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The Perfidy Of The French...
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| Jan. 24, 2003
| Stephen Rittenberg
Posted on 01/24/2003 9:42:40 AM PST by FBD
"To the French lying is simply talking" -- Fran Lebowitz
January 24, 2003: The utopian fantasists in our State Dept., having persuaded Pres. Bush to place his faith in the UN are now obliged to face reality. Will they?
Colin Powell, the chief utopian, argued against deposing Saddam in 1991 in favor of the wishful fantasy that military defeat would be sufficient to defang him. It wasn't, because in Saddam's psychopathic world of brute force, survival against the United States constitutes victory and is concrete evidence of our weakness. Saddam would never allow an enemy to escape alive if he had the opportunity to kill him, for it would indicate weakness and would embolden his foes. Consequently, after the '91 war, he redoubled his efforts to acquire devastating weaponry against what he sensed was a pusillanimous foe, while we politely looked away. The danger steadily grew in the 1990's while our then President turned his attention to more pressing matters, like obtaining sexual favors from interns in the oval office.
Meanwhile, despite his disastrous advice in 1991, Colin Powell rose to ever greater power. He proved himself the quintessential diplomat whose faith lies in written agreements and who believes the way to peace is via empathic concern for our adversaries. Powell is a gifted, smooth-as-silk negotiator, who seems to have persuaded the President to treat the UN as a serious international body, rather than what it is -- a collection of mostly authoritarian and autocratic governments run by thugs with more in common with Saddam than with us. The nature of this body was again made clear by the recent overwhelming election of Libya to head the UN Human Rights commission. This placed the UN beyond parody. Yet our State Dept utopians continue to pay deference to the many countries in that august body, including some of our putative "allies," who were only too happy to see the United States suffer the blows of 9-11.
The one benefit of our seemingly endless diplomacy at the UN is the emergence of a new clarity about our "allies," France and Germany. They are working tirelessly to persuade the world that the great threat to global security emanates not from Iraq, but from the power of the United States. By appeasing Saddam through the farcical Hans Blix "inspections" (Hans Blix seems able to find his table at Rao's more easily than he can locate Baghdad), they pursue a policy that enmeshes us in endless UN process and requires us to ask permission before we can act. And while the leaders of France and Germany speak of 'peace,' what they have in mind is postponing action by the United States indefinitely. They are effectively supporting Saddam, hoping -- in the time-warmed tradition of European appeasement -- that he will turn his anthrax and Sarin against the United States rather than against his European trading partners. No doubt they will express eloquent sympathy when the U.S. counts the casualties in the next bioterror assault, courtesy of Saddam's laboratories.
And what of the endless cant about not going to war except as a last resort? Have we forgotten we are at war, a war declared on us on 9-11, that Saddam continues to wage war on his own people and on American and British pilots, and that he quite openly supports suicide terror aimed at America's one democratic ally in the Middle East?
This writer believes that it requires no Sherlock Holmes to deduce that Saddam is intimately involved with anti-American terror groups around the globe. With all this, the behavior of France and Germany can best be understood as dupicitous acts of realpolitik by countries lacking in military might, aimed at taming and weakening America's global power. And if you don't buy that rationale, then another powerful explanation has been offered by Steven den Beste who suspects that France and Germany wish to conceal the fact that for years, in violation of the UN embargo, they've been selling Saddam the building blocks for his WMD programs.
Countries change their national character about as readily as individuals. For example, William Safire documents the treachery of the French, who played Colin Powell like a violin, assuring him of support and then turning on him. Yet Powell insisted to Jim Lehrer that he had not been sandbagged by the French. Not at all; perhaps it had all been a misunderstanding that requires a bit more consultation and discussion over a fine Burgundy.
We would suggest that our diplomats be forced to read Mark Twain on the French. Long before the French added the art of appeasement to their highly developed art of cuisine he commented: "There is nothing lower than the human race -- except the French." He added: "The French are the connecting link between man & the monkey."
