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Cop took just 3 seconds to shoot dog
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Thursday, January 9, 2003

Posted on 01/08/2003 11:35:54 PM PST by JohnHuang2

The Tennessee policeman who shot and killed a family's dog during a terrorizing traffic stop took just three seconds to slay the animal after it jumped out its owners' car, reports the Cookeville Herald-Citizen.

Law-enforcement authorities released a videotape of the incident yesterday, which shows the three-second time frame on the tape's counter.

The Cookeville police officer who shot the dog, Eric Hall, has since been reassigned to administrative duties while the incident is probed.

As WorldNetDaily reported, the Smoak family was returning to their home in North Carolina on New Year's Day when three police cars swarmed their vehicle on Interstate 40 in what appeared to be a traffic stop.


The Smoaks appear on CNN

A Tennessee Highway Patrol officer broadcast orders over a bullhorn for driver James Smoak to toss the keys out of the car window, get out with his hands up and walk backwards to the rear of the car. Smoak obeyed and was subsequently ordered onto his knees and handcuffed at gunpoint. Officers similarly handcuffed his wife, Pamela, and their 17-year-old son with their guns drawn.

As the troopers were putting the family members inside the patrol car, one of the Smoak family dogs, a boxer-bulldog mix named Patton, came out of the car and headed toward one of the Cookeville officers who were assisting the THP troopers.

"That officer had a flashlight on his shotgun, and the dog was going toward that light, and the officer shot him, just blew his head off," Pamela Smoak told the Herald-Citizen. "We had begged them to shut the car doors so our dogs wouldn't get out, [but] they didn't do that."

The Smoaks had been pulled over by mistake after someone reported seeing the car getting on the highway with cash flying out from behind the vehicle. James Smoak, it turns out, had mistakenly left his wallet on the roof of the car when he stopped to get gas. Someone within the THP reportedly thought a robbery had occurred, though it turns out none had.

Hall claimed he was acting in self-defense.

"I yelled at the dog to get back, but it attempted to circle me to attack, so I felt that I had no option but to protect myself," the officer wrote in a police report.

Police Chief Bob Terry told the Herald-Citizen, "We are aware there is a lot of criticism out there over this incident, and we want to take [Hall] off the road and let him perform other duties while we get this all resolved." Terry stressed that Hall was not being punished for killing the dog.

The Herald-Citizen reports that "to an average viewer, the scene recorded on the video may not demonstrate the aggressiveness or the threat the officer said he experienced as the dog came toward him."

Terry said he will have two unrelated police agencies perform independent reviews of the incident.

"We once again extend our deepest concerns to the Smoak family for their loss," Terry said. "We know this was a terrible experience for them, and we truly wish that we could undo the events that occurred on the night of Jan. 1."

The Smoaks recently told their story on CNN's "Connie Chung Tonight."

Speaking of Patton, son Brandon Smoak told Chung, "He's the gentlest dog that I've ever been around. He's like Scooby Doo. He wasn't mean at all."


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To: ambrose
BTW - I'm sure you know this already, did you see where the notorious Bob Ricks is working?
301 posted on 01/09/2003 2:56:59 PM PST by Stew Padasso
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To: Swordmaker
This is, as I have said before, a trajedy...

Yes, it is.

This chain of unfortunate events has enough mistakes to go around:

No, I can't accept that. I have a problem with the felony stop to start with. There was no felony reported, the dispatcher communicated poorly with the officers and the officers did not take the time after pulling the car over to get more information. I would rather sit in my car for half an hour with the police behind me getting needed information, than sit on the side of the road handcuffed. They should have requested better information on the vehicle and the reason this car was wanted and waited.

In a felony stop, the police give clear and concise instructions and you follow them - to the letter. Which was the bigger mistake on the part of the Smoaks in your opinion, Mr. Smoaks closing his door and dropping his hands (several times) or Mrs. Smoaks and her son exiting the passenger side with their hands constantly in the air, leaving the door left open?

