The Lott Problem & A Solution

The Democrat Party's Long and Shameful History of Bigotry and Racism ^

[Republican_Strategist]

No, she is quite right. The Liberal Dominated Media is creating a firestorm and it started with Al Gore and the Black Caucus is all over this. I’m saying we should fight the Democrats on this, we should make the cases about double standards, and then we should get Lott out of the way because he is definitely not conservative enough and he is a poor leader.

And of course liberals are eating up Bush’s comments, but you trust the guy to handle it. They love seeing republicans berating a republican over remarks thought to be “racist.”

[patriciaruth]

YOU are the ones in lockstep with the DEMS attacking Lott and saying he should be fired. Some strategy! What a maroon!

[Republican_Strategist]

No, you are simply a RINO. You some how strayed over to the Republican Party and you need to return to the other side. And your examples of why you aren’t calling yourself a conservative is precisely why you’re liberal. Conservatives actually believe that we have the freedom of speech to condemn homosexuals for their disgusting behavior and the Waffen PC that you seem to be part of tries to turn our moral outrage into actions like stoning them.

So sue me if I believe that America is a sovereign nation, a republican that can control its on border. Excuse me for not endorsing your global village and just letting everyone wonder over when they please. But no, you have to turn that position into some paranoid rant about be wanting to shoot those puh-poor illegal immigrants flooding over here.

Conservatism and Christianity go hand in hand.

[Admin Moderator]

I believe that to be a conservative you have to be in favor of stoning gays and shooting Mexican men and women at the border

That is a very strange belief. That isn't what conservatism is about, nor is it what this website is about. Thanks, AM

[Republican_Strategist]

I’d say you’d give James Carville a run for his money when it comes to insanity. Your interpretations of my thread is about as good as Clinton’s interpretation of the law.

[GiovannaNicoletta]

I would like the non-stop Republican refrain on the Sunday shows to be:

"Yes, when Senator Thurman was a Democrat in 1948, he was, like the Democrat party at that time in our nation's history, a strong segregationist. Senator Thurman came to a point in his life when he began to disagree with his Democrat segregationists beliefs, and that was the period in his life when he became a Republican.

Senator Lott, while understandibly trying to honor Senator Thurman on his 100th birthday, made some unfortunate remarks that rehashed a painful time in our history. Senator Lott has never shown himself to be a racist, and I think that it does the country no good in our journey toward racial harmony for the Democrats, who not only have one Senator who was a high-ranking member of a hateful racist organization and who is now in a powerful leadership position in the Democrat party, but who also have not a few members of their party, including an ex-president, who have made racist comments and have honored racists during their tenure in public service, to try to destroy Senator Lott because of a comment he made that does not come close to what some leaders in the Democrat party have said about various groups of people in this country."

As long as the Republicans sit back and let the historically racist Democrats continue to hammer them on this stupid comment of Lott's, while saying nothing about the Democrat's own documented racism, the Republican party will be unfairly tarred with the racist label and the rats will use this to get illegitimately what they could not win at the ballot box.

Republicans, especially President Bush, must go on the offensive about this and put this issue to bed or they might very well find themselves in the minority again. They must say publically that they accept Senator Lott's apology, and in the interests of harmony, will now be concentrating on the business of the nation.

It's time to be ruthless and it's time to go on offense. The rats will not let go of this until they are illegitimately in the majority again. Is that what we want? Is that what the President wants?

[The Raven]

"...We will not, and we must not, rest until every person of every race believes in the promise of America because they see it in their own eyes, with their own eyes, and they live it and feel it in their own lives."

--G Bush

[patriciaruth]

Oh, really, you're the one who wants to show balls with the DEMS and your first strategy is to throw them Lott's head? And I'm the RINO?

What specific core platform issue is it that a REPUBLICAN, (not a CONSERVATIVE) must believe or they are a Republican in Name Only?????

What is the difference between a Republican and a Conservative? I know they are not the same. I know you are a conservative (or a Democrat mole) and not a Republican because you don't like President Bush. True Republicans like President Bush.

I'm am not a RINO, and you are not a Republican at all.

[Republican_Strategist]

No, the Democrats want to make Lott a scapegoat for their failed election cycle and this is how they kick off the new year. They want to turn the Republican Party into the “Racist Party.” I said I want republicans to fight Democrats and their attacks on Lott, but I want them to get rid of Lott for his poor leadership and his swaying from conservatism. You need to quit defending Lott like Democrats defended Clinton because you are only hurting republicans.

[patriciaruth]

This is my ironic way of noting what the difference between me and the aggressive purist conservatives seem to be. I know there are many, probably most conservatives, who don't believe like this, but they are not often the ones on these threads calling for the disembowelment of Republicans, and at the moment I am clarifying why I would never dare call myself conservative in the company of people such as these.

I am a Republican and a Christian, and that often gives me common cause with conservatives, but I don't pretend to be a purist conservative because they have defined themselves in ways that I cannot.

[patriciaruth]

So, will you caution me if I add that I can't be a conservative because I believe that women should have the right to vote? Tm22721 is not the only one who has made this remark in the last months. And I'm sure he probably thinks I'm not a conservative as I don't go along with that sort of thinking either.

