - with the vast majority of their shows hosted by very liberal, socialistic minded people. For that reason, I don't contribute.
2 posted on 12/06/2002 8:36:42 PM PST by RAY
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To: Drango
Bill Moyers is originally from Harrison Co., TX. Harrison Co. was once yellow-dog Democrat country. But this year it voted for Perry and Cornyn over the Democrat "Dream Team."
This must have alienated Bill even more from the people where he grew up -- Marshall, TX. Maybe with Bill gone permanently from Marshall the people are free to exercise some independent judgment without his overbearing defense of Democrats and "our democracy." Remember, Bill also devised the "Daisy" ad against Goldwater in 1964. For years, the ascerbic Goldwater said that Moyers still made him "sick to my stomach."
3 posted on 12/06/2002 8:40:58 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: RAY
I saw a little bit pf Moyers tonight...something about Henry Kissinger being a criminal....no black helicopters though. LOL!
4 posted on 12/06/2002 8:42:15 PM PST by anncoulteriscool
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To: Drango
DO NOT support public radio if you consider yourself a conservative - you are directly paying for liberal stories meant to twist the truth.

5 posted on 12/06/2002 8:43:14 PM PST by txzman
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To: Drango
I agree with the guy who said that Moyers is "irrelevant".
However, this pathetic old drunk Moyers is relevant as long as he is absconding in any way with public tax dollars, and that is what he is doing whenver he appears on PBS.
6 posted on 12/06/2002 8:48:27 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: txzman
Better yet, push for the defunding of NPR, PBS and the Legal Services Corporation.

Many Conservatives seem to feel that these institutions can be turned and, besides, they hate to see their favorite programs lost through slashed budgets. In my view, correcting the inbred leftism in these institutions is a hopeless cause - better to redeem the Democratic Party. It would seem that a reluctance lose a favorite program or two interferes with the need to decisively land body blows on a major propaganda voice of the American left.
7 posted on 12/06/2002 8:54:32 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: txzman
However I love to listen in for FREE. It's kind of like having the enemys battle plan.

Be sure to call in at pledge time to tell them why you don't donate to their liberal biased agenda station.

8 posted on 12/06/2002 8:59:24 PM PST by Newbomb Turk
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To: Drango
Bill Moyers is a worthless socialist windbag. But, the person who gave the title to this article is equally clueless. Politicizing God is just plain stupid. Republicans don't own God anymore than fundamentalists own Jesus.
9 posted on 12/06/2002 9:03:27 PM PST by LiberalBuster
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To: RAY
I listen to some public radio - some of the good, easy listening "background" music - but their politics stinks - with the vast majority of their shows hosted by very liberal, socialistic minded people. For that reason, I don't contribute.

Yes, you do--with your tax dollars!

10 posted on 12/06/2002 9:04:53 PM PST by Calpublican
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To: Drango
use "taxing power to transfer wealth from working people to the rich"

Anyone who still uses this tired cliche must have his head up his clymer.

Wealth redistribution is sooooo 60s...

11 posted on 12/06/2002 9:07:22 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: Newbomb Turk
Be sure to call in at pledge time to tell them why you don't donate to their liberal biased agenda station.

Oooohhh! Great idea! We should ALL call in frequently and tie up the phone lines.

12 posted on 12/06/2002 9:07:27 PM PST by Calpublican
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To: Theodore R.
" Remember, Bill also devised the "Daisy" ad against Goldwater in 1964. For years, the ascerbic Goldwater said that Moyers still made him "sick to my stomach."

I thought he was also JFK's press secretary. (..or something like that.)

13 posted on 12/06/2002 9:17:55 PM PST by blam
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To: Drango
We should have killed PBS and NPR when we had the chance.
14 posted on 12/06/2002 9:19:55 PM PST by clintonh8r
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To: WorkingClassFilth
"...they hate to see their favorite programs lost through slashed budgets."

If their favorite programs are soooo good, they will survive in the private market.

15 posted on 12/06/2002 9:24:16 PM PST by goodnesswins
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To: Drango
Questions about bias are almost always in the eye of the beholder, according to PBS. A 2002-2003 survey of opinion leaders by Erdos and Morgan, a major market research firm, found that America’s most influential people held that the NewsHour, Frontline, Now and Washington Week were the four most credible public affairs shows on TV.