However, if our multicultural diplomats find Mark Twain politically incorrect and therefore not worth reading, I would then recommend the contemporary wit, Fran Lebowitz, who made the following observation: "The French probably invented the very notion of discretion. It's not that they feel that what you don't know won't hurt you, they feel that what you don't know won't hurt them. To the French lying is simply talking."
Hopefully even Colin Powell will awaken from his Dream of Reason -- the fantasy that all differences are due to misunderstandings and can be worked out through rational dialogue. If he doesn't, let's hope the President takes the policy reins out of the hands of the utopians and places them in the hands of the realists -- Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Cheney. The hour is late, the peril grows, and the temporizers are gaining strength. Peace follows victory. Hurry up please, it's time.
Stephen Rittenberg, Co-Publisher, Horsefeathers
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posted on
01/24/2003 9:42:40 AM PST
by
FBD
To: MeeknMing
PING for a good read!
2
posted on
01/24/2003 9:45:57 AM PST
by
FBD
(Let's ask the French where the nukes are; they sold equipment and helped Iraq's nuclear program.)
To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
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posted on
01/24/2003 9:54:42 AM PST
by
FBD
(Let's ask the French where the nukes are; they sold equipment and helped Iraq's nuclear program.)
To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
Le Français n'a aucun testicule!
To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
BUMP!
5
posted on
01/24/2003 10:50:29 AM PST
by
happygrl
To: SwinneySwitch; Formerly Brainwashed Democrat; maxwell
LOL ! I don't know a lick of French, but I think I can figure that one out!
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posted on
01/24/2003 1:55:49 PM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(9 out of 10 Republicans agree: Bush IS a Genius !!)
To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
PING for a good read! Thank you ! It sure is...
We would suggest that our diplomats be forced to read Mark Twain on the French. Long before the French added the art of appeasement to their highly developed art of cuisine he commented: "There is nothing lower than the human race -- except the French." He added: "The French are the connecting link between man & the monkey."
However, if our multicultural diplomats find Mark Twain politically incorrect and therefore not worth reading, I would then recommend the contemporary wit, Fran Lebowitz, who made the following observation: "The French probably invented the very notion of discretion. It's not that they feel that what you don't know won't hurt you, they feel that what you don't know won't hurt them. To the French lying is simply talking."
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posted on
01/24/2003 2:13:44 PM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(9 out of 10 Republicans agree: Bush IS a Genius !!)
To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
Ah the french they are a funny race they fight with their feet....
In the Weekend Journal section of today's Wall Street Journal is the "Tastings" column by Dorothy J Gaiter and John Brecher. That's reason enough to subscribe to the paper, But, I digress. Dorothy and John reveal that at the PARIS TASTING OF 1976,"in a head-to-head blind tasting, French judges preferred American wine..."Obviously they never got over it.
I think if French women would bathe, shave under their arms and shave their legs the French would have a different view of life.
To: Temple Owl
LOL! Good One! ;^)
here is some more on the French:
This from: www.conquerfrance.com
History of French "Warfare"
Gaul vs. Julius Caesar - Gaul defeated by Rome circa
49 B.C. (Rome defeated the early French swine - the
Frenchies had to Hail Julius Caesar as their new
leader)
Gaul vs. Franks - Gaul defeated by Franks (the
'original' French, replaced by the Franks *sigh*)
Franks vs. Huns - Huns sack Paris circa 450 A.D. (Huns
finally defeated here - Attila's ONLY defeat. Notice
it was done by a German-Roman coalition, NOT the
Franks)
Franks vs. Themselves - Clovis unites Franks into one
kingdom around 511 A.D. He dies and the 'kingdom'
falls apart at the seams. Ever hear of naming a
successor or how bout a will?
Franks vs. Muslims - Charles Martel defeats a SMALL
Muslim raiding party at the Battle of Tours in 732
A.D. Muslims lost interest so Charles claimed a
'great victory'. Notice they didn't follow up and
kick the Muslims out of Spain though.....