[Republican_Strategist]

Well, the problem is that we have people like you infiltrating the Republican Party and Conservative Forums. You then try to assume that you speak for republicans and conservatives and the fact is you don’t represent us.

So instead of Bush abolishing income, he gave us a small, back loaded tax cut that cut 6 million low income families who will no longer care about how much democrats want to raise it. The bottom 50% pay less than 4% of federal income tax and they get the largest cuts. The burden on those making over $100,000 and up increased from 70% to over 74% and I consider that shining example of conservatism as much as I consider it the lesser of two evils.

Did you also support his increases in Education spending through the unconstitutional Department of Education? His Education Bill was written by Teddy Kennedy and we all know his conservative credentials.

Did you support his signing of the unconstitutional campaign finance reform bill?

Did you support his federalizing airline workers?

Do you agree with him making a deal not to prosecute the Clintons? He basically let them skate off. I remember he did a snap shot with Hillary while she holds press conferences saying he knew about 9/11.

Why bother mentioning the Farm Bill? I’m just giving examples of Bush’s liberal streak and it is infiltrators like you that want to cement that and make that the “right wing.”

[Republican_Strategist]

I suppose I’ll thank you for contributing to the efforts made by democrats to pull the Republican Party to the left so their socialist agenda looks moderate, divide republicans, and ruin an entire post with your ramblings about conservatives being “purists” because they don’t want spineless, phony conservatives like Lott leading the Party.

[Admin Moderator]

99.95% (or more) of conservatives do not believe the things you ascribe to conservatives. My point is that you are painting with an extremely broad brush, and in so doing you are insulting some very good people. I responded on the thread because someone had hit abuse on your comment number 19. I wanted to explain to you why it would be construed as such. Thanks, AM

[MeekOneGOP]

Can anyone remember Jesse Jackson saying "hymietown" or Hillary Clinton saying "Jew b*****d" or Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante (D-CA) saying "n****r labor organization?"

And none of them said it at a hundred year old birthday party.

....or THIS one while we're at it:

Byrd said in part, "I think we try to have good will. My old mom told me, `Robert, you can't go to heaven if you hate anybody.' We practice that. There are white ni**ers. I've seen a lot of white ni**ers in my time. I'm going to use that word."

Former KKK Clansman,
Senator Robert Byrd…...

[Young Rhino]

Conservatism and Christianity go hand in hand.

I spent many years working for national conservative candidates and conservative causes, the latter including a stint helping the Nicaraguan Contras.

I consistently vote GOP, but now consider myself a small "L" libertarian. Why?

As a Deist, I find revealed religions such as Christianity to serve no rational purpose except to dupe the masses in a quest for power. Your precious Bible was created from a collection of fables by the Council of Nicea pursuant to the order of Emperor Constantine. Its sole purpose was to consolidate his power by combining Christian sects with paganism, and making the emperor the representative of the mythical Christ on earth. King James took a page or two from Constantine's playbook, and created his own version for political purposes. The church continued to combine pagan fables as a means to convert natives in the Carribean and Latin America. The result includes Christian beliefs that combine Santeria, Umbanda, and Candomble. Sacrificed any chickens or prayed to an orixa lately with your Christian brothers to the south?

By comparison, Machiavelli was an amateur. The funny thing is that dupes like you continue to believe in the emperor's dream 1700 years after he died. What is not funny is the attempt by Christian leaders to assume power via the GOP using the same stupid collection of fables.

[patriciaruth]

So instead of Bush abolishing income, he gave us a small, back loaded tax cut that cut 6 million low income families who will no longer care about how much democrats want to raise it.

So you don't believe in tax cuts? Or you are angry that you didn't get the whole pie the first time out and are blaming me?

Did you also support his increases in Education spending through the unconstitutional Department of Education? His Education Bill was written by Teddy Kennedy and we all know his conservative credentials.

So you don't believe in forcing liberal teachers to start teaching facts instead of liberalism? You want to just let them continue to control brainwashing our children? We didn't have control of the Senate when compromises were made to get the bill through that begins to challenge liberal control of education.

Did you support his signing of the unconstitutional campaign finance reform bill?

I sent a contribution to the NRA to fight it and the Supreme Court will be hearing the case this next session.

Did you support his federalizing airline workers?

Neither the President nor I supported this idea but our representatives voted for it.

Do you agree with him making a deal not to prosecute the Clintons? He basically let them skate off. I remember he did a snap shot with Hillary while she holds press conferences saying he knew about 9/11.

The President made a deal to not prosecute the Clintons? Funny, I thought Ken Starr was the one who did that.

Why bother mentioning the Farm Bill?

The Farm Bill was the price we paid to gain control of the Senate, so we could get judges confirmed.

Now, let's face it, "Republican", you ain't no Republican. You hate the Republican President who is the most popular President in Republican history. You spent all your firepower on a Republican instead of Democrats. You are a conservative purist, not a Republican. Your hero is probably PJB or some other disloyal Republican.

[patriciaruth]

I agree with you. But I am also very upset that so many people at this forum will not allow me to consider myself a conservative, let alone a simple Republican, because I do not hold their extreme views.