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Cop took just 3 seconds to shoot dog
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Thursday, January 9, 2003

Posted on 01/08/2003 11:35:54 PM PST by JohnHuang2

The Tennessee policeman who shot and killed a family's dog during a terrorizing traffic stop took just three seconds to slay the animal after it jumped out its owners' car, reports the Cookeville Herald-Citizen.

Law-enforcement authorities released a videotape of the incident yesterday, which shows the three-second time frame on the tape's counter.

The Cookeville police officer who shot the dog, Eric Hall, has since been reassigned to administrative duties while the incident is probed.

As WorldNetDaily reported, the Smoak family was returning to their home in North Carolina on New Year's Day when three police cars swarmed their vehicle on Interstate 40 in what appeared to be a traffic stop.


The Smoaks appear on CNN

A Tennessee Highway Patrol officer broadcast orders over a bullhorn for driver James Smoak to toss the keys out of the car window, get out with his hands up and walk backwards to the rear of the car. Smoak obeyed and was subsequently ordered onto his knees and handcuffed at gunpoint. Officers similarly handcuffed his wife, Pamela, and their 17-year-old son with their guns drawn.

As the troopers were putting the family members inside the patrol car, one of the Smoak family dogs, a boxer-bulldog mix named Patton, came out of the car and headed toward one of the Cookeville officers who were assisting the THP troopers.

"That officer had a flashlight on his shotgun, and the dog was going toward that light, and the officer shot him, just blew his head off," Pamela Smoak told the Herald-Citizen. "We had begged them to shut the car doors so our dogs wouldn't get out, [but] they didn't do that."

The Smoaks had been pulled over by mistake after someone reported seeing the car getting on the highway with cash flying out from behind the vehicle. James Smoak, it turns out, had mistakenly left his wallet on the roof of the car when he stopped to get gas. Someone within the THP reportedly thought a robbery had occurred, though it turns out none had.

Hall claimed he was acting in self-defense.

"I yelled at the dog to get back, but it attempted to circle me to attack, so I felt that I had no option but to protect myself," the officer wrote in a police report.

Police Chief Bob Terry told the Herald-Citizen, "We are aware there is a lot of criticism out there over this incident, and we want to take [Hall] off the road and let him perform other duties while we get this all resolved." Terry stressed that Hall was not being punished for killing the dog.

The Herald-Citizen reports that "to an average viewer, the scene recorded on the video may not demonstrate the aggressiveness or the threat the officer said he experienced as the dog came toward him."

Terry said he will have two unrelated police agencies perform independent reviews of the incident.

"We once again extend our deepest concerns to the Smoak family for their loss," Terry said. "We know this was a terrible experience for them, and we truly wish that we could undo the events that occurred on the night of Jan. 1."

The Smoaks recently told their story on CNN's "Connie Chung Tonight."

Speaking of Patton, son Brandon Smoak told Chung, "He's the gentlest dog that I've ever been around. He's like Scooby Doo. He wasn't mean at all."


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To: dtel
Couldn't agree more.

When I was 7 or 8, I got bit in the face by a farmers dog, which left a nice gash on my forehead. My folks washed and patched the wound, and never took me to the doctor...

...until about 3 days later to get a rabies shot. And another one a week later. These were the old-fashioned rabies shots that they gave in the lower abdomen.

The dog was fine after 2 weeks, so they stopped the series of shots.

Anyway, I was not traumatized, I did not get counseling, and I continued to be friends with this dog until he died a few years later.

541 posted on 01/11/2003 5:34:38 PM PST by Ken H
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To: dtel
"So now the shooter is the victim. These truly are strange times."

I didn't say the shooter was the victim. I do however give him the benefit of the doubt in the shooting.

I just said he looked like the model of restaint relative to the people on this board.

542 posted on 01/11/2003 5:34:55 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: delacoert
I am convinced that nationally televised video supposedly showing police engaged in brutality is always interpreted by the "huddled masses" in an emotional way, rather than a rational way.

You are right, of course.

There would be far, far less outcry if Hall had been off-duty when this happened. Even less concern if he were just an ordinary joe responding--however erroneously--to what he considered a threat to his personal safety. Most of these nuts just despise cops.