Franks vs. Franks - Charlemagne crowned 'Emperor of
the Romans', Christmas 800 A.D. Again this 'empire'
fell apart by 840 A.D. - sheesh. Charlemagne could
read but couldn't write - now what sense does that
make?
Franks vs. Vikings - From 841 to 911 A.D. the Viking
Warrior-Badasses mopped the Frankish countryside with
Frank ass. France surrenders Normandy to Vikings 911
A.D. (Stupid mid-evil France was easily bullied by
real warriors)
Franks vs. Black Death - 1347 - 1350 A.D. Black Death
kills Frenchies good. This plague was said to
originate in Mongolia, from the vermin. BUT, we all
know it HAD to have came from the filthy French swine.
France vs. England - 100 Years War 1337 - 1453 A.D.
Battle of Crecy - 1337 A.D. (English hand the French
their own asses in the start of the 100 Years War with
the timely use of the longbow. French knights are
mowed down like the cannon fodder they were.) Battle
of Poitiers, 1356 A.D. - More of the same. Battle of
Agincourt, 1415 A.D. - Henry V gets some French
butt-whoopin' action. Unfortunately, a heretic freak
named Joan of Arc came along and united all the French
Frogs and they managed to repel the English. And we
all know where that got her....TOASTY.
France vs. World Culture - Renaissance starts in Italy
circa 1200's, NOT IN FRANCE.
France vs. World Exploration/Economics - Commercial
Revolution starts - major players are England, Spain,
and Portugal. Notice who ISN'T on that list?
France vs. France - 1572 A.D. St. Bartholomew's Day
Massacre by Queen Catherine. She killed thousands of
protestants and Jews. Hrm...that sounds really
familiar - the FINAL SOLUTION ring any bells?
Evidently these bastards were no better than Nazi
Germany and yet they are proud of their heritage?
France vs. Europe - War of Spanish Succession 1648
A.D. (France tries to fight rest of Europe over Spain
and looses to Frederick William of Germany)
France vs. Europe - 7 Years War or French Indian War
1756 A.D. (France gets beat up on 2 different
continents by England and Germany plus the early
future Americans - a guy named George Washington ring
any bells?)
France vs. France - French Revolution 1789 - 1799A.D.
(France kicks their own asses) Dr. Guillotine makes a
handy invention that allows the Frenchies to chop off
their own heads with amazing speed - thanks Jacobin
Republicans!
France vs. Europe - Waterloo 1815 A.D. (Wellington
delivers knockout to Napoleon - 2nd time. This comes
AFTER the Russian Winter destroyed the largest army in
the World and the U.S. conned old Nappy in the
Louisiana Purchase - WHAT A BARGAIN!)
France vs. France - French Revolution (again) 1848
A.D. (France is still kicking their own asses on a
smaller scale)
France vs. Mexico - late 1860s - early 1870s A.D. -
France conquers Mexico. Wow! Amazing. What an
accomplishment. Funny though, when the U.S. decided
to enforce the Monroe Doctrine and in so many words
told France to get the HELL out of our side of the
world, they tucked tail and ran.
France vs. Prussia - Franco-Prussian War 1870 A.D.
(William I of Germany kicks the teeth out of Napoleon
III - good old Willy proclaims himself emperor of
Germany at the Palace of Versailles - can you say
bitchslap?) This all started because France opposed
the unification of Germany - notice this starts a
nasty chain of events that doesn't end till
1945......seems to me we can almost chalk up WWI and
II on the dumbass French.
France vs. Germany - WWI 1914-1918 A.D. (Germany beats
the hell out of France - without the aid of USA,
France would be speaking German. France only won
because of Uncle Sam jumped in - then those dumbass
sore-winners in France impose an incredibly harsh
Treaty of Versailles to 'punish' the Germans. Notice
the resulting conditions of this allowed the rise of
an unknown Austrian named HITLER.