In the controlled situation of a felony stop, who is responsible for securing the doors, keeping the dogs seen and known to be in the car, in the car, on a busy highway during a felony stop? The THP officer who swept the car was.

For me there's no way around it, the THP is responsible for Patton getting out of the car and Officer Hall subsequently shooting him.

And to all the JBT wackos on this thread, I'm the one applauding the cops for enforcing Darwinism when they weed you out of the gene pool for stupidity.

302 posted on 01/09/2003 2:57:37 PM PST by optimistically_conservative
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To: dirtboy
"Shooting the family pooch resonates with mainstream America."

This is what I am talking about as a cultural problem. This story will resonate, but incompetents like Louis Freeh will go on with there lives with their retirement benefits intact.
303 posted on 01/09/2003 2:58:43 PM PST by Stew Padasso
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To: from occupied ga
Odds are 99.99999999999% that they are self insured and it will come out of the taxpayers' pockets.

Normally, I resent it when taxpayers get the tab for something like this hung around their necks, but these idiots in Cookeville elected the Mayor responsible for these trigger-happy morons, so screw 'em.



304 posted on 01/09/2003 3:01:14 PM PST by who knows what evil?
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To: Wordsmith
I will not play the "dishonest broker" in the Ruby Ridge matter since the only facts we have are that a sniper wasted a woman with a heavily armed infant. The problem is that Whitcomb had to submit his book to the FBI for screening before it was published. It is no different from myself if I had to submit a publication to the DOD. If I wrote what I knew, my screen name would dissappear tommorrow, thus my tempered, though somewhat vile commetary at times. I will simply say that your assessment of a "higher authority" authorizing the assasination of Mrs. Weaver is correct. I'll leave it at that.
305 posted on 01/09/2003 3:06:36 PM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: Stew Padasso
actually, I missed that one. Who is he?
306 posted on 01/09/2003 3:08:10 PM PST by ambrose
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To: dirtboy
For you.
(c8
308 posted on 01/09/2003 3:09:45 PM PST by BibChr
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To: JohnHuang2
...I yelled at the dog to get back, but it attempted to circle me to attack [ "to attack" is a BIG, unsubstantiated assumption], so I felt [admits he was not thinking] that I had no option [correction - he is too stupid to think of another option that would be reasonable, justifiable, and mitigating to the situation] but to protect myself," the officer wrote in a police report....

This idiot's report can be used like a shovel to bury his own ass.

309 posted on 01/09/2003 3:22:43 PM PST by HighWheeler
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To: BibChr
Your story might be relevant if the family had been reported as 'dangerous felons' and if there dog had actually attacked. Why do you repeat the lie that the dog attacked, when people who have viewed the tape say that the dog's behaviour was clearly not an attack? Are you dishonestly ignoring the issue, or are you just too dumb to figure it out?
310 posted on 01/09/2003 3:28:52 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: dirtboy
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311 posted on 01/09/2003 3:33:45 PM PST by BibChr
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To: headsonpikes
there are a couple of handfulls of posters on this forum who, by the consistent nature of their posts, should be considered little more than trolls in good graces. They don't ever cross the lines of propriety that would result in banning, but they routinely post material that is in some way "over the top," an exaggerated point of view that serves to derail a train of thought on affected threads.
312 posted on 01/09/2003 3:33:59 PM PST by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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To: ambrose
Waco FBI Government Goon: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Waco+Bob+Ricks

Now heading Homeland Security dept. for OK: http://www.youroklahoma.com/homelandsecurity/

313 posted on 01/09/2003 3:38:35 PM PST by Stew Padasso
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
OK, since you're the most abusive and biggest wacko on this thread, I'll ask you. Where do you think the LEOs get the authority to perform a no knock raid in full body armor with guns locked, loaded and off safe? The courts? The legislators? NO, US, dope. We're the ones who watched increasing violence and crime on our streets while we cowered in our houses, elected ever increasing politicians who swore to get tough on crime with sweeping legislation giving greater power to law enforcement and constraining the courts - each time whittling away our rights and turning us all guilty until proven innocent. We demanded longer prison sentences and higher taxes to put more of our neighbors in jail while demanding tougher gun control and less vigilantism/independance.

