Shuttle Contact LOST-No Tracking Data During RE-Entry!

Nasa TV | 02/01/03 | GRRRR

[GRRRRR]

Shuttle has NOT been heard from or seen on tracking radar since 0800Hrs CDT. No contact at Merrit Island tracking station, no voice comm...DEVELOPING.

[lodwick]

Scholarship funds are fine also.

Flowers can be done today.

[Lion's Cub]

One possibility: one wing was damaged on take-off, but they determined at the time that it was not dangerous.

Yes, I heard that.

I also heard John Glen a while ago. He said there is a computer that figures the angle of descent and makes constant adjustments. If the angle isn't perfect when the craft begins to hit the oxygen molecules then the craft burns up.

Listening to someone now who says they are able to check for damaged tiles via satellite and have done so before if they suspected any damage from lift off, etc.

[txdoda]

My brother lives near Palestine, Texas...

I was outside, heard *strange* boom, boom, boom, sounds...
About 6/8.....when I looked up, there were two smoke
trails across the sky.....Tv is saying more debris found
in Nacadoches....

[ChadGore]

Slip the surley bonds . .

[CELTICGAEL (Celt)]

excuse me, I was just repeating what a witness said on cnn. don't jump at me OK.

[mathluv]

Dallas TV radar is showing something in the atmosphere - south of Athens to Henderson - (south of I20 between Dallas and Shreveport)

[Republic of Texas]

WFAA showing normal Shuttle entry from file, compared to this one. Very different. Just to show how fast it was going. It went over DFW at 8am, scheduled to land in S. Florida at 8:16am.

[lavaroise]

Israeli Astronaut Bombed Iraqi Nuclear Reactor in 1981
Posted 1/22/2003
http://www.thejewishpress.com/news_article.asp?article=2011

By Julie Stahl, CNSNews Jerusalem Bureau Chief
Jerusalem — Israel’s first astronaut, Col. Ilan Ramon, is a former Israeli fighter pilot who participated in the bombing of an Iraqi nuclear reactor in 1981 — a feat for which he is now being praised as a hero.

The bombing of the primarily French-built Osiraq nuclear reactor near Baghdad brought world outrage and censure on Israel in 1981.

But 10 years later in 1991, when a U.S.-allied coalition faced Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein — who had no nuclear weapons — the West was forced to admit that Israel had done them a great favor.

“They built the reactor with French and Italian help. They were about to start the radioactive process there,” said Col. Yoash Tsiddon-Chatto, a member of the Israel Society of Aeronautics and Astronautics and former Chief of Planning and Operational Requirements in the Israel Air Force.

“If we were to bomb it after it became ‘hot’ it would have been like a nuclear disaster [like in the Ukraine],” Tsiddon-Chatto said. “[Israel] tried to prevent nuclear fallout.”

According to Tsiddon-Chatto, Israel waited until the last possible moment to make the decision to attack the reactor and then took action, despite an international dispute.

“Ten years later, everybody praised us,” he said. “The people woke up and said, ‘[what] if they wouldn’t have done this?”’ In his opinion, Ramon could “absolutely” be considered an American hero, he said.

“Ramon isn’t actually American, but we’ll honor him anyway by calling him an American hero,” wrote James Taranto of the Wall Street Journal’s OpinionJournal.

“Imagine how much more serious would be the threat from Saddam Hussein were it not for him and his fellow pilots,” Taranto added.

An unnamed senior Israeli official called the attack on the reactor “a milestone in Israeli aviation history.” The planes managed to fly over Arab territory for hours without being detected, the official was quoted as saying in Friday’s Jerusalem Post.

The planes flew in a tight formation in order to give off a radar signal like a large commercial plane.

Ramon is one of seven astronauts orbiting earth on a 16-day research mission in the Columbia space shuttle, which blasted off last Thursday. (cnsnews.com)

[Arkinsaw]

No offense intended. Can we keep the morons from DU out of this thread? I really don't want to read any of their crap and if I did I would go over there.

Thanks

[bribriagain]

The voice transcripts from the Challenger event have not been released to the public at the request of the families.

[TheRightGuy]

NASA needs to retire the Shuttle........God Bless

Way true .. and there's no excuse for not having a successor waiting in the wings.

Columbia was built in '79. How good was your PC back then? Even with every conceivable upgrade it would still be irrelevant today.

[July 4th]

Nacadoches. That's it.

[okkev68]

This is more tin-foil but wasn't there a story about competing with China for space military dominance? We know China has been attempting to hack and disrupt our computer networks. Could they have somehow got into nasa's network?

[GOPyouth]

Morning Folks. This was very sad news to wake up to here in San Diego. I haven't read all the posts yet, but I suppose there are still astronauts at the space-station? If the shuttles are grounded would they come home on a Russian flight?

[MamaB]

Does anyone know addresses of the families? We need to let them know they are in our prayers.

[mikegi]

Maca-something Texas public info. officer is on CNN. Debris has landed in the town. No damage or injuries on the ground as of yet.

It was Nacodoches, TX, between Dallas and Houston.

[OReilly]

Wonder why we have not heard the last voice transmissions during re-entry... maybe there is a radio blackout because of the turbulence of re-entry. I guess we will hear more later...

[GirlShortstop]

  

Is posting and reviewing and discussing DU appropriate at this stage?
Please, please... move onto a DU repsonse thread with that garbage.

[bonesmccoy]

NO4 and hydrazine are indeed hypergolics. But, the fumes are toxic and people should not approach debris.

I agree with your comment regarding the concept that the material is unlike to survive to impact, but outgassing from intact dewars could pose a risk to the individuals around a hypothetically surviving tank.

[bvw]

That would be good. That and the debris field maps should give a strong story.