France vs. Germany - Rise of Hitler 1933-1939 A.D.
(Germany bullies France into letting them take more
territory - the wussies wouldn't even fight over it -
they adopted a policy of 'appeasement' - can you say
SCARED?)
France vs. Germany Round II - WWII June 22, 1940 A.D.
(France surrenders to Hitler at Compiegne after
putting up a fight that made Polish Army look good.
Notice Vichy France who quickly jumped ship to be
friends with the Germans. And once again without the
help of good old Uncle Sam the Atlantic Wall would
never have been penetrated - France would either be a
part of the 3rd Reich or a satellite country of
Communist Russia under Uncle Joe Stalin)
France vs. Vietcong - Vietnam 1954 A.D. (French Army
at Dien Bien Phu surrender to Ho Chi Minh) Nuff Said.
MORAL:
Even before Jesus walked the face of the Earth, the
French have been getting their asses kicked. The
smelly, cheese eating, fu-fu dressing French can't
fight worth a damn. You TOO can conquer France!
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posted on
01/24/2003 5:42:06 PM PST
by
FBD
(1 week til we bomb Saddam...tick, tick, tick...)
To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
Your post #9 is a LOL beaut. I'm going to laughing all week.
To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
"The French are the connecting link between man & the monkey." Hence the sobriquet (notice the clever use of a French term!) 'surrender monkey'.
To: Temple Owl
Thanks! ;^D
my favorite part is this:
"France vs. France - French Revolution 1789 - 1799A.D.
(France kicks their own asses) Dr. Guillotine makes a
handy invention that allows the Frenchies to chop off
their own heads with amazing speed - thanks Jacobin
Republicans!"
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posted on
01/25/2003 10:31:03 AM PST
by
FBD
(1 week til we bomb Saddam...tick, tick, tick...)
To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
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posted on
01/26/2003 1:18:43 AM PST
by
FBD
To: Starboard; All
Sobriquet...I am going to remember, and use that in an abusive fasion like other French words that I love to murterlate.
In case you and others hadn't seen this in the Iconoclast:
French PM: "It's Great to Be Collaborating with Germany Again!"
1/24/2003 - William Grim
Paris - French Prime Minister Jacques Chirac, in honor of France's agreement with Germany to undermine America's efforts in the War on Terror, took German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder on a tour of sites in the French capital city that were visited by another German Chancellor, Adolf Hitler, during his famous Victory Tour of 1940.
"It's so nice to be collaborating with the Germans again," said Chirac during a press conference at the Versailles Palace outside of Paris. "I mean, it's not like there was any real resistance movement when Germany ruled us during World War II. And those black leather coats the Gestapo men wore. Simply to die for."
Most French citizens this reporter spoke with expressed their delight at being able to collaborate once again with the Germans. A recent poll conducted by the newspaper Le Figaro showed that 95.6% of all French people are hoping to be re-occupied by Germany within the next 12 months. The poll results also reveal that the vast majority of French women are especially looking forward to becoming the mistresses of German officers so that they can have sado-masochistic sex in exchange for silk stockings and extra rations.
"Damn those Americans anyway," said Chirac during a visit with Schroeder to the Klaus Barbie L'Ecole Superieure du Behaviour Criminale. "Everthing was going along just fine in 1944 and what did they go and do? Land at Normandy. Just like the Yanks, always butting their noses into other people's business. Well, we aren't going to take it lying down any more. This time we're going to surrender to Germany before the Germans have a chance to invade."
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posted on
01/26/2003 9:03:11 AM PST
by
FBD
(What else is there to say?)
To: Karl B
French bashing ping.
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posted on
01/26/2003 9:08:43 AM PST
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
Comment #16 Removed by Moderator
Comment #17 Removed by Moderator
To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
"have persuaded the President to treat the UN as a serious international body, rather than what it is -- a collection of mostly authoritarian and autocratic governments run by thugs with more in common with Saddam than with us."
