CALIFORNIA: 5-year-old ban in bars leaves owners, customers fuming

Appeal-Democrat.com ^ | 5 January 2003 | Scott Bransford

[Bella_Bru]

Hey, I am still enjoying the fact that I am avoiding paying the high taxes you love so much.

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

This isn't about whether or not smoking is bad for you. It's about freedom. You don't get it.

How can one be free when they are a slave to a cigarette?

[davisdoug]

You missed responding to me today. I was really looking forward to another intelligent debate with one soooooo smart as yourself. I would guess you were having problems with the IRS or the line at the local check cashing center was to long. LOL

[Eaker]

My level is clean, your level is stinking! Which level do you rather be?

Another cry for acceptance. Once again butch up and understand that this is as good as you get.

You crave acceptance so much that you are blinded by smoking.

Since you crave acceptance so much, and apparently have not achieved it, perhaps just being a anti-smoking Nazi isn't enough. You might try to cultivate yourself into more than just that.

Finally, I like the way smoke smells and if it keeps you away from me then I will continue to smoke if for no other reason.

Eaker

[stylin_geek]

As a final note, I'm astonished at the number of people who support smoking bans based on "public health" and the long term known health effects of smoke. Well, if this is truly the case, then a law needs to be passed against bars and restaurants serving un-healthy foods, due to the known long term health effects of eating fatty foods.

[Max McGarrity]

How can one be free when they are a slave to a cigarette?

Smokers are not "slaves" to cigarettes--that's just another empty, asinine comment straight from the anti-smoker talking points.

My question to you is: How can anyone be free when they are slaves to statists and unelected "health fascists"? At least people smoke because they CHOOSE to do so.

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

Spoken like a addicted smoking-nazing who doesn't give a damn that he makes everything and everyone stink, makes meals impossible to enjoy, and decides that the world is your ashtray.
Get off it buddy, you are addicted and until you decide that you can take control of you own life and stop being a pawn of the tobacco companies and spout your crap about how healthy, wonderful and charming your addiction is to everyone else, don't both typing to me with your sickening yellow teeth, and smelly nicotine fingers.

[lds23]

Five years ago I and the other non-smokers were freed from the stench.

That's what YOU think.

[lds23]

I smoked for years. Quit for years. Started up again a few years ago. Just quit this New Years. Because I felt like it.

Never have I thought it my place to tell people not to smoke. Nor to tell people in elevators that they have on too much perfume. Nor to tell loudmouths at the next table to keep quiet so I can enjoy my meal. Roll my eyes, yes. Ask a polite question if it really bothers me, yes.

Set up a policing apparatus with the power to levy fines and use force if I don't like it? I'm not that bothered by it that much to go to that extreme.

Although I do sometimes beep my horn at people on cell phones driving like a jerk.

[Max McGarrity]

Spoken like a addicted smoking-nazing who doesn't give a damn that he makes everything and everyone stink, makes meals impossible to enjoy, and decides that the world is your ashtray.

Temper, temper...you're sounding more like Hitlery every time you post. If you'll keep your pant-suited nose out of places that welcome smokers, you'll have no reason to complain. Not that it would stop you from doing so...

Get off it buddy, you are addicted and until you decide that you can take control of you own life and stop being a pawn of the tobacco companies and spout your crap about how healthy, wonderful and charming your addiction is to everyone else, don't both typing to me with your sickening yellow teeth, and smelly nicotine fingers.

Wow! Imagine making such insulting accusations to and about someone you don't know...have never met...will never meet (if I have anything to say about it)...and with whom you allegedly share a conservative viewpoint!

BTW, I don't support the tobacco companies--I suggest every smoker buy loose tobacco from a small grower and make his/her own for about $8/ctn, which also keeps OUR money out of YOUR pockets, and I have no "addictions." I smoke, which I enjoy doing, and control freaks and pseudo-liberals are free to stay far away from me. Oh, yeah, my teeth, which are my own, are not yellow nor disgusting (according to my dentist who knows what he's talking about, unlike you), and my fingers are not stained. Not only that...I know how to type! Put THAT in your pipe and stick it where the sun don't shine.

[Terriergal]

You need to put yourself in the position of the officers. Now try and respond intelligently.

How about setting the example for us all?

[Terriergal]

Do we have a liberal troll in the ranks?

[Terriergal]

My husband and I lowered ours to 145 and yours still don't make sense.

[Terriergal]

Say, did you show up on about.com's hunting forum and an anti peta delphi forum a few months ago and insult everyone there too? I seem to remember someone with this same approach that got banned posthaste!

[Max McGarrity]

ROFLMAO!