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To: Recon by Fire; TexKat; Grampa Dave; Sacajaweau; browardchad; Shermy; ~Kim4VRWC's~; Travis McGee; ...
I suppose that those BFVs and M88 could pass for a tank.

Wesley Clark's TANKS.

there's also this from http://www.getwaco.com/Waco/WacoP/pages/fsfilm/flstory.html


Then, on the morning of April 19, 1993, we watch as tanks mounted with boom structures rip holes in the compound walls and insert the tear gas. Still the Davidians do not come out, and the FBI reports gunfire coming at them from within the compound. The gassing and demolition of the building continues until late morning.

Fire suddenly breaks out. We see the flames spread quickly in the wind. The compound is soon engulfed. Within minutes, 52 adults and 25 children, including two trauma-born infants, perish in the flames. The fire, the FBI claims, was started by the Davidians.


But questions surrounding the death of the Davidians and the official FBI account of the siege persist – questions such as:

Why was there a premature destruction of the crime scene – a destruction that resulted in critical evidence not being recovered?

Why were shots heard and empty shell casings recovered from an FBI sniper position – when the FBI claims they did not fire their weapons during the siege? And stationed at that position: a sniper notorious for his actions at Ruby Ridge.

Who killed Jimmy Riddle, a Davidian, whose body was found outside the compound walls? He was shot through the head and his body mutilated by a tank. But where are the evidentiary portions of his body? Who killed Jimmy Riddle? Was there more to his death than previously thought?

The questions continue.

Dr. Edward Allard, an infrared expert, analyzed the Forward-Looking Infrared (FLIR) videotape made by an FBI airplane circling overhead during the siege. The FLIR videotape shows a tank at the back of the compound. The vehicle discharges two men who, according to Dr. Allard, fire into the compound with automatic weapons. Over 60 shots are fired.

Maurice Cox, a former intelligence analyst, testifies in a report that the flashes seen on the Waco FLIR tape could not be solar reflections. Dr. Frederic Whitehurst, narrator and former FBI Crime Lab analyst, concurs.

If the FBI was not shooting, then who was? Was the Delta Force, an elite counter-terrorist military unit in action at Waco – in violation of federal law prohibiting the use of military forces against US citizens?






And who started the fire? Why were pyrotechnic devices capable of starting the fire found in the rubble of the compound if the FBI claims it never used them? Why were pyrotechnic devices found at all three points of origin of the fire?

Why were the bodies of 15 Davidians found shot to death near the only undamaged exit from the compound? Were the flashes on the FLIR tape during the fire actually gunfire aimed at that exit? And how could the bodies accidentally be left to decompose before forensic testing could take place?

Why does the evidence seem to indicate that the hole in the top of the church vault – the "bunker" – was made by the detonation of a high-explosive demolition charge? Why were only the bodies of women and children found in that bunker, and did they die as a result of that explosion?

And finally, why does the evidence show the chain of command during the operation at Waco leading to the office of Vincent Foster and to the First Lady, Hillary Rodham Clinton? Was Vince Foster's suicide related to the deaths at Waco? Why did some of Foster's files on Waco end up missing after his death, and who appears to have seen them last?


The answers are shocking, the evidence disturbing, and the overall conclusions difficult to face. But this is the story that couldn't be ignored; the story of newly uncovered evidence, of missing or destroyed evidence; of shocking testimony and outright deception. It's a story of human fallibility and the abuse of power; a story of outsiders and insiders, and the tragic consequences of violence met with violence.

"
Waco: A New Revelation" is a film America needs to see.



...here's more...
Waco Siege Investigator Found Dead In His Home

Carlos Ghigliotti, who had been retained by a U.S. House committee to help investigate the 1993 siege of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Tex., was found dead in Laurel under unexplained circumstances yesterday.

"We're investigating it as a homicide," said Laurel police spokesman Jim Collins. Ghigliotti, 42, was found about 1:30 p.m. in the 600 block of Washington Boulevard. His body was badly decomposed, said police. There were no signs of a break-in or a struggle at the home, where Ghigliotti ran his business, Infrared Technologies Corp., police said. An expert in thermal imaging and videotape, Ghigliotti told the House Government Reform Committee in October that his analysis of tapes at Waco indicated that an FBI agent fired shots at the compound on April 19, the final day of the siege--a view disputed by the FBI.

Michael Caddell, lead lawyer in a $100 million wrongful death lawsuit stemming from the Waco siege, said last night that he recently had discussed the findings with Ghigliotti and intended to retain him--not only because his work was impressive but also because Caddell's first expert had suffered a stoke recently. Caddell said that two weeks ago he wrote to Waco Special Counsel John C. Danforth, urging that he interview Ghigliotti immediately....

32 posted on 01/04/2003 3:04:35 PM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: FL_engineer
Yeah, it makes you mad and breaks your heart, would drive you crazy if you let it.

We just thoroughly beat another Butcher of Waco here in Fla last fall, looks like another one needs to be put away here.

36 posted on 01/04/2003 3:16:37 PM PST by crystalk
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To: FL_engineer
Clark was rewarded for his "bravery" at Waco by the Clintoon and Jake Reno.

He has to be one of the most dangerous Rats alive today! There is no one in America or around the world that he would not shell, blow up and incenerate if he had the power to do so.
47 posted on 01/04/2003 4:39:16 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: FL_engineer
I am totally with you.

Wesley Clark is Satan.

Next to him, Bill Clinton is just Satan's Crafty Minion. Wesley Clark is one of the most evil beings to walk the planet. He is right up there with Stalin and Pol Pot. Evil evil evil. The blackest evil.
51 posted on 01/04/2003 5:47:40 PM PST by eno_
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To: FL_engineer
I finally figured out why the Davidians had to be destroyed. Like so many violent deaths these days, it had to do with DRUGS. The Davidians under Koresh stopped playing the drug game - that always gets people killed, along with their families.
58 posted on 01/04/2003 8:07:37 PM PST by agrandis
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To: FL_engineer
Thank you so much for the heads up and the information!
59 posted on 01/04/2003 8:47:50 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: FL_engineer
Thanks for the post. I firmly believe based on all the evidence at our disposal (so far) that the FBI, and the other jackbooted thugs with them that day, MURDERED those children at WACO. Let me tell you - if I were a young trooper present at Waco that day, I would have REFUSED any orders to attack that compound on moral grounds. All of those men who participated should be put in chains and thrown in a dungeon for life. Tyranny lives in America.
67 posted on 01/06/2003 7:54:54 AM PST by exmarine
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To: FL_engineer
"An expert in thermal imaging and videotape, Ghigliotti told the House Government Reform Committee in October that his analysis of tapes at Waco indicated that an FBI agent fired shots at the compound on April 19, the final day of the siege--a view disputed by the FBI. "

There was a thread perhaps a year ago about a technical conference where somebody analyzed the lighting and came to a similar conclusion. Let me know if you need me to look for it.
71 posted on 01/06/2003 12:00:14 PM PST by Tymesup
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