We convinced ourselves that anything bad that happened to us was someone elses fault and they had to pay. We demanded more of our neighbors tax money to pay for services we chose not to provide ourselves and make sure wealth was fairly (if not evenly) distributed.

Your JBT tunnel vision causes you to not recognize the real cause of what you criticize, and alienates the reasoned thinkers that are trying to fix what 40 years has wrought. Try taking the tin foil off your head long enough to read this and understand:

Although we give lip service to the notion of freedom, we know the government is no longer the servant of the people but, at last has become the people's master. We have stood by like timid sheep while the wolf killed, first the weak, then the strays, then those on the outer edges of the flock, until at last the entire flock belonged to the wolf. We did not care about the weak or about the strays. They were not a part of the flock. We did not care about those on the outer edges. They had chosen to be there. But as the wolf worked its way towards the center of the flock we discovered that we were now on the outer edges. Now we must look the wolf squarely in the eye. That we did not do so when the first of us was ripped and torn and eaten was the first wrong. It was our wrong. (Gerry Spence)

314 posted on 01/09/2003 3:38:43 PM PST by optimistically_conservative
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To: Dimensio
Thithillian Bump
315 posted on 01/09/2003 3:41:06 PM PST by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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To: dirtboy
And he's saying that Dan did not say what you claim that Dan said. You claim that Dan said 'if', but Dan clearly did not have an 'if' there.
316 posted on 01/09/2003 3:49:12 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: optimistically_conservative
"Where do you think the LEOs get the authority to perform a no knock raid in full body armor with guns locked, loaded and off safe? The courts? The legislators? NO, US, dope."

Who is US? A lot of folks have been raising the red flag for some time, and they have not been timid little sheep.

Federal and local law enforcement has been merging and training with the military under the guise of the FBI for years. The chickens are coming home to roost and the kooks who spoke up years ago don't look so silly, they are only angrier and frustrated.

"alienates the reasoned thinkers that are trying to fix what 40 years has wrought. Try taking the tin foil off your head long enough to read this and understand:"

Your type of reasoned thinking has gotten us into this mess. Maybe a little in your face tactics and colorful language is exactly what the government should hear?

318 posted on 01/09/2003 4:05:23 PM PST by Stew Padasso
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
I was just gonna say, why would anyone post a quote from that panty waste liberal Spence?

Somehow, I do not feel guilty for the situation we are in.
319 posted on 01/09/2003 4:08:36 PM PST by Stew Padasso
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
Ah come on .... tell the idiot what you really think ...
320 posted on 01/09/2003 4:10:46 PM PST by clamper1797
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To: Stew Padasso
Thank you. As a former soldier and LEO, I do not either. My friends in law enforcement blame people like that idiot who think that "protection at any cost" is a great way to run the nation. That p*ssy shoud strap it up and get shot and shot at like the rest of us. Of course that would infer that he had the cahones to do more than fire off more than a round from a keyboard...
321 posted on 01/09/2003 4:11:04 PM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: clamper1797
"Ah come on .... tell the idiot what you really think ."

You mean I was too shy and not up front enough???? LOL
322 posted on 01/09/2003 4:11:50 PM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
BTW ... an excerpt from my profile ...

Anti WOD (because of the police state it causes) ironically my three best friends are retired LEO's including an ex-undercover narcotics officer. It's telling that each of these ex-LEO's are also very anti-WOD in it's present form.