In other words, a poll of people, many of whom are in the government, receive government grants (handouts), or otherwise have close ties to big government have annointed these PBS shows as "most credible". Talk about a skewed audience from whom to draw your conclusions about PBS bias...

16 posted on 12/06/2002 9:24:40 PM PST by The Electrician
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To: goodnesswins
I agree, but you might be suprised how otherwise sane Conservatives will shrink from killing these golden calves. Well, they say, there are a lot of good programs there - blah, blah, blah. Sure there are, but they played classical music in the death camps too, wanna go there for vacation?
17 posted on 12/06/2002 9:29:01 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: Drango
Moyers calls Bill O'Reilly a liar at a far left wing rat news web site this week!
18 posted on 12/06/2002 9:40:52 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: blam
He was LBJ's and I think Pierre Salinger was JFK's. Anyone else?
19 posted on 12/06/2002 9:45:52 PM PST by breakem
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To: Drango
National Public Radio is literally liberal, left-wing, college professor Drivel 101 lectured to the masses in attendance.

The government should get out of the Radio Business if NPR is the best in objectivity. Living overseas and hearing NPR on Armed Forces Radio gives me a reason to purchase music CDs.... I cannot stand the biased democrat agenda and I am long past listening to it just to try to understand the opposition - because the opposition, e.g., the democrates stand for nothing and will change their turn while remaining on the attack against anything they oppose; the democrats and liberals have no core values other than to whine and lie, if necessary - all it fair in war and politics.

20 posted on 12/06/2002 10:06:40 PM PST by Jumper
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To: Lancey Howard
"I agree with the guy who said that Moyers is "irrelevant". However, this pathetic old drunk Moyers is relevant as long as he is absconding in any way with public tax dollars, and that is what he is doing whenver he appears on PBS."

And Tommy D. whines about Rush. The Democratic Socialists have a lot in common with the Islamists...both demand 100% compliance, or death to the infidels.

Moyers also personally profits royally through his private industry of publication and sale of all of the works tax dollars paid to create. A Conservative doing the same would have been dragged over the coals by the liberal media to the point the the public would believe they were on a par with Osama Bin Laden. Because he trumpets the Party Line, though, this matter is a non-issue.

21 posted on 12/06/2002 10:10:23 PM PST by intolerancewillNOTbetolerated
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To: Theodore R.
Didn't know that. Thanks. I wonder if the people of Marshall will ever build a monumment in his honor.
22 posted on 12/06/2002 10:29:09 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Drango
"Members of the CPB Board spoke out against bias in public broadcasting

"The board unanimously voted to reaffirm pubcasting’s commitment to objectivity in program content."

They were joking, of course.

(Even they couldn't do that with a straight face.)

"He has drunk deeply from the well of spiritual syncretism"

But...what else would you expect? Of a cretin?

23 posted on 12/06/2002 10:54:37 PM PST by Savage Beast
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To: txzman
"DO NOT support public radio if you consider yourself a conservative - you are directly paying for liberal stories meant to twist the truth."

DO NOT support public radio if you do NOT consider yourself a conservative, either.

24 posted on 12/06/2002 10:58:02 PM PST by Savage Beast
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To: WorkingClassFilth
but you might be suprised how otherwise sane Conservatives will shrink from killing these golden calves.

Indeed! Click on my name, and at the bottom of my profile is a list of 100 Republicans who voted NOT to reduce Public Broadcasting just one percente!

25 posted on 12/07/2002 2:57:35 AM PST by Drango
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To: Drango
Hey Drango! Great personal page!

To all: If the PBS/NPR tax theft scam for leftist propagandization bugs you, then check out Drango's list of guilty Republicans that couldn't bring themselves to do the 'Right' thing.

The rubber will meet the road for Conservatives when we insist that our legislators act in accordance with our principles. Until then we're only playing ping-pong with an enemy that is determined to kill our freedoms, our nation and, given enough power, those that resist their ultimate goals.

