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Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein secretly funded Pakistan A-bomb
HindustanTimes ^ | December 26 2002 | Pramit Pal Chaudhuri

Posted on 12/26/2002, 4:04:25 AM by swarthyguy

Saddam Hussein was an active partner in Pakistan's nuclear weapons programme not just once, but twice. Iraq funded Pakistan's clandestine nuclear weapons project in the early 1980s in return for uranium-enrichment technology. A decade later, the two were back in bed. This time they were busy trading money for an A-bomb design.

The Pakistani nuclear spy, Abdul Qadeer Khan, stole the blueprints for a simple uranium-enrichment centrifuge made of aluminium from a Netherlands firm where he was working in the 1970s and 1980s. India became suspicious when the same technology then popped up in Iraq and was used by Baghdad from 1987 to 1989.

Citing Dutch media, the Indian embassy in the Netherlands sent a report to New Delhi in September 1991 quoting Khan's Dutch assistant, Frits Veerman, as saying: "Those lethal ultra-centrifuges in Iraq are purely Dutch. Khan first saw to it that Pakistan could grab them. Later his institute supplied blueprints to Baghdad."

In the late 1980s an investigation by Indian intelligence concluded Iraq had helped fund Pakistan's nuclear weapons programme in return for the centrifuge technology. Besides cold cash, the report said, the two Sunni Muslim countries' shared an interest in containing revolutionary Shia Iran. Teheran was covertly funding Shia militants in both countries.

K. Santhanam, head of the Institute of Defence Studies and Analyses and a person who tracked Iraqi-Pakistani nuclear cooperation in the 1980s, suspects Pakistan turned to Iraq because it needed outside money as its atom bomb project carried a $ 6 to 8 billion off-budget price tag. Islamabad, he points out, had earlier turned to Libya and the United Arab Emirates for money.

Analysts believe Iraq probably channelled money to Pakistan through the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, a now-defunct Pakistani bank later beset by scandals over its illegal money transfers. Indian sources say it is likely part of the payment was also in the form of petroleum shipments.

Iraq and Pakistan eventually abandoned aluminium centrifuges as unreliable. Both were later to acquire maraging steel centrifuges from a renegade German scientist.

The Iran-Iraq war, says Santhanam, forced Baghdad to put its nuclear weapons programme on a "maintenance budget" for much of the late 1980s.

By 1990 Iraq was back in the black market for bombs. But this time it wanted the blueprint for a functioning nuclear warhead.

Iraq already had a cumbersome, Hiroshima-type atomic bomb design. Saddam Hussein wanted a smaller bomb that could fit on the top of a Scud missile.

The man who offered to sell Iraq one was A.Q. Khan.

According to a report written in 1998 by West Asian expert Yossef Bodansky: "One of the Iraqi documents retrieved after the [1991] war includes a scrawled footnote describing an offer made to Iraqi intelligence by an unidentified Pakistani offering to establish contacts with 'senior figures in Pakistan's nuclear programme who were willing to help President Saddam Hussein's regime to manufacture a bomb."

A memo found by UN inspectors from Section B15 of Iraqi intelligence to Section S15 of Iraq's nuclear weapons directorate was explicit. It said Baghdad has received a proposal from "Pakistani scientist Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan" to help Iraq "manufacture a nuclear weapon." Iraq admitted to the UN inspection regime that Khan made the offer, but insists it turned it down for fear it was a US sting operation. Pakistan, for its part, insists Khan never made the offer. Not many believe either claim.

Khan publicly denied he had ever "set foot on Iraqi soil." But B. Raman, ex-head of RAW's Pakistan desk, says one "reliable" source had informed Indian intelligence that Khan had gone to Baghdad at least once.

Western intelligence believes one of Khan's deputies acted as the primary middleman between the two countries. Santhanam says India had evidence that there was much "too-ing and fro-ing" between Baghdad and Islamabad on the nuclear front at this point. US proliferation expert Gary Milholin, who spoke with UN inspectors, says they were also certain that Baghdad accepted Khan's offer.

A UN probe failed because Pakistan refused to cooperate. The UN was not allowed to meet Khan. Islamabad announced that it had held its own investigation and cleared Khan of any wrongdoing. No surprise, say Indian officials, as Khan has never been a nuclear freelancer. He has always acted as a nuclear courier at Islamabad's behest, they say.

In September this year Simon Henderson of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy wrote that Western intelligence sources had told him that they were certain "Pakistani nuclear scientists visited Iraq, and Iraqis visited Pakistan's safeguarded enrichment plant at Kahuta."

