Posted on 01/06/2003 8:33:03 AM PST by Sabertooth
It's nice to know your personal affection for the President has clouded you assessment of his handling of the immigration issue.
Me, I prefer to let our masterful team know that I will support whatever efforts they make to curb the problems without making this country into a socialist nanny state governed by the para-military wannabes.
LOL. Your masterful team of clowns have done nothing to curb the problem and have only made the problem worst.
Also, GWB and his group of masterful clowns have done everything they can to turn this country in socialist nanny state run by para-military wannabes. Just look at the PATRIOT Act, and all the other crap that Congress has passed and the President has signed.
Bush wants to Amnesty illegal aliens; Bush wants to give away our Social Security to Mexicans, Bush wants the Borders wide open for cheap labor and hopefully votes.
Illegal Immigration is a contributing factor, if not the major contributing factor, to almost every problem in the US, and Bush has no desire to stop illegal aliens from entering this country.
Since 9/11, Bush and company have made it harder for the INS law enforcement officers to arrest and deport illegal aliens, and have implemented several flawed programs the hinder legal travelers and do nothing to hinder illegal travelers.
Bush and his masterful team of clowns will be the ruin of this country just as fast as any Democrat.
Janet, I think we've given George Bush enough time to let us know the road he's going to take. He's proving it daily on the illegal immigration front. He's a disappointment.
I agree. Wait until the Mexican trucks get rolling here into the good old U.S.A, and the Free Trade Area of the Americas starts kicking in. Our country will be one big divided mess of multicultures, with ours gone down the drain.
Unhappily, I agree with you. I think those trucks will be filled with more than imported goods. I believe there will be shipments of illegal aliens (not only Mexicans), drugs, and worse.
What or who will stop an Al Qaeda terrorist from paying a Mexican truck driver to deliver whatever nightmare weapon he wants to enter our country? Not George Bush, he doesn't want to hurt Vicente Fox's feelings, after all, it's not politically correct.
JJDKII: Do you honestly believe that there's the remotest chance that Bush and the GOP (as a whole) intend to get on the right track? Has Bush in particular ever said one word or done one thing to suggest that he has any serious plans to curb what I frankly regard as an (unarmed) invasion of the United States?
While I understand and share much of the frustration that many have with President Bush and his policies to date on Illegals, I don't see any urgency in deciding not to vote for him. My vote is his to lose in 2004, and here's why:
First, there's no election until November of next year. Time is not a factor. I might support an insurgent candidate in the primary, but even that decision is more than a year away. The legislative cycle is going to be about eighteen months, maybe a little more.
Second, for the first time in my lifetime, the GOP has a clear, explicit majority of both chambers of Congress, as well as the Presidency. I'm curious to see how that plays out, aren't you? It's finally put or shut up time for the Republicans and President Bush on Illegals, as well as many other matters. Why would I walk away from the table now?
Third, despite his disappointing record on Illegals, President Bush is the best immediate hope to turn this around. What are the other options? Join the Democrats? A third party? Even if I did that, there will be no effect on President Bush until November 2004 at the earliest, if he continues to coddle Illegals. The Democrats certainly aren't going to deport anyone, and third parties have no power at the moment.
Fourth, as I asked before, if I leave now, what leverage do I have? Zero. If the President has already lost my vote, I am no longer even an infinitesimal factor in his decision making.
So, in answer to your question, JJDKII, I do think that there is some chance that President Bush might do something constructive on Illegals. I hold the prerogative to vote for someone else in 2004, and I don't lose it by giving the President a chance in the meantime to do the right thing.
In the interim, I intend to support President Bush where I believe he is right (as in much of his foreign policy, after the Clinton disaster, judicial appointments, tax cuts, etc.), and I'll rattle my sword and stomp my walking boots any time he so much as looks funny at Illegals. That seems to me to be the most prudent, if sketchy, path of action right now.
Fair enough?
Yes, for now I'll cling to my cherished status among the barely relevant, and put off for now lurching into quixotic exile.
Third, despite his disappointing record on Illegals, President Bush is the best immediate hope to turn this around. What are the other options? Join the Democrats? A third party? Even if I did that, there will be no effect on President Bush until November 2004 at the earliest, if he continues to coddle Illegals. The Democrats certainly aren't going to deport anyone, and third parties have no power at the moment.
Agreed.
So far, doing nothing hasn't had many consequences because, even though the majority of people want immigration reduced, they haven't retaliated against their members of Congress when they have failed to comply.
That's the trick... to find a way to make the truth more intimidating than the lie.
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