323 posted on 01/09/2003 4:12:41 PM PST by clamper1797
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
You mean I was too shy and not up front enough???? LOL

Maybe you need to express yourself with a little more firmness. That shyness will getcha every time :<)

324 posted on 01/09/2003 4:14:22 PM PST by clamper1797
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To: Admin Moderator
I will page you from in here as opposed to doing a vanity, I am sure you will see it regardless.

I don't know about the rest of FR, but on the main "News/Activism" page, where all the thread replies are listed I keep seeing these HUGE, absolutely monstrous "message boxes" appear... Right at the top, above the thread titles.

Several of them have been quite lengthy, many paragraphs.. The last one contained this:

There was some stuff from "Greyfox" in there previously also.

Is FR broken by chance? Is this normal and if so can I SHUT IT OFF somehow? (cause it's really annoying)

Regards.

325 posted on 01/09/2003 4:14:29 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Jhoffa_
And I just checked again and now (of course) it's gone..

"Poof" just like that..

What the heck was that?

327 posted on 01/09/2003 4:17:06 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: clamper1797
Ok, I'll spell it out for the DUliterate who lurk here in the future. Not that they will respond. 99.9% of them are just here to piss my type off....
328 posted on 01/09/2003 4:18:13 PM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: optimistically_conservative
Awww, come on...you can reply. We won't make much more fun of you...who is your next quote from? Hitlery Clinton? OJ's legal team? We're just dying for your response Mr. Liberal Know it all posing as a FReeper....(well, maybe not)
329 posted on 01/09/2003 4:26:27 PM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: Jhoffa_
Saw it too. Maybe it's a version of the irritating thingy Jim used to have up that ran a post from the [state] locale page. Those always went away, too, after you refreshed the page.
330 posted on 01/09/2003 5:08:02 PM PST by petuniasevan (This site is still free to use. But do the right thing. Help support FR!)
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To: petuniasevan
This one remained for a while and even changed when you refreshed the page..

I am just glad someone else saw it!

331 posted on 01/09/2003 5:10:24 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: optimistically_conservative
STILL waiting for your clever reply p*ss boy. Is Mr. Spence unavailable for comment, or have the DUposters not given you enough ammo to reply yet???
332 posted on 01/09/2003 5:31:42 PM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: JohnHuang2
Big brave police man.

No more money for cop charities from me. Let 'em invest in life insurance for their families.

333 posted on 01/09/2003 5:53:27 PM PST by PLMerite
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To: dcwusmc
.... I hope your chains rest lightly...

Damn, you're getting all soft on us. I certainly don't wish him any such luxury.

334 posted on 01/09/2003 6:09:35 PM PST by DAnconia55
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
I apologize for not replying sooner, but unlike some armchair blowhards with nothing better to do, I have limited time to spend answering small minded, uninformed wanna-be's like you.

Too bad you didn't take the time to read the letter from Spence when he decided to defend Frank Weaver during the Ruby Ridge trials. But then, asking someone as intelligent and omniscient as you to broaden your reading materials beyond Guns & Ammo and Playboy may be asking a lot.

And exactly what were you doing to maintain the honor of law enforcement while wearing the badge that has brought about the JBT you despise so much, or were you one of those whiney pricks that couldn't be found when leadership and responsibility were needed.

And exactly what did you do to prevent the degradation of our country from 93-2001?

And before you question my ideology or patriotism, get to know me. I'm the dumb prick that has spent my Christmases deployed away from my family several years in a row over the past decade. Killing dumbF*s is how I put food on the table. Florida is full of them I hear.
335 posted on 01/09/2003 6:17:08 PM PST by optimistically_conservative
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To: JohnHuang2
Could someone please list the home address of Officer Eric Hall?
338 posted on 01/09/2003 6:43:51 PM PST by Edmund Burke
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
14 pound Boxer Bulldog

Typo?

I was deployed in Panama, Israel, Saudi, Kuwait, Iraq, Thailand, Indonesia, Burma (I hate the new name), South Korea, Israel, Turkey, Egypt, and believe it or not Kenya. Why?

Let me guess, you were directing traffic as an MP.