Now, according to you, sir, THE ENTIRE WORLD ARE WORTHLESS AUTHORITARIANS. The UN represents membership from the entire world, and was made to help resolve conflicts PEACEFULLY! Is that unacceptable? The idea that the US alone is respectable and the rest of the world stinks causes us lots of resentments from people who rather think of themselves as equally humans.
To: Karl B
We are in for a long long bitter struggle to save the West, and we need all the allies we can get.
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posted on
01/27/2003 12:33:21 PM PST
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: philosofy123
"Now, according to you, sir, THE ENTIRE WORLD ARE WORTHLESS AUTHORITARIANS. The UN represents membership from the entire world, and was made to help resolve conflicts PEACEFULLY! Is that unacceptable? The idea that the US alone is respectable and the rest of the world stinks causes us lots of resentments from people who rather think of themselves as equally humans"No, not the entire world, pal...just the dictatorships, the commies, oh, and the French and Germans.
BTW, what did the UN do to stop 500,000 Rwandans from being slaughtered, hmmmm??? And also sir, why inthehell are Syria and China on the UN's human rights commission??? Ya ever looked at their record of human rights violations?
Damn straight, the US is more respectable than most of the rest of the world. You know how many U.S. soldiers died on D-Day to save the Frogs from German occupation? They are still buried at Normandy. Personaly, I think we ought to bring them all home to Arlington, where they would be given the proper respect that they deserve!!!
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posted on
01/28/2003 12:46:25 AM PST
by
FBD
(Get a clue, or go live in some dictatorship, and then critisize their government...)
To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
BTW, the UN's predecessor, "The League of Nations" thought that Hitler was someone they could work with. Ya, right...
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posted on
01/28/2003 12:54:04 AM PST
by
FBD
(Get a clue, or go live in some dictatorship, and then critisize their government...)
To: Travis McGee
This is a good essay, but it has one major flaw : about the time our forces were making minced meat on Mutla Ridge out of the pirate Iraqis fleeing Kuwait, Saddam fired a scud tipped with a concrete load right within 200 yards of where he told us and the Israelis he was going to samck; Saddam's accompanying message was, 'I have other things I can load into these and drop them in TelAviv, Haifa, selected targets in Saudi Arabia, etc.'
Everyone on the inside of the administration, including Colin Powell, knew what that would do to the entire Middle seast and they knew we had no credible answer for it and were not prepared to prevent it. After the inspectors went in, we found out that he did have 'other things' he could have sprinkled around the Middle East. Blaming Powel for suddenly turning 'dovish' is absurd in light of these facts. We were blackmailed.
This time around, we will not be blackmailable in the same sense. We will prevent the scud launches with technology the Iraqis cannot counter. That's why this nation will not be told of the close hour for jump time. Probably three hours into the assault, the president will inform the nation ... but CNN will already have aired the start by driving to Jordan to post.
That the entire of the democrat party seems unable to grasp the notion of blackmail tells us a lot about the rats ... they know all this and still claim they see no reason to attack Iraq.
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posted on
01/28/2003 1:03:09 AM PST
by
MHGinTN
(If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
To: philosofy123
Oh, and another fact, pal.
The French planted trees along the road leading into Paris, so the Germans could stop and rest in the shade.
FACT
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posted on
01/28/2003 1:03:16 AM PST
by
FBD
(Get a clue, or go live in some dictatorship, and then critisize their government...)
To: Karl B
Really?
Who stormed the beaches on D-day?
The French?
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posted on
01/28/2003 1:07:15 AM PST
by
FBD
(Get a clue, or go live in some dictatorship, and then critisize their government...)
To: Karl B
BTW, I'm Norwegian, and there is a 100 per cent chance that if your ancestors are French, then my ancestors kicked your ancestors butt! Ha!In fact, the Vikings dominated the Normandy area of France so much, that King Charles III gave it to them. (911 A.D.)
Look it up, it was the first Normandy invasion. LOL :^D
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posted on
01/28/2003 1:23:17 AM PST
by
FBD
(They don't call 'em frogs for nothing.)
