Frist a Major Shareholder in Reputed For-Profit Abortion Provider

Human Events ^ | 12-20-02 | Terry Jeffrey

[Howlin]

I'm with you, somebody new........but not McConnell.....I don't like him for some reason.

[The Old Hoosier]

If you don't mind, I would prefer that a woman who couldn't say no to a man and ended up an unwed mother NOT pray for me.

You see, this is the kind of thing you get when you can't make an argument.

[Bella_Bru]

like Frist who said he's for legal abortion

His voting record says different. Or are you leaping to that from the fact that he is a shareholder?

I have been treated at hospitals that perform aboryions. I guess by using your logic, that makes me an abortion supporter.

[PianoMan]

My shift's over, I'm heading home, good night from 30 Rock.

[Howlin]

You're hilarious. You want to tell us all we're going to hell if we don't agree with you, and meanwhile, we find out that the very people on here sanctimoniously pontificating are just as guilty of "sin" as the people you're trashing.

As I said, I'd prefer not to be prayed over by hypocrites.

[Reagan Man]

>>>I'm a conservative. I love family values. I'm for the three exceptions. Sue me.

There's a big difference between abortion on demand and favoring the "three exceptions". One is pro-choice and the other is 93% pro-life. If Frist is getting profits from abortions on demand, that isn't pro-life and doesn't support President Bushes belief in the right to life for all human beings.

[RJCogburn]

is it also disqualifying for their Senate leader to make money from a hospital chain that denies unborn babies the right to life?

Not one bit.

[The Old Hoosier]

Not the same thing at all. If I own stock in the company and thus profit from abortion, and claim I'm pro-life, and people repeatedly bring it up throughout my career but I don't divest myself, then I think that raises some questions about whether I'm sincere in my stated beliefs.

But Frist did say he would not want to make abortion illegal. By all definitions, that's not a pro-life stance. And if he's had a change of heart, why does he own more than $5 million in a stock that allows him to profit directly from abortions?

[The Old Hoosier]

You want to tell us all we're going to hell if we don't agree with you, and meanwhile, we find out that the very people on here sanctimoniously pontificating are just as guilty of "sin" as the people you're trashing.

OK, where did I say that? Let's see it.

[zencycler]

FRIST PAYS FEDERAL INCOME TAXES, WHICH ARE SOMETIMES USED TO FUND ABORTIONS!

[Dat]

So should we all get behind a republican that supports high taxes, but on all other issues is conservative?

[The Old Hoosier]

Where did I say anyone is going to hell?

[Bella_Bru]

Then I guess we are all evil.

[spunkets]

"FRIST PAYS FEDERAL INCOME TAXES, WHICH ARE SOMETIMES USED TO FUND ABORTIONS!"

How are fed taxes used to fund abortions?

[The Old Hoosier]

You make up your own straw man, then pummel him and point to the mess as if you've made a point.

[truth_seeker]

"People with no principles have trouble with the Nazis because they don't like the idea of absolute right and wrong."

Are you saying that YOU have principles, and DON'T have trouble with the Nazis, because the Nazis had the idea of absolute right and wrong?"

One could reasonably understand your comment, thusly.

[Bella_Bru]

I'm pretty certain some of the companies I own stock in are somehow linked to HCA somehow. Look at that list that was provided in an earlier post. I am not about to dump my stocks.

[The Old Hoosier]

"FRIST PAYS FEDERAL INCOME TAXES, WHICH ARE SOMETIMES USED TO FUND ABORTIONS!"

Unfortunately, that is true. But of course, it's not the same thing, either. If your money goes to help some guy dub porn tapes in the Senate recording room (true story, happened this week and he got caught), it's not something you willingly paid up for.

[The Old Hoosier]

No, I meant that that's why that USENET rule exists--to prevent substantive discussion of right and wrong. The Nazis are an obvious example of wrong. But Osama can fill in the blank just as well.

[The Old Hoosier]

Well, that's something you can choose to look at or not. But you're not a politician claiming to be pro-life either.