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HOMEOWNER BUSTED AFTER SHOOTING BURGLAR
New York Post ^ | 12/30/02 | JOE McGURK and WILLIAM J. GORTA

Posted on 12/30/2002 12:27:37 AM PST by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:10:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Fired four shots at intruder.

December 29, 2002 -- A Long Island homeowner blasted a would-be burglar with a .22-caliber pistol as the thug climbed through a window yesterday - and later said he has no regrets, although he was arrested.


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1 posted on 12/30/2002 12:27:37 AM PST by kattracks
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To: *bang_list
ping
2 posted on 12/30/2002 12:30:25 AM PST by chance33_98
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To: kattracks
No good deed goes unpunished.
3 posted on 12/30/2002 12:53:06 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: chance33_98
Come on, the answer is obvious. He should have let the burglar take whatever he wanted. And if the burglar got violent, the homeowner should have called the police and waited for them to arrive.
4 posted on 12/30/2002 12:56:09 AM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose
Yup. New York City's answer is confiscating your guns if you dare defense yourself. NEVER EVER register your guns with the government. Let this be an object lesson to every gun owner out there.
5 posted on 12/30/2002 12:59:26 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: kattracks; AnnaZ
Police also seized three legally owned rifles from Freamon's house, which he said had been burglarized before.

Legally owned! Hello! WTF? I guess they want to make sure that next time this guy doesn't stand a chance against someone coming into his home.

6 posted on 12/30/2002 1:01:29 AM PST by Bella_Bru
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To: Bella_Bru
Uh huh. The SOB's prefer a law abiding citizen to be murdered than risk a criminal getting gunned down. They sure do have their priorities straight.
7 posted on 12/30/2002 1:03:18 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
It's not like any cop in NYC will have time for real crime. They are too busy busting smokers.
8 posted on 12/30/2002 1:04:43 AM PST by Bella_Bru
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To: Bella_Bru
And members of the NRA.
9 posted on 12/30/2002 1:06:58 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: Bella_Bru
Tonight on Fox! A new reality show hitting the mean streets of New York City. They're hard. They're mean. They have a badge and a mission. They're NYPD Nico-Nazis!
10 posted on 12/30/2002 1:10:51 AM PST by BradyLS
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To: BradyLS
or: 'Bacco Gestapo
11 posted on 12/30/2002 1:11:54 AM PST by BradyLS
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To: BradyLS
Cigarette Smokers and Gun Owners. Apparently illegal alien gangs who rape women are not on top of the NYPD's list.
12 posted on 12/30/2002 1:13:15 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: BradyLS
Cops love to collar "criminals" who they know won't fight back or provide any resistance.
13 posted on 12/30/2002 1:15:25 AM PST by ambrose
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To: kattracks
Freamon, meanwhile, was charged with fourth-degree weapons possession for the pistol

Can anyone explain exactly what law it is in new york that makes this gun illegal?

14 posted on 12/30/2002 2:15:57 AM PST by rudehost
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To: rudehost
If it was an unregistered weapon, they'd hit him with this charge. Heck most people in New York City carry unregistered weapons. Its simply a fact of life and there's no way you can get a permit to own a gun in NYC. Its either put your life in danger or break the law. Most people have very little difficulty deciding their lives are more valuable than a stupid law.
15 posted on 12/30/2002 2:18:58 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
Its simply a fact of life and there's no way you can get a permit to own a gun in NYC.

You, of course, are speaking of ordinary citizens. Don Imus has a handgun which he wears openly on television. Yet, he is publicly in favor of gun control. Typical of the elite media.

16 posted on 12/30/2002 2:44:04 AM PST by nygoose
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To: nygoose
True. The elite in NYC can get permits when they want. The permit process is discretionary and easily abused. If you have the right connections you can carry a gun around the city with you. But if you're Joe Six Pack, you're simply out of luck.
17 posted on 12/30/2002 2:53:29 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: ambrose
Come on, the answer is obvious.

The answer is obvious, he should have shot him with one of the rifles and stashed the illegal handgun.

18 posted on 12/30/2002 2:53:40 AM PST by relee
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To: relee
He should should have stashed the unregistered gun and explained the intruder shot himself with his own gun. Worse they could do then was throw at him for possible perjury. Yeah I could see the D.A trying to convince a jury to take a robber's word over a citizen who saw the idiot trip on his own gun.
19 posted on 12/30/2002 2:56:42 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
There's a lot of money to be made on this poor dude.