What it is certain is that Iraq did get a smaller bomb design. Tellingly, say experts like Milholin, the new Iraqi design is one with a "flying tamper" - a device that helps compact a nuclear explosion. Such a tamper exists in Pakistan's most-recent bomb design.

Indian and Western sources believe Pakistan hastily severed its nuclear trade with Iraq once the US went to war with Iraq over Kuwait.

Baghdad did not benefit as much as it wanted to from its atomic alliance with Pakistan. It received a faulty centrifuge technology in the 1980s. And though the Pakistani nuclear design was functional, the UN inspections of the 1990s had destroyed Iraq's uranium-enrichment machines and its stock of enriched uranium. The bulk of the centrifuges the UN destroyed were made of maraging steel. Interestingly, the US accused Iraq in September this year of spending the last 14 months trying to buy thousands of aluminium tubes. Washington said the tubes were for centrifuges. This seems to indicate that Iraq, realizing buying maraging steel tubes would immediately arouse suspicion, tried to get some nuclear fodder using the older centrifuge technology it had bought from Pakistan in the 1980s. Baghdad may have hoped that the more innocuous aluminium tubes would slip through UN sanctions.

Evidence of a double nuclear trail from Baghdad to Kahuta is clear but not clinching. But many in New Delhi believe Pakistan has reason to be worried at what dirty secrets will be found amid the rubble of a post-Saddam Iraq.


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KEYWORDS: iraqi; pakistani
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Consider the source -- Indian propaganda -- anything to beat Pakistan with --

Ha ha, those sneaky Pakistanis -- NK, Bosnia, Iraq....

1 posted on 12/26/2002, 4:04:25 AM by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
Supporters of the Taliban. Yes, Pakistan is our friend.
2 posted on 12/26/2002, 4:12:56 AM by Sparta
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To: knighthawk; Shermy; weikel; Grampa Dave; Travis McGee
Ping.
3 posted on 12/26/2002, 4:15:09 AM by swarthyguy
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I'd give quiet permission for India to turn Pakistan into a giant box of kitty litter whilst we do the same with Iraq.
4 posted on 12/26/2002, 4:18:55 AM by Vigilanteman
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To: swarthyguy
Consider the source -- Indian propaganda

Not sure if that is sarcasm... Considering that Pakistan has ongoing contacts with North Korea, and that prior to the Gulf War there was certainly no reason for them to avoid working with Iraq, I consider it entirely plausible. The article has the ring of truth to it, I would tend to buy it.

One comment the article makes in passing; that Pakistan and Iraq were targets of Shia terrorism funded by Iran; is this true? I assume it is; I have certainly read of Iranian funding of Kurdish fighters in Iraq, I am aware of Iranian funding of Northern Alliance forces in a later decade, I was not aware of Iranian support for anti-Pakistani terrorism. But then again, I don't follow Pakistani news as closely as I should, perhaps...

But if true, and even if not, I certainly notice that Muslims seem always to be at war with any non-Muslims they are near, and when none are handy, they war with each other. Shias vs Sunni, Arabs vs Kurds, Turks vs Kurds, Persians vs Arabs, Dari vs Pashtuns, and on, and on...

Without justifying or minimizing Balkan war crimes against Muslims there, you can see why no one wants to live under Muslim rule. A Bulgarian friend explained it to me thus: We have lived at peace with Muslims as our neighbors for centuries. As long as they are the distinct minority. It is the thought of being ruled by them that has set off the slaughter next door in Bosnia...

Wandering a bit off topic here, I suppose...

In any case, the countries that Muslims have targeted with the greatest enthusiasm, besides each other, are the Russians, India, Israel, and now the US. This, to me, reflects the new strategic reality, which may create a defacto alliance among countries that have previously had little in common on the surface, but who are going to discover that they have much in common where it really counts.

The EU, on the other hand, I am convinced, may try to appease and side with the Muslims, and may suffer greatly because of this error in judgement. If I am right, their defacto alliance with the Muslims is going to cost them dearly down the road.

5 posted on 12/26/2002, 4:40:51 AM by marron
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>>if that is sarcasm...

Yes. Concerning the Shia, what i do know is that there has been fighting among the two in Pakistan, with enclaves of shias being cleaned out, like in the north, near Kashmir and intermittent sectarian warfare in the cities.

The Taliban killed a bunch of Iranians in an 'incident' in 1999 or 20oo. But some Baluchis near the Iranian border are shiite so it's plausible.