543 posted on 01/11/2003 5:39:04 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: delacoert
I can tell you it makes me leery of taking my dogs anywhere with me.
I see the Texas Revenue Enhancement Team with vehicles pulled over every time I venture onto I-20, the fact 90% are black is a whole 'nother subject, the doors and trunks wide open.
Three seconds.
One thousand one
One thousand two
One thousand three
Only option, kill dog.
This doesn't seem like a reasonable response to me.
544 posted on 01/11/2003 5:41:35 PM PST by dtel (Texas Longhorn cattle for sale at all times. We don't rent pigs)
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To: Ken H
Your post reminds me of the idiot liberal British newsman who got beat to a pulp in Afghanistan and hurried to assure everyone that his assailants weren't at fault, that he "deserved" his beating.

I'm not frightened of a pitbull or any other aggressive dog running loose that might menacingly approach me or a member of my family on a public street. If I don't have a gun with me, maybe I'll pick up a large rock or two and pop it on the old bean. But if I have my handgun, *bang.*

It's really pretty simple.

545 posted on 01/11/2003 5:46:07 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: Ken H
My granny's neighbor had a mean ass Dashound (weiner dog) that she let out every day when I came home for lunch as a second grader. Would chase me all the way to my door.
After a week of this foolishness I kicked old Fritz square in the head and we got along just fine after that.
Deadly force was not needed then or in this instance either. Period.
546 posted on 01/11/2003 5:49:24 PM PST by dtel (Texas Longhorn cattle for sale at all times. We don't rent pigs)
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To: DannyTN
I think he is taking the heat for every gripe and fear these people have had with government since they were born.

They are railroading him in a merciless frenzy of lynch mob mentality, that makes Officer Hall look like the model of restraint.

That too. I couldn't agree more.

547 posted on 01/11/2003 5:49:57 PM PST by delacoert
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To: dtel
This doesn't seem like a reasonable response to me.

Yeah. Everbody knows you're supposed to wait until they bite.

548 posted on 01/11/2003 5:50:03 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: DannyTN
So why is he wandering around a police stop with a loaded and cocked shotgun anyway? Was he planning on blasting off the head of one of vacationers? Did he not have a pistol? Of what possible use was a shotgun in this instance? He was never more than 10 feet away from the detainees. Perhaps blasting a 8-inch hole in someone's stomach or blasting off their head is your idea of how a cop should behave in this situation, but it's not mine. I have no feeling for the dog, my concern is for what he could have done to one of the people and whether or not I have to fear for my own life the next time I travel through Tennessee.
549 posted on 01/11/2003 5:50:23 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty" not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
He was a Cookeville officer who was called in to serve backup to the Tennessee State Police while they made the felony stop. He was effectively supposed to be guarding their backs. So it was the Tennessee State Troopers who left the door open, and Cookeville officer was just unfortunate enough to be the one the dog came toward.
550 posted on 01/11/2003 5:56:27 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: eno_
NONE of the apologists for the police have said one word about how to improve policing.

The bootlickers who are defending this thug, would be the first in line to call for the arrest and prosecution of Joe Q. Citizen, who carried a handgun and shot a REAL attacking dog with it.

They would also defend the police stealing Joe Q.'s gun.

However, when one of their 'gods' shoot an innocent puppy dog, their attitude is that the family should thank the JBT's for not shooting them as well or for not charging them with some phony felony.

I wish the bootlicking brigades would get the hell out of my country, and go somewhere that their attitudes are welcome like China or Russia.

551 posted on 01/11/2003 5:58:26 PM PST by Mulder
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To: Kevin Curry
"Yeah. Everbody knows you're supposed to wait until they bite."

That is a pretty lame response, and entirely discounts the fact four other officers were present, the owners were handcuffed, the officers let the effing dog out anyway and the lady screamed the dog won't bite.
Other than that, I agree he did the right thing.
Give him a promotion, make him Captain.