To: Karl B
Oh those fierce french fighters...do pray tell us,why did the French plant trees along the roads leading into Paris, before the German occupation?
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posted on
01/28/2003 1:28:44 AM PST
by
FBD
(They don't call 'em frogs for nothing.)
To: Karl B
It's not the French people so much, Karl, as it's the weasel leadership.
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posted on
01/28/2003 1:29:28 AM PST
by
MHGinTN
(If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
Comment #28 Removed by Moderator
Comment #29 Removed by Moderator
Comment #30 Removed by Moderator
To: Karl B
As are you, indeed. G'nite.
Germans--
--French
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posted on
01/28/2003 1:37:01 AM PST
by
FBD
(They don't call 'em frogs for nothing.)
Comment #32 Removed by Moderator
To: Karl B
Here, this might help you, FRiend! G'nite again...
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posted on
01/28/2003 1:44:58 AM PST
by
FBD
(They don't call 'em frogs for nothing.)
Comment #34 Removed by Moderator
To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
Pi$$ in their crack, as the vulgar French like to say
To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
Do you have problem with providing shade to tired soldiers? Have a heart man! :-)
To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
You can work within the UN as a member, or simply withdraw from the UN, and even NATO. I certaily think that the US is a huge market, and the only super-power, it need not to sit next to raghead country as an equal. In the mean time, as long as we are a member, we should afford all countries, including scumbag dictatorships respect and equality.
To: philosofy123
Sorry, I went off on you in that earlier post

You should put your quotes inside sarcasm tags, so that square-headed Norwegians like myself who don't understand subtle humor will not go on a tangent on you, FRiend! Here, let's try it and see what happens.
[sarcasm on]""You can work within the UN as a member, or simply withdraw from the UN, and even NATO. I certaily think that the US is a huge market, and the only super-power, it need not to sit next to raghead country as an equal. In the mean time, as long as we are a member, we should afford all countries, including scumbag dictatorships respect and equality." [sarcasm /off]
There;...Oh see, NOW I get your joke...LOL! [;^)
Ah, you were joking right...?
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posted on
01/28/2003 9:11:13 AM PST
by
FBD
(They don't call 'em frogs for nothing.)
To: Karl B
"No other nation in the west has an equivalent history on such a scale of 2000 years history, and no other nation had such an impact on the western culture." OK, Karl. I'm going to give the French their due in respect to culture, in this post. I would argue that the Romans gave us more. I mean we did pattern our gov. & legal system after theirs, no? (Although I question the wisdom of having Senators, sometimes...;^)
But you French have definitly contributed to culture; French kissing comes to mind...
And hey, my favorite musical is Les Mis`erables...you should try casting as Inspector Javier, I think you'd be very good. You know, he was very series, very series, and very dogmatic...hmmm.
You French have the best Merlot; our American Merlots often have a grassy taste, for some reason.
And as for your cuisine, your French fries, toast, and dressing are the best in the world!!! No es cargot, thanks...
Well, off to work,
Sign me: Square-headed Norwegian, and nasty ignorant french basher. ;^D
PS. In spite of all their culture, Frogs just love Jerry Lewis...now something just ain't right there...
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posted on
01/28/2003 9:57:27 AM PST
by
FBD
(They don't call 'em frogs for nothing.)
To: MHGinTN
Well I am certainly eager to see how the next month and year do play out!
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posted on
01/28/2003 9:58:14 AM PST
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
Comment #41 Removed by Moderator
To: Karl B
Thanks for the kind words. And this is what the French SHOULD have tried to learn from Americans:
"I confess that in America I saw more than America; I sought the image of democracy itself, with its inclinations, its character, its prejudices, and its passions, in order to learn what we have to fear or hope from its progress."-- Alexis de Tocqueville
A great man. Too bad he was wasted on the French. Hey , I know the French had lots of great people.