If you don't see the problem, you may return to your regularly scheduled programming...
26 posted on 12/07/2002 6:04:54 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: blam
The JFK press secretary was Pierre Salinger. Salinger stayed in the post under LBJ for a short time but resigned to run for the U.S. Senate from CA. He lost to Republican George L. Murphy, even as the LBJ-HHH ticket was sweeping CA. Salinger was later an ABC correspondent for many years and was considered an "expert" in international affairs. Moyers was Salinger's successor, but there may have been someone between Salinger and Moyers. Moyers was to LBJ as Karl Rove is to GWB.
27 posted on 12/07/2002 6:25:33 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Thanks...

Public Broadcasting survives with bi-partisan support. Many Freepers would be surprised to find "conservative" Republicans funding PBS/NPR but clearly they do.

28 posted on 12/07/2002 6:28:38 AM PST by Drango
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To: Calpublican
RIGHT!
29 posted on 12/07/2002 6:34:00 AM PST by RAY
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Here is the KEY congressional committee that funds PBS/NPR. Anyone in Ralph Regula's Ohio district should send him a note as he will control the agenda.

Subcommittee on Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education  (top)
2358 Rayburn HOB
Washington, D.C. 20515-6024

Ralph Regula, Ohio, Chairman David R. Obey, Wisconsin
C.W. Bill Young, Florida Steny H. Hoyer, Maryland
Ernest J. Istook, Jr., Oklahoma Nancy Pelosi, California
Dan Miller, Florida Nita M. Lowey, New York
Roger F. Wicker, Mississippi Rosa DeLauro, Connecticut
Anne Northup, Kentucky Jesse L. Jackson, Jr., Illinois
Randy "Duke" Cunningham, California Patrick J. Kennedy, Rhode Island
Kay Granger, Texas
John E. Peterson, Pennsylvania
Don Sherwood, Pennsylvania

Subcommittee on Legislative  (top)

30 posted on 12/07/2002 6:47:55 AM PST by Drango
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To: Drango
Durango, Thanks for the great information on PBS/NPR funding!

To all, check Durango's page for MORE detailed information on this topic. Check the roll call for the 1% funding reduction amendment for NPR/PBS. Your legislator might have taken the courageous (?) position of shrinking from the deep (1% for cryin' out loud) cuts in the interests of keeping Big Bird Bill Moyers on the air.
31 posted on 12/07/2002 6:54:14 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: Theodore R.
". Salinger was later an ABC correspondent for many years and was considered an "expert" in international affairs. Moyers was Salinger's successor, but there may have been someone between Salinger and Moyers. Moyers was to LBJ as Karl Rove is to GWB."

Okay. Guess I'm wrong. I've been associating Moyers with JFK.

32 posted on 12/07/2002 7:40:34 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
I don't think Moyers strutted on the national political stage until LBJ became president. He may have had a role though with the vice presidency of LBJ.
33 posted on 12/07/2002 7:50:00 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Drango
High standards for objectivity and balance "cannot always be reconciled within the context of a single program or program segment," Coonrod said at the board meeting.

Moyers is not "a single program."

34 posted on 12/07/2002 7:54:21 AM PST by JimVT
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To: WorkingClassFilth
I just found this link to Public Broadcasting where they seriously claim they are NOT biased. ~SNORT

CPB link

http://www.cpb.org/about/reports/objectivity/01_obj_balance.pdf

35 posted on 12/07/2002 8:07:28 AM PST by Drango
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To: Drango
"The Public Broadcasting Act recognizes the need to treat subjects of a controversial nature in a fair and balanced way."

Let me see if I've got this right. When a majority of the electorate vote for Republicans, it's a "subject of controversial nature?"

36 posted on 12/07/2002 8:14:35 AM PST by Texas Jack
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To: Drango
Great link - bookmarked for a later. closer. read.

In the section on 'objectivity and balance' they cite their awards and stats that stay on tune with the song they sing. It reminded me of a photograph I once saw of a nest of snakes. The snakes squirmed over, under, around and through each other in a hideous knot of reptilian unity. This is the human equivalent.
37 posted on 12/07/2002 8:22:22 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: Publius6961
Moyers should know...he's one of them(RICH). He's also spoiled and arrogant.
38 posted on 12/07/2002 8:42:13 AM PST by kcvl
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