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Posted on 12/25/2002 12:05:09 AM PST by Stavka2
FYI: You better have some facts to back up what you say because if not people here will just bash you ?
Cheers,
Lloyd
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--Boris
After that, the questions devolve in to hypotheticals and rhetoricals. I wonder what value the answers to most of the questions would have? For the most part they are questions about actions between 3rd parties. Do we honestly expect the administration to be proactively answering such questions? How would this be done? I mean what, you want Karl Rove to call a press conference about Turkey? Or perhaps they should post "position papers" on the whitehouse.gov website? This probably would be US hegemony.
North Korea has nukes and WMD and therefore we we will NEVER threaten to attack it, NEVER pressure it with war talk, NEVER humiliate its leadership and WILL NOT attack it at will. We will even allow it to finish deliveries on scud missiles we seize on the high seas to Yemen.
This sends a very clear message heard round the world; If you do not have nukes and WMD the USA will treat you like Yugoslavia and Iraq if you develop nukes and WMD (and the ability to deliver them) in time you will be treated with distance and respect like we treat Pakistan, and North Korea.
That is why I know Iraq does not have online nukes (chemical and bio weapons are 19th century technology so it is very possible the Iraqis can make and use them with little difficulty) at the moment because we are bullying Iraq around at will UNLIKE how we are treating North Korea.
Frightening, ain't it?
Yes but from where, taxation, deficit spending. And how will this in the end be made up for?
Democracy. We always put in Democracies
I wish this was true, but hardly. Through out Africa and S. America, the US has supported dictatorial strong men. In Iran, the democratic government was overthrown with the aid of the CIA and the Sha installed. In Greece, the US supported the Regime of the Colonels: a militacracy. In Pakistan it's the same.
Negotiating what?
Negotiating the future Iraqi government.
If they had our blessing when they declared independence we would probably stop the slaughter.
As it stands, we protect the Kurds from the Iraqies but the Turks go on annual Kurd hunts with thousands of soldiers.
Since Saddam is such a mad dog and has had chemical weapons for over twenty years, why hasn't he launched them on Israel? Because Israel has nukes and isn’t afraid to use them.
It's funny, since everyone recognizes this as reality, yet when it comes to the US that doesn't have 200 nukes but on the order of 10,000 , the logic seems to break down and Saddam turns into a raving lunatic out for self destruction. Socialists are rarely such, to find the raving lunatics, look south to the religeous nut jobs, called Saudies.
A couple of predators will stop any Taliban offensive. The Taliban have already been defeated.
Funny, for a bunch of defeated guys, they still tie down a US division and other international forces and still cause a slow rate of attrition. Not to mention almost daily rocket attacks. As for Pakistan, why would they aim at India and not America. Consider that it was Pakistani intelligence that created and supported the Taliban and Al Quida, along with Saudi Arabia (both by the way, "moderate and good allies" of America). What is it to say they don't sail a ship into NYC harbor with a nuke?
Why are foreign software engineers still being hired and imported at autrocious rates while domestic workers sit in unemployement? They aren’t. The companies are currently using them in their own countries.
Wrong, the number of visas is still going up.
Why are Mexicans still being supported as illegals in the US? Because the Democrats want their votes.
Wrong again, Republicans have been in power for 2 years now and have had control of the Congress for almost 5, yet the process is accelerating with Mexican truck drivers soon to be roving all of the American highways. That is, people who can't even read the signs.
So NATO enlargement and the $65 billion dollar price tag (granted estimated, but the much smaller enlargement held a $35 billion dollar price tag) doesn't even deserve debate? So much for money management.
Public debt
Yes but from where, taxation, deficit spending. And how will this in the end be made up for?
> From Taxes that you and I pay.
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Democracy. We always put in Democracies
I wish this was true, but hardly. Through out Africa and S. America, the US has supported dictatorial strong men. In Iran, the democratic government was overthrown with the aid of the CIA and the Sha installed. In Greece, the US supported the Regime of the Colonels: a militacracy. In Pakistan it's the same.
> We may work with them if it helps us, but we didn't militarily overthrow those countries and put them in power. For example Musharef (sp) was persona non grata until he decided to help us fight the war in Afghanistan.
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Negotiating what?
Negotiating the future Iraqi government.
> They are simply getting advice.
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If they had our blessing when they declared independence we would probably stop the slaughter.
As it stands, we protect the Kurds from the Iraqies but the Turks go on annual Kurd hunts with thousands of soldiers.
> sorry but again you are factually incorrect Saddam has killed more Kurds than the Turks, we don't protect them and they know it.
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Since Saddam is such a mad dog and has had chemical weapons for over twenty years, why hasn't he launched them on Israel?
Because Israel has nukes and isn’t afraid to use them.
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It's funny, since everyone recognizes this as reality, yet when it comes to the US that doesn't have 200 nukes but on the order of 10,000 , the logic seems to break down and Saddam turns into a raving lunatic out for self destruction. Socialists are rarely such, to find the raving lunatics, look south to the religeous nut jobs, called Saudies.
The Saudi leaders are not religious nut jobs, many of their subjects are though. The Saudi leaders simply want to stay in power and will do whatever they have to to accomplish that end. That is why they are trying as hard as they can to straddle the fence.
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A couple of predators will stop any Taliban offensive. The Taliban have already been defeated.
Funny, for a bunch of defeated guys, they still tie down a US division and other international forces and still cause a slow rate of attrition. Not to mention almost daily rocket attacks.
> That is all the taliban are capable of doing, they seem to be less effective than the pali women and children bombers.
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As for Pakistan, why would they aim at India and not America. Consider that it was Pakistani intelligence that created and supported the Taliban and Al Quida, along with Saudi Arabia (both by the way, "moderate and good allies" of America). What is it to say they don't sail a ship into NYC harbor with a nuke?
> Remember our 10,000 nukes? They may hate us but they don't have a suicide wish. Besides they Hate the Indians more, remember the last little border incident there. They don't have any nukes to spare.
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Why are foreign software engineers still being hired and imported at autrocious rates while domestic workers sit in unemployement?
> They aren’t. The companies are currently using them in their own countries. That is the new and more disturbing trend, it would be better if we brought them here and didn't potentially create foreign competitors.
Wrong, the number of visas is still going up.
> Sorry but the "Rate" of Visa growth is way down. The truth is their is very little hiring in the high tech companies right now. Layoff and unpaid vacations are the norm.
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Why are Mexicans still being supported as illegals in the US?
Because the Democrats want their votes.
Wrong again, Republicans have been in power for 2 years now and have had control of the Congress for almost 5, yet the process is accelerating with Mexican truck drivers soon to be roving all of the American highways. That is, people who can't even read the signs.
I drive down in Mexico all the time and I can't read the signs :) Both the Democrats and the Republicans (the pubs are playing catchup) are trying to buy the hispanic vote, the main border state that is trying to buy their votes is California a democratic strong hold.
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So NATO enlargement and the $65 billion dollar price tag (granted estimated, but the much smaller enlargement held a $35 billion dollar price tag) doesn't even deserve debate? So much for money management.
Money that we spend abroad usually has strings attached that require that the recipients buy US products. When you factor in taxes and future sales the original seed money often looks like a very good investment.
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