I'm just having a little fun, because right now, the French government is stabbing us in the back, by making deals with Iraq, in exchange for CHEAP OIL
PS. Get a sense of humor, man. You can make fun of the Norwegians all day long, and I'll laugh right along with you. Know what the shortest book in the library is?
"The Norwegian Book of Knowlege"! Now that's damn funny.;^D
It wouldn't hurt you to be a little more self-deprecating.
But then you wouldn't be French any more, would you. :^)
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posted on
01/28/2003 11:00:32 AM PST
by
FBD
(They don't call 'em frogs for nothing.)
Comment #43 Removed by Moderator
To: Karl B
I have to give the French credit for being such fine housekeepers--dressmakers, pastry cooks and all. And, nice perfumes and home decor. No wonder the Germans wanted to invade! So cozy, so chic! Do make them a nice cassoulet to welcome Herr Maitre home.
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posted on
01/28/2003 12:03:17 PM PST
by
Mamzelle
To: MeeknMing; SwinneySwitch; happygrl; Temple Owl; Starboard; ex-Texan
For Bush fans, and Texans: Addition to "The Perfidy Of The French"
Hey Meek, I know you are from Texas, so you will love this article,
From The Iconoclast:
Le plus on leur baise le cul, le plus ils nous chient sur la tete.
(The more you kiss their a$$, the more they $#!+ on your head.)
-- from Red Gold
By Alan Furst
January 28, 2003: America has been attacked; it faces a formidable enemy; and we turn to the nations of the world for moral support in our fight. And what do we get from our former French allies -- the finger.
That's the friendly response of the French government, the French press, and the French intellectual establishment, members of the French elite all -- eaters of oysters, drinkers of premier crus, and lovers of polysyllabic words and nuanced politics. They love to make fun of Americans, and especially of George W. Bush.
According to their patronizing view, Americans are crude, simple, inarticulate, and tasteless. And not surprisingly, Bush is depicted in the French press dressed in a cowboy outfit with a moronic smile and toting two shootin' irons.
But it's time to remember a few things:
In 1940 the great French Army -- the largest and best among the Western Europeans -- surrendered to the Germans in 43 days. And because of the rapidity with which the great French Army capitulated, it suffered the fewest casualties of any of the so-called Allies.
France was liberated by an Anglo-American army, not a French force. The Free French were not even told when D-Day was scheduled, and took no part in D-Day. A small French force was allowed to participate in Operation Anvil -- the invasion of southern France in August of 1944.
The invasion of southeast France along the Riviera was accomplished by the American Seventh Army, which consisted of three divisions, and these three divisions chased Germany's Nineteenth Army out of southern France. Two of those three divisions were made up largely of cowboys from Oklahoma (the Forty-fifth) and Texas (the Thirty-sixth).
The Texas division was made up of guys from little towns like Galena Park and Melissa where, for a few dollars a month, they joined the National Guard, which became federalized at the beginning of the war. The division was blooded in the brutal Italian Campaign the year before, and then in late summer of 1944 the Thirty-sixth started on its mission to free southeastern France.
Starting with St. Raphael, they drove northward through Cannes, Grasse, Gap and Grenoble, places these boys had never heard of before they left home and had no plans to visit. They had worked on farms and ranches back home, in shops as mechanics, in stores as clerks, but they were cowboys at heart. Not very verbal or grammatical, they wore cowboy hats mostly, the cheap kind made of straw, and talked about everyday things, but not their cowboy values -- being a square shooter, and being upright and honest men. They'd never heard of Voltaire, or Rousseau, or Chateau Petrus -- but they liberated southern France, something the great French Army couldn't do.
The Thirty-sixth Infantry -- the Texas cowboys -- closed with the German Nineteenth Army as the Germans retreated north along the Rhone. At Montelimar, the Americans blocked the German retreat and a major week-long struggle ensued until many thousands of Germans surrendered and many hundreds of Texans lay dead, like Pvt. Cecil Lewis from Houston, killed in action, or Sgt. George W. Rivers, Jr. from Tuxedo, killed in action -- cowboys who had never heard of Montelimar and had never planned to visit.
