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Senators: Bush Needs to Do More on Iraq (closed door session)
abc ^ | 1/23/03

Posted on 01/23/2003 6:19:34 PM PST by knak

Senators said Thursday the Bush administration needs to convince the American people and U.S. allies that war may be needed against Iraq.

More than 50 senators received a closed-door briefing on Iraq from Secretary of State Colin Powell and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said the secretaries weren't notifying Congress of a decision to use military force in Iraq. The administration said that has not been determined.

Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., said Rumsfeld and Powell laid out a stronger case than the administration had before about why force might be needed to stop Saddam. But he said the information would not be strong enough to persuade reluctant allies, like France and did not convince him that the United States should act against Iraq without more support.

"It would seem to me to be by far the better part of wisdom to have an aggressive inspections regime buttressed by our intelligence, so that we are providing them cues on where to go," he said.

The top Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee, Carl Levin of Michigan, said the United States has just begun to share information with the U.N. inspectors. "And my view is that there is a significant way to go before we share the information," he said.

Rumsfeld told reporters as he left the Capitol "the inspectors are being provided with an enormous amount of information already."

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said he agrees with President Bush's handling of Iraq, but believes the president needs to explain to the American people "why we as Americans should shoulder the burden the money burden, the human sacrifice."

Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., said she was concerned about opposition from U.S. allies. "I think it would be very difficult for us to pursue this without military and monetary support," she said.

The chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., said Powell will continue working with France and other countries on the U.N. Security Council after Monday's report by chief weapons inspector Hans Blix.


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To: MonroeDNA
What bet?
41 posted on 01/23/2003 7:56:52 PM PST by antaresequity
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To: antaresequity
Color me naive, but I think that invading Iraq (which is comig soon to a theater near you) will boost Dubya, and Frist.

The dems will find themselves in even more of a weak position than they already are in. They will be the ones trying to make deals.
42 posted on 01/23/2003 7:58:04 PM PST by MonroeDNA (What's the frequency, Kenneth?)
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To: MonroeDNA
Please...the Dems are not sitting back waiting to see if we go to war...they know we are...right now...today is when they make there move...

I hate the scum rats as much as the next guy...but they are not totally stupid.

They will leverage their postion.

Wouldn't you?

43 posted on 01/23/2003 8:01:14 PM PST by antaresequity
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To: MonroeDNA
I see you are here, and posting to other threads.

So will you put your money where your mouth is? Or are you avoiding the bet?
44 posted on 01/23/2003 8:02:37 PM PST by MonroeDNA (What's the frequency, Kenneth?)
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To: Irish Eyes
only 50+- Senators showed up for ths closed door meeting.

I hadn't heard this! How the heck can they complain that Bush hasn't kept them informed if they don't go to the briefings? I would love a list of who attended and who refused.
45 posted on 01/23/2003 8:08:24 PM PST by gitmo ("The course of this conflict is not known, yet its outcome is certain." GWB)
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To: MonroeDNA
I predict we'll invade Iraq within a year from today.

No, you post a date, and we'll see who gets closer. I said six months before the next presidential, so May 2004. You specify the month you predict we're going in.

46 posted on 01/23/2003 8:12:44 PM PST by The Great Satan
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To: antaresequity
My point is that: Its gonna cost politcally on the domestic and economic agenda.

A succesful Iraq campaign will boost Bush's political clout, and further his domestic and economic agenda.

No doubt we are going. The decision has already been made. It has been made such that we are in Baghdad by the end of February.

I'll bet Iraq is crawling with Special Ops guys.
47 posted on 01/23/2003 8:15:20 PM PST by gitmo ("The course of this conflict is not known, yet its outcome is certain." GWB)
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To: The Great Satan
So you agree to the terms of the bet?

Yes, I will post a month, and actually a date.
48 posted on 01/23/2003 8:17:15 PM PST by MonroeDNA (What's the frequency, Kenneth?)
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To: antaresequity
"Deals are getting cut daily in Washington. There is a Lions share of political capital on the table right now!