Fines, the confiscated weapons (cops have been known to re-sell) and of course his lawyer.

The burglar will take civil action after his free hospital stay.

The victim becomes a source of revenue... might even lose his house before it's over.

I pray he gets a good judge The lunatics are running the asylum!

20 posted on 12/30/2002 3:08:44 AM PST by johnny7
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To: kattracks
This innocent man lives in Nassau County, a few blocks east of the border with New York City. He is now in the hands of the lawyers and the judges of that county, who are highly corrupt. He can kiss $50,000 in equity in his home good-bye to the local corrupt lawyer industry.
21 posted on 12/30/2002 3:14:14 AM PST by friendly
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To: kattracks
Authorities say nobody should have a hand gun because we all have police protection available to us and therefore the self protection argument is moot.

That's the big lie. The cops function in all this would be to fill out the paperwork after the homeowner is dead, maybe his family hurt or killed and his possessions taken.

We have an inalienable right to self defense and no court can take that right away. It's time to allow honest citizens to carry and/or possess handguns.

22 posted on 12/30/2002 3:27:11 AM PST by Russ7
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To: johnny7
I pray he gets a good judge

The homeowner is black; I'm sure JacksonMfumeSharptonEtc will make sure his rights are protected.

23 posted on 12/30/2002 4:14:19 AM PST by Gun142
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To: friendly
IE the robbery was a success:-(
24 posted on 12/30/2002 4:20:49 AM PST by glory
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To: kattracks
Licenses in NY are only for rich white folks.
25 posted on 12/30/2002 4:26:06 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: kattracks
....bought out of state...

If it was a legal purchase in another state, how can it be illegally owned in New York?

26 posted on 12/30/2002 4:32:52 AM PST by xzins
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To: Gun142
Nah... no big bucks here for them bastids.

Color has no meaning here. Just some guy who didn't follow the rules of the police state.

Cops want every decent civilian un-armed and like to write tickets.

They hate those 911 calls. Could lose their ball-sack from a real bad SOB.

Jackson/Mfume and Sharpton have bigger fish to fry. No money for them.

27 posted on 12/30/2002 4:36:59 AM PST by johnny7
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To: kattracks
RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED - Article II of our Bill of Rights with our 14th Amendment: either the blackrobes agree with what our Constitution clearly states, or through their own userpations thusly prove that they are willing enemies our our Constitutional government. Judicial "ruling" is a revealing term.
28 posted on 12/30/2002 4:45:11 AM PST by SevenDaysInMay
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To: kattracks
Out here in the west, we have the " Make my Day " law. Homeowners have the right to use deadly force if they feel threatened while defending their homes.

Perhaps New York should reconsider its foolish law. If homeowners cannot protect themselves from intrusion, what's left?? Only bars on doors and windows??

A strange and unhappy society indeed where innocent folk are required to live behind bars.
29 posted on 12/30/2002 4:59:22 AM PST by wunderkind54
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To: kattracks
Just to keep the record straight...this gentleman (who has performed a public service by ridding us of one more thug) lives not in New York City, but in Nassau County, Long Island. Unfortunately, Nassau County and Suffolk County have almost as stupid gun laws as NYC -- the only exception I can think of is you are allowed to have unlicensed and unregistered shotguns and rifles on Long Island. In NYC, all guns must be registered.

Regards,
30 posted on 12/30/2002 4:59:23 AM PST by VermiciousKnid
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To: kattracks
He should have known a 45 Caliber semi auto would have been more effective in his protecting his home.
When a person cannot protect himself from an intruder breaking into his home, something is seriously wrong with our laws.
Should he have waited until the intruder shot first???
31 posted on 12/30/2002 4:59:29 AM PST by chatham
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To: kattracks
So, we are "free", are we? So we have the right to self-defense do we? So, the government is on the side of the property owner is it?
32 posted on 12/30/2002 5:00:45 AM PST by RISU
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To: goldstategop
He should should have stashed the unregistered gun and explained the intruder shot himself with his own gun. Worse they could do then was throw at him for possible perjury. Yeah I could see the D.A trying to convince a jury to take a robber's word over a citizen who saw the idiot trip on his own gun.

He should have said nothing, never, never talk to the cops about anything that you don't wan to be prosecuted for. He should have stashed the gun and kept his mouth shut, screw Em' let them figure it out themselves.