Is that what your purpose in life is? To be herded like a God Damn bleeting sheep???????

Nope, I'm the one carrying the stick.

339 posted on 01/09/2003 6:44:01 PM PST by optimistically_conservative
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
Pennsylvania - from a long line of farm boys.
341 posted on 01/09/2003 6:55:32 PM PST by optimistically_conservative
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To: optimistically_conservative
"Why?"

Because that's was where I was told to go. I never asked. I just did as I was told. You don't earn the bars by being nosey. You did your job, did it well and made points on your performance in the PRE-Klintoon military. Believe it or not, we were at war with radical Islam long before 2001.
342 posted on 01/09/2003 6:55:57 PM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: optimistically_conservative
"Pennsylvania - from a long line of farm boys."

Florida here. A real native. From a long line of boys who served from Sherman (ughh when my family was in Ohio), then MacArthur through the current generation. I'll back my family history up any day. Especially my older family's Ohio heritage and my Dad's in Lebanon, Dominican Republic, and Latin America.
343 posted on 01/09/2003 6:58:16 PM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: JohnHuang2
��5{�������� at the dog to get back, but it attempted to circle me to attack, so I felt that I had no option but to protect myself," the officer wrote in a police report.

Wow... I didn't know dogs are supposed to understand the command 'Get back'.

344 posted on 01/09/2003 7:06:05 PM PST by Frohickey
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To: optimistically_conservative
Panama, Israel, Saudi, Kuwait, Iraq, Thailand, Indonesia, Burma (I hate the new name), South Korea, Israel, Turkey, Egypt

We've been to many of the same places - Germany, Saudi, Kuwait, Iraq, Cuba, Haiti, Panama, Ecuador, Peru, Thailand, South Korea ...

No purple hearts.

345 posted on 01/09/2003 7:10:28 PM PST by optimistically_conservative
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To: Monitor
If it were up to me, the cop would be given three choices.
(snip)
3) Allow himself to be decapitated, via 12 gauge.

Cmon. Isn't that a bit harsh? This is only a dog, and the police officer is a human. Night and day difference.

Cop should apologize to the family. Offer to pay for another dog, and burial of the dead dog.

Cop also needs remedial training as well.

346 posted on 01/09/2003 7:16:12 PM PST by Frohickey
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
. . . as to beleive a 14 pound Boxer Bulldog is a threat to you

It sure wouldn't be a threat to me. Not for long, anyway. I'd just blow its head off too.

It has its teeth. I have a gun. It loses.

I have no patience for aggressive dogs that act like they want even a little piece of me.

347 posted on 01/09/2003 7:18:33 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: Frohickey
Cop should apologize to the family. Offer to pay for another dog, and burial of the dead dog.

It would be a decent gesture.

But if it were to happen again: *Bang*

348 posted on 01/09/2003 7:20:07 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: Kevin Curry
You'd wet your pants if a dog came after you.
349 posted on 01/09/2003 7:25:41 PM PST by Stew Padasso
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To: tio_lot
I have had very little interaction with cops outside of the occassional traffic ticket, but when I approach to tell them of an incident (a lady was beaten on a bus; someone was entering an apartment after a burglary suspect was arrested there), they seem like condescending jerks.

Agreed.

When I get stopped by traffic cops, I turn on my overhead dome lights, I turn off the ignition, put the car keys on the dash, make very slow movements, follow the cop's instructions, and put my hands on the steering wheel when they approach.

The last time I had to talk to a cop was to sign off on a fix-it ticket. There were THREE cops manning the front desk over at San Jose PD headquarters, and not one wanted to go sign-off on the ticket. Doesn't matter that it was Santa Clara Sheriff that wrote it. These cops were just plain lazy.

Administrative duty, is a cush job. Sure, its boring and not 'prestigious' as patrol, but its a cush job.

350 posted on 01/09/2003 7:25:45 PM PST by Frohickey
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