552 posted on 01/11/2003 5:58:37 PM PST by dtel (Texas Longhorn cattle for sale at all times. We don't rent pigs)
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To: Mulder
At least they are not here in response to the police breaking into the wrong house at 3 am and shooting some innocent bloke in the chest.
Those are the ones that make me shudder.
553 posted on 01/11/2003 6:04:04 PM PST by dtel (Texas Longhorn cattle for sale at all times. We don't rent pigs)
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To: FreedomCalls
I watched the news report and the video. I find the story quite disturbing for several reasons. The anonymous caller said the vehicle was traveling 110 miles and hour. No one seemed to question that. I wonder how fast it was going. I am willing to bet it was not 110 mph. She said there was money all over the Interstate, but what robbers would scatter their loot? That is a wild assumption - not at all logical.

Arriving on the scene the police should have been cautious but not so eager to cuff people behind their backs. I am on the side of the police, but not when they are out of control. How many felons fit this profile - a mother, a father, and a teen?

Finally I see a dog running and wagging his tail. It's hard to tell much from the vido. We have a very loyal Sheltie. She always warns men with growling and barking. Her threat behavior is quite obvious. She has not bitten anyone. I do not see justification for blowing the family's dog away. If I had a family cuffed (I am not in law enforcement), the family dog could be a threat but not much of one.

I see a big lawsuit settled in favor of the family. The guilty people involved (dispatcher, officers) need some training and a refresher course in constitutional law.

The phoned report reminds me of the story about a woman who never saw an elephant before. It escaped from the circus and was eating grass on her front lawn. She reported that it had two tails. It was twitching the little one. "And what is it doing with the other one?" The lady responded, "It's stuffing grass...oh, you will never believe me!"
554 posted on 01/11/2003 6:10:41 PM PST by Chemnitz (Protect the weakest of the weak - the unborn)
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To: DannyTN
He was effectively supposed to be guarding their backs.

With a 12-gauge shotgun? What in the world was he going to do if they needed help?

555 posted on 01/11/2003 6:14:49 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty" not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: dtel
I can tell you it makes me leery of taking my dogs anywhere with me.

About three years ago, I was pulled over by an OHP trooper for exceeding the speed limit :/ while driving on I-35 through Oklahoma City. It was after dark and I had my wife, daughters and two dogs with me. The dogs growled and the trooper was visibly shaken and he put his hand on his side arm. He made me get out of my van and sit with him in his cruiser while he wrote me up. He was pretty surly with me the whole time. I'm sure his intitially evident fear and subsequent anger was because of the dogs.

Regardless of my thoughts regarding the trooper's demeanour, I travel with the dogs in restraint harnesses secured to seat belts, both then and now. It's much safer for me because the dogs can't roam around the vehicle and cause problems. It's much safer for the dogs because they can't be thrown around in the event of an accident. And in the light of both my experience in Oklahoma City and the experience of the Smoaks in Cookeville, TN, restraining your dogs in the car has definite advantages if you are pulled over by the police.

556 posted on 01/11/2003 6:15:10 PM PST by delacoert
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To: yarddog
You are right. Those people have got to have feared for their lives.
557 posted on 01/11/2003 6:32:42 PM PST by mel
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To: Ken H
I liked that story about you and the dog being friends
558 posted on 01/11/2003 6:36:30 PM PST by mel
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To: Mulder
The bootlickers who are defending this thug,

It's not just "bootlickers". I agree there are posters who defend every cop action against what they view as the "cop hater" crowd. The argument between the "cop haters" and the "boot lickers" will go on until the end of time.

I simply watched the video and expected to see the cop execute a cowering dog. Instead I saw three cops concerned about the dog (one asking about the type, two pointing their weapons at it), and I saw the dog rush into camera view just before the cop shot it. It didn't seem surprising that he shot it. Other people who are not "cop haters" swear that the dog was friendly, etc. I can't judge that from the tape, but it's clear that the cops were concerned.

I also listened to the family's anguish and read about the sloppy police work before and after the incident. I sincerely hope the police sloppiness is fixed permanently.

559 posted on 01/11/2003 6:42:24 PM PST by palmer
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To: mel
We were in the barn using a noisy, hand cranked corn shucker on a hot day.

"Snooky" picked up an ear of corn, and I said, "No Snooky. Put that down."

He did.

560 posted on 01/11/2003 7:00:10 PM PST by Ken H
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