33 posted on 12/30/2002 5:06:57 AM PST by TightSqueeze
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To: Russ7
We have an inalienable right to self defense and no court can take that right away. It's time to allow honest citizens to carry and/or possess handguns

I've got a little invention I dreamed up. It's basically like a can of mace. But filled with gasoline and something to make the gasoline a little less volatile. It has 2 triggers - one sprays gasoline on the perp. The second, for last-resort use, simply lights a lighter built into the top of the thing.

After hosing the guy down with gas, he'll likely want to remove himself from the vicinity of a dude with a lighter.

As far as I know it's not illegal in any state - but would be made so quickly upon release. Note from the description above that it is NOT a flamethrower. Not recommended for use indoors ;-)

34 posted on 12/30/2002 5:14:48 AM PST by BearCub
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To: kattracks
How and why did they know the other 3 firearms were present?

He should never have told the cops those firearms existed.
They didn't have a warrent.
Did they need one?
Did the registration of the other firearms result in their confiscation?
35 posted on 12/30/2002 5:20:35 AM PST by G Larry
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To: G Larry
His real mistake was in calling 911. Obviously in NYC you are better off to bar ditch any intruders you have managed to bag and tag.
36 posted on 12/30/2002 6:56:06 AM PST by nomorecameljocks
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To: kattracks
A case could be made that Freamon is a d*mn fool for calling 911 in the first place - he'd already dealt with the situation, and probably thoroughly deterred the burglar.

Now, though, the burglar knows he's unarmed!
37 posted on 12/30/2002 6:59:45 AM PST by Redbob
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To: kattracks
This is sad, just sad. The means for self-defense is outlawd in many places in America, and the use of a firearm in self-defense will most likely result in person's arrest.
38 posted on 12/30/2002 7:00:05 AM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: Russ7
"Authorities say nobody should have a hand gun because we all have police protection available to us and therefore the self protection argument is moot."

These are the same "authorities" who have also argued before the courts that they do not have the obligation to show or to take any action if they arrive.
39 posted on 12/30/2002 7:02:16 AM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: rdb3; mhking
Freamon is living proof that the Democratic Party's fascination with "gun control" discriminates against law-abiding Blacks.

Protect your home and family in a Democratic Party "gun control" zone and then you go to jail for your "crime".

NEWSFLASH To the Democratic Party: the average Black family man does NOT live in crime-free gated communities, no, the average Black family man lives in areas where it makes the MOST sense to be armed for your own defense.

Yet another issue on which the Democratic Party's view is counter to the best interests of minorities...

40 posted on 12/30/2002 7:02:54 AM PST by Southack
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To: MinuteGal
Bump!

Leni

41 posted on 12/30/2002 7:06:33 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: rudehost
I think it is the Sullivan Law (H. L. Mencken On Gun Control), which was passed to keep minorities from possessing hand guns in New Yawk Sh**ty.

Looks like the law is serving the Plantation Overseers well in this case - they are able to arrest another uppity minority guy, and send a message to the rest of the slaves.

42 posted on 12/30/2002 7:07:45 AM PST by an amused spectator
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To: kattracks
bump
43 posted on 12/30/2002 7:09:54 AM PST by VOA
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To: kattracks
4 times? Why'd he have to shoot him 4 times????
44 posted on 12/30/2002 7:15:38 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: rudehost
Can anyone explain exactly what law it is in new york that makes this gun illegal?

Possession of unregistered handguns in NY state is a felony. And of course, felons lose their RKBA. You will have to ask some other FReeper why it's so important that felons don't have guns.

45 posted on 12/30/2002 7:17:09 AM PST by coloradan
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To: goldstategop
But if you're Joe Six Pack, you're simply out of luck.

You are correct. Happily CCW'd here in Florida :-)

Did you notice the report does not mention New York CITY......... although Brooklyn and Queens are on the Island, they are only referred to as LI when NYC's reputation is in question. If this was LI proper, Nassau or Suffolk county would get the rap.

46 posted on 12/30/2002 7:17:14 AM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Hubby is an ex-cop...says people don't always die if you shoot them once....that's tv.

He says, "If you need to defend yourself with a gun, ALWAYS fire at least two shots, to be safe, rather than sorry."

48 posted on 12/30/2002 7:27:22 AM PST by NordP
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To: NordP
Tell hubby- ammo is cheap compared to funerals or doctor bills or ??, so....

EMPTY THE CLIP & Reload.
49 posted on 12/30/2002 7:33:47 AM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: NordP
Yeah, but he could have yelled out that he was armed or something...seems kind of trigger happy to me.
50 posted on 12/30/2002 7:36:45 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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