Just another item, the US and India signed a treaty agreeing to ignore the new Int'l Court. Was posted here.
6 posted on 12/26/2002, 5:04:27 AM by swarthyguy
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Just another item, the US and India signed a treaty agreeing to ignore the new Int'l Court. Was posted here.

Interesting.

It may be wishful thinking, but I see the various steps toward a US/India alliance with great interest. My impression, perhaps you will correct me, is that India still see us as a competitor and a problem child, but overall I think we are moving toward one another on several different levels. Political and military, certainly, but economically and culturally as well.

I will be fascinated to see how this unfolds. This may be much more interesting and fruitful than watching our "alliance" with Europe decay and crumble.

7 posted on 12/26/2002, 5:13:52 AM by marron
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Cultural blending....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/811967/posts

Geopolitical and international law...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/811975/posts

Missile Defense

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/811963/posts

Without a lot of fanfare....
8 posted on 12/26/2002, 5:17:50 AM by swarthyguy
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I don't know about the propaganda value, but the Indians have been pretty quiet about all the Paki nuclear buzz. Here's a site keeping tabs of all the juicy articles on this subject.

http://www.pakistan-facts.com/index.php?topic=wmd-proliferation
9 posted on 12/26/2002, 5:49:42 AM by atc
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>>is that India still see us as a competitor and a problem child

IT's a long chequered history of India's reticence to ally with the USA post WW2 - IMO primarily due to Nehru's distrust of the USA, transplanted from the Fabians of British Labour. 10K indian troops in Korea would have left a lasting legacy.

Recently, public frustration is centred on the USA's Pakicentric strategy in Afghanistan and wilful ignorance of Pakistan's role in jihadism and especially Pakistan's connections to 9/11.
10 posted on 12/26/2002, 6:12:32 AM by swarthyguy
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To: atc
Thanks. News Googling India or variations turns up oodles, too.
11 posted on 12/26/2002, 6:13:25 AM by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
If this conjecture is true, and I have no doubt it is personaly, we must consider how Pakistan paid Sadam back for his funding. Paki's do not have oodles of oil or cash, nor did they have the cash to acheive the bomb in the first place. But they do have it. Just what do you think the Paki's gave Sadam back for his using them to circumvent the technology blockaid to nuclear materials?

If this article is true, Sadam has the bomb. No two ways about it.

12 posted on 12/26/2002, 6:35:37 AM by American in Israel
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To: swarthyguy
GOOGLE Search Term: "IRAQ AND PAKISTAN"
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Iraq+and+Pakistan%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&filter=0

13 posted on 12/26/2002, 7:25:54 AM by Cindy
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To: swarthyguy
Thanks for the ping.
14 posted on 12/26/2002, 12:27:49 PM by knighthawk
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To: swarthyguy
Thanks for the post and the ping!

After we kill Soddomite and the murdering mullahs of Iran, we will find some incredible links of their Opeck Blood money for decades with countries and the phoney non profits in America. (don't forget politicians like the Clintoons, the Carter and Patty Murray!). Of course the same goes for the massive amount of terrorism financed for over two decades by the Wahhabi Opecker Princes of Saudi Land.

We will see dangerous alliances financed by the Islamofacists and their elite Opecker Wahhabi Princes for decades. The dots will connect the left wing mediots, college professors, most Watermelon Green Jihadist organizatons, most non profits in America like Planned Parenthood, the NAACP, ACLU, Nags and on down the line.

Last but not least will be the left politicians bought out around the world and in the USA from Carter/Clintoon down many current congressits!
15 posted on 12/26/2002, 6:05:06 PM by Grampa Dave
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To: swarthyguy
bump
16 posted on 12/26/2002, 6:17:04 PM by VOA
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To: American in Israel
Simple Deal. We fund. You build. We get.
17 posted on 12/26/2002, 7:57:12 PM by swarthyguy
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To: honway
Analysts believe Iraq probably channelled money to Pakistan through the Bank of Credit and Commerce International

BNL, too, no doubt. All the same characters again.

18 posted on 12/26/2002, 8:00:28 PM by swarthyguy
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To: AM2000; Dog Gone
Ping.
19 posted on 12/27/2002, 6:36:30 PM by swarthyguy
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I don't think there is any doubt that Pakistan was involved with shady characters and terrorist organizations prior to 9/11.
20 posted on 12/27/2002, 6:45:30 PM by Dog Gone
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