HOMEOWNER BUSTED AFTER SHOOTING BURGLAR

New York Post ^ | 12/30/02 | JOE McGURK and WILLIAM J. GORTA

[kattracks]

Fired four shots at intruder.

December 29, 2002 -- A Long Island homeowner blasted a would-be burglar with a .22-caliber pistol as the thug climbed through a window yesterday - and later said he has no regrets, although he was arrested.

[Bob]

Yeah, but he could have yelled out that he was armed or something...seems kind of trigger happy to me.

I sincerely hope that you forgot your </sarcasm> tag on that observation.

This potential victim's first mistake was having insufficient caliber for home defense. A .22 is better than nothing but not much.

[Old Professer]

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Monday, 12/30/02    |    Middle Tennessee News & Information

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Would-be carjacker fatally shot, threatens driver, police say

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By WARREN DUZAK
For The Tennessean

An early-morning carjacking attempt turned fatal for a would-be carjacker whose threats prompted a driver to pull a concealed revolver and shoot him several times, Metro police said.

Jerry Williams Jr., 25, of Wallace Road, Nashville, was dead at the scene after he attempted to carjack a new Ford Explorer SUV at about 1:30 a.m. at the Golden Gallon convenience store at 198 Haywood Lane, police said.

Williams was shot after he jumped into the SUV and demanded that the driver, Billy John Brown, 50, of Ezell Road, Nashville, start the vehicle, investigators said. Williams had first asked Brown for a light for a cigarette when Brown came out of the store, police said.

''Mr. Brown stated the suspect told him to start the car three times,'' night court documents state. ''As Mr. Brown refused and began to get out of the car, the suspect stated, 'I will kill you.' Mr. Brown retrieved his .44-caliber Taurus that was in the seat beside him, and as he got out of the car he saw the suspect raised (sic) his hand up as if he had a weapon, and Mr. Brown returned fire, striking the suspect several times.''

Williams' companion, David Lee Moore Jr., 20, fled during the shooting but was captured shortly afterward, police said. He was in the Metro Criminal Justice Center last night, charged with attempted carjacking.

Brown, who has a permit to carry a weapon, was not charged, and police are considering the shooting a justifiable homicide, police spokesman Don Aaron said.

Aaron added that the shooting will be investigated by the district attorney's office, and he said that there were several witnesses whose description of events agreed with Brown's.

Earlier this year, Brown ran for a seat in the state House of Representatives, losing in the 59th District to incumbent Sherry Jones. He also incorporated Skydive Record Co. out of his home, according to the Tennessee secretary of state's office.

  

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[Cap'n Crunch]

Yeah, I forgot (well purposely) the tag...just doing a little fishing.

Mischievous mood this morning.

[Old Professer]

I don't often post a "view source" document; I hope I haven't run afoul of the AM.

Although the victim is more of a "house-wine" type of guy than a "Joe sixpack" fellow, I don't think that made any difference in this case.

[Bob]

Yeah, I forgot (well purposely) the tag...just doing a little fishing.

Mischievous mood this morning.

Thanks, I finally caught on when I read a little further down.

IMHO, civilian crime victims shouldn't be too concerned about the 'escalating force' concept. It just doesn't apply and would probably get us killed.

Cops, of course, have to follow it. It's the nature of their job and I don't envy them one bit.

[JoeSixPack1]

Hey, take it easy. :-)

[wtc911]

Inwood in NYC is upper Manhattan. Inwood on LI is between Vally Stream and Long Beach. If the wounded man was taken to Jamaica Hospital (which btw is experienced in gunshot wounds) then it was clearly the latter.

[JoeSixPack1]

The hospital on record, Jamaica Hospital, is still an uncommon choice from the location of the incident. Nassau General or Queens General would have been a shorter transport. And then there is the county line and all accompanying laws, transport fees, etc. If the perp's condition was such to allow such a long ride from Inwood to the corner of Van Wyck Exp. and Jamaica Ave he must not have been in too bad a shape.

Or am I thinking of the wrong hospital?

The home owner needs some range time too. :-)

[wtc911]

The perp was strong enough to run and hide. The EMS assessment might have been that his wounds were not critical and, Jamaica Hosp. is primary in SE Queens for all such wounds. Since Inwood abuts Queens it is likely that the perp (as in most sw Nassau crimes of this type) is from Queens and was trying to get home. The story does not say if he was arrested in Nassau or Queens, just a few blocks away. Either way, this type of seemingly illogical transport is in fact common. It happens in Manhattan all the time.

[Cap'n Crunch]

My mom told me to be a doctor but I didn't listen.

[Constitutional Patriot]

"He should should have stashed the unregistered gun and explained the intruder shot himself with his own gun. Worse they could do then was throw at him for possible perjury. Yeah I could see the D.A trying to convince a jury to take a robber's word over a citizen who saw the idiot trip on his own gun."

Yeah...but he was shot a few times..

[JoeSixPack1]

I lived in Jamaica from '55 to '73, it just seems a really long way.

[wtc911]

You're right it is a long way. I can only assume that Jamaica Hosp was chosen for experiential and security reasons.

[Guillermo]

He should've run out the back door...Just like the law that Teddy Kennedy tried to pass and couldn't.

[optimistically_conservative]

Firearm Laws for New York State

Possession:

Handguns: A license is needed to possess a handgun in one's home or place of business. Application is made to the "licensing officer" of the city or county where the applicant resides, is principally employed or where his principal place of business as a merchant or store keeper is located. (The licensing officer in New York City and Nassau County is the Police Commissioner; in Suffolk County, the Police Commissioner or Sheriff; elsewhere in the state, a county judge or some other designated judge or justice.)

HANDGUN LICENSING INFORMATION

$255.00 - Made payable to the New York City Police Department, must be paid by certified check or money order.

$74.00 - Made payable to the NYS Division of Criminal Justice Services, must be paid ONLY by U.S. Postal money order or a bank drawn money order.

The above fees must be paid separately.

[technochick99]

Well let me take a chill pill then :)

[JoeSixPack1]

experiential

hehehe that's a giggler. New lobotomy technology or the new "Lead Magnet" made for politicians to remove evidence before moving a body to a crash site??? :-)

And did the home owner get taken to Creedmore? :-)(is that still there?)

[TC Rider]

Don Imus has a handgun which he wears openly on television. Yet, he is publicly in favor of gun control.

That is a nice little Glock he's carrying now. Seems like he had a bigger one a while back. A year or so ago he was sporting a big cowboy revolver in his briefcase.

I've not heard him support gun control. He has stated that McCainiac (who he dearly loves), is wrong-headed on gun control.

I'm glad he openly wears his Glock. The libs at NBC have to hate it. It shows more clearly than anything I can think of, the hypocracy of NYC gun laws.

They give a permit to an acknowledged former drug addict and alcoholic, yet will deny you or I in a NY minute.

[Froggie]

Why not - shoot hoever many times it takes to discourage the bastard!