The Thirty-sixth worked its way northeast, fighting the retreating Germans and liberating French town after town. On September 2, the Division entered Lyons and it was greeted by throngs of civilians who came out of hiding to applaud their liberation. The elderly shook hands and threw flowers; the young sought autographs and climbed aboard Jeeps and trucks.
In the midst of winter, the Texans fought their way week by week through the Vosges Mountains and then through Alsace to the Rhine and into Germany. Their last cowboy adventure occurred in Austria in May, a few days before the end of the war. The Texas division had heard rumors that a number of important French personages were being held captive by the SS in a castle near Worgl, Austria, so they sent a tank crew and a handful of infantrymen of the Thirty-sixth to investigate. The patrol climbed the mountain to the twelfth-century Alpine castle of Itter where Edoard Daladier and Paul Reynaud, former prime ministers; General Maurice Gamelin, former commander of the French Army; General Maxime Weygand, commander of the French Army at the time of the French surrender; Mme Alfred Cailliau, sister of General Charles DeGaulle; Michel Clemenceau, son of the French statesman; and Jean Borotra, French tennis star, were all being held captive.
When the patrol reached the castle, the German commandant surrendered it. But it was still surrounded by a large force of German SS troops which began to attack as soon as they realized that the American group was so small. Their artillery knocked out the lone American tank and blasted gaping holes in the old castle.
Captain John Lee, the officer in charge of the expedition, organized his small force and because the castle occupied the high ground and was surrounded by a moat, they were able to withstand with minimum losses the repeated storm trooper assaults. At three in the afternoon, long after the defenders had run out of ammunition, another detachment of the Thirty-sixth drove through the SS ranks and opened the road to the castle.
So let's remember, you French bastards, the Texas cowboys who went to France even though they never planned to visit -- and who remain there to this day.
Yale Kramer, Co-Publisher, Horsefeathers
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posted on
01/28/2003 12:29:11 PM PST
by
FBD
(They don't call 'em frogs for nothing.)
To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
We fought our battle and theirs too...


Davy Crockett using "Old Betsy" musket as a club at the Alamo.
46
posted on
01/28/2003 1:36:35 PM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(9 out of 10 Republicans agree: Bush IS a Genius !!)
To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
Great find and a post worth reading twice! Thanks for posting it and pinging me.
47
posted on
01/28/2003 1:38:34 PM PST
by
ex-Texan
To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
The saga of the "Lost Battalion" was brutal.
The Army considers it one of the most significant battles since the Revolutionary War. In the dark forests of France's Vosges mountain range 56 years ago, a unit of Asian Americans -- some of whose parents were imprisoned in U.S. World War II internment camps because of their race -- fought the odds in rescuing their fellow soldiers.
http://starbulletin.com/2000/03/25/news/story4.html
To: Mamzelle
"I have to give the French credit for being such fine housekeepers--dressmakers, pastry cooks and all. And, nice perfumes and home decor. No wonder the Germans wanted to invade! So cozy, so chic! Do make them a nice cassoulet to welcome Herr Maitre home." LOL!!! ;^)
Now that is funny!
Careful though, Karl is pretty sensitive about his French heritage. He's gonna take that very personaly.
Karl--
--Mamzelle -Jab!- Jab!
49
posted on
01/28/2003 4:07:57 PM PST
by
FBD
(They don't call 'em frogs for nothing.)
To: SwinneySwitch
Excellant link! Thanks for posting it.
Japanese-Americans sure got a bad rap during the war. They were some of our best soldiers. I can't say much for Sen. Inoea's politics (sic) of Hawaii, but he was definitly a war hero, also. Almost gave his life saving some of his buddies, and seriously wounded.
50
posted on
01/28/2003 4:12:53 PM PST
by
FBD
(They don't call 'em frogs for nothing.)
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