To think otherwise is naive.

I'm with section 9 on this one. The dims are the ones that are naive. They only have a draw to an inside straight and Bush is holding an ace high full house. Time and time again Bush has proven his mettle and you sir have wobbly legs.
49 posted on 01/23/2003 8:17:27 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: antaresequity

Bollocks.

Of course Bush doesn't operate in a political vacuum, but if we win this war going away, where is his incentive to cave?

Be Seeing You,

Chris

50 posted on 01/23/2003 8:18:15 PM PST by section9 (John Edwards: The Other Empty Suit....)
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To: The Great Satan
No trick, either.
51 posted on 01/23/2003 8:19:19 PM PST by MonroeDNA (What's the frequency, Kenneth?)
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To: The Great Satan
Let's hear you agree to the terms, and then I'll post my day and time. It's less than 6 months, BTW.
52 posted on 01/23/2003 8:22:30 PM PST by MonroeDNA (What's the frequency, Kenneth?)
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To: gitmo
I'll bet Iraq is crawling with Special Ops guys.

I hope they have a fix on Saddam and his thug sons and are watching them minute-by-minute, ready to call in the full force of the American war machine on the few acres surrounding their sorry carcases. Take out the head, the Republican Guard, and Iraq will implode.

53 posted on 01/23/2003 8:23:03 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: section9
Love your insight, and your amime thing.
54 posted on 01/23/2003 8:23:12 PM PST by MonroeDNA (What's the frequency, Kenneth?)
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To: The Great Satan
You specify the month you predict we're going in.

Feb '03.

55 posted on 01/23/2003 8:23:21 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: MonroeDNA
Yes, I will post a month, and actually a date.

Okay, do so. I have already.

BTW, better not pick one of the following dates -- the've already been used, over on the Attack on Iraq Betting Pool thread:

My bet is for January 2, 2003 at 2:17 P.M Eastern Standard Time.

November 21, 2002 at 6:02 P.M. CST

September 14, 2002, 1:33 p.m. CST

5:29 PM Central Standard Time December 20th 2002.

9/11/02 7pm EST

November 7, 2002 6:00pm Central.

Sunday night, September 8, 2002, 7:45P ET

November 22, 2002, 6pm et.

October 6, 2002, 23:30 local time.

With the new moon, on December 7, 2002, 3:00 AM Baghdad time, 0:00 UTC (ZULU).

Saturday, October 5, 2002

December 2nd, 2002, 7:00pm EST.

My bet is for November 2, 2002 at 5:21 PM EST

My bet is November 11, 2002 at 7:05 PM EST

October 6, 2002 10:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time.

Sept 15, 2002, 01:13am Bagdad time

October 6, 2002; 8:10 p.m. EST

October 8th, 2002 - 4:10pm EDT

September 10, 2002

14SEP02 1900hrs EST

Tuesday September 7th 2002 (New Moon)

October 1st 2002 @ 6:00PM GMT

56 posted on 01/23/2003 8:24:37 PM PST by The Great Satan
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To: MonroeDNA
Let's hear you agree to the terms, and then I'll post my day and time. It's less than 6 months, BTW.

What's the hold up? I already showed you my prediction. Now you show me yours. Why are you hedging?

57 posted on 01/23/2003 8:25:49 PM PST by The Great Satan
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To: The Great Satan
I'm not in for that dollar thing or the superior intelligence aspect either.
58 posted on 01/23/2003 8:28:15 PM PST by Fred Mertz (I calls 'em as I sees dem)
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To: Fred Mertz
That's fine. We differ in our analyses.
59 posted on 01/23/2003 8:30:28 PM PST by The Great Satan
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To: The Great Satan
Taking over/controlling Iraq will be fairly routine, how to take Baghdad & Noriega, I mean Saddam, that's the tricky part.
60 posted on 01/23/2003 8:33:22 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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