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Debris Photos (GRAPHIC)
Yahoo News photos ^ | 2/2/03 | freepers

Posted on 02/02/2003 7:34:59 AM PST by Mark Felton

Edited on 02/02/2003 12:51:23 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

[Your attention please. This thread has generated a ton of abuse reports. Some have been from long established freepers. Others have been from relative newbies. Some have been complaining about the thread. Others have been complaining about the complainers.

Throw on top of it the fact that some of the newbies who showed up on this thread happen to be returning bannees, who before being banned were friendly with some of the very people they are bickering with here, and something is striking us as just not right.

If you are interested in the debris photos, this is the thread for it. If not, don't join in this thread. It is not disrespectful to those who died to post pictures of the debris in our opinion. What they show and where they landed may help piece together what killed these brave people.

If you feel that is the wrong decision, we apologize and mean no harm. But please, no more arguing about it on the thread, and no more abuse reports on the matter.

Thanks, AM.]

Fires, believed started by debris from the downed space shuttle Columbia, burn in an area near Dallas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Seven astronauts perished when the shuttle broke to pieces as it re-entered the atmosphere at the end of a 16-day mission. (AP Photo/Joe Cavaretta)
Sun Feb 2, 1:14 AM ET

Fires, believed started by debris from the downed space shuttle Columbia, burn in an area near Dallas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Seven astronauts perished when the shuttle broke to pieces as it re-entered the atmosphere at the end of a 16-day mission. (AP Photo/Joe Cavaretta)



A video image of a helmet that dropped into a yard in Norwood Community, Texas from the space shuttle Columbia is seen Feb. 1, 2002. Many parts of the shuttle, along with human remains, were found in the area. NASA officials later removed the helmet. (Rick Wilking/Reuters)
Sat Feb 1, 9:31 PM ET

A video image of a helmet that dropped into a yard in Norwood Community, Texas from the space shuttle Columbia is seen Feb. 1, 2002. Many parts of the shuttle, along with human remains, were found in the area. NASA (news - web sites) officials later removed the helmet. (Rick Wilking/Reuters)



A small brush fire started by a falling piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia outside Athens, Texas after the shuttle broke apart during re-entry over Texas on its way to a scheduled landing in Fla., Feb. 1, 2003. Authorities have not speculated on the cause of the crash. (Jeff Mitchell/Reuters)
Sat Feb 1,10:35 PM ET

A small brush fire started by a falling piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia outside Athens, Texas after the shuttle broke apart during re-entry over Texas on its way to a scheduled landing in Fla., Feb. 1, 2003. Authorities have not speculated on the cause of the crash. (Jeff Mitchell/Reuters)


A piece of debris believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia is photographed near Lufkin, Texas, Feb. 1, 2003. NASA lost contact with the shuttle at around 9 a.m., about 16 minutes before its scheduled landing at Kennedy Space Center. (Reuters)
Sat Feb 1, 9:31 PM ET

A piece of debris believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia is photographed near Lufkin, Texas, Feb. 1, 2003. NASA (news - web sites) lost contact with the shuttle at around 9 a.m., about 16 minutes before its scheduled landing at Kennedy Space Center (news - web sites). (Reuters)


Goldie Hamilton looks at a piece of debris that dropped into her yard in Alto, Texas from the space shuttle Columbia February 1, 2003. Many parts of the shuttle along with human remains were found in the area. Hamilton lives in the house in the background. REUTERS/Rick Wilking
Sat Feb 1, 9:15 PM ET

Goldie Hamilton looks at a piece of debris that dropped into her yard in Alto, Texas from the space shuttle Columbia February 1, 2003. Many parts of the shuttle along with human remains were found in the area. Hamilton lives in the house in the background. REUTERS/Rick Wilking


A piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia dropped into this yard in Alto, Texas, February 1, 2003. Debris from space shuttle Columbia rained down onto fields, highways and a cemetery in Texas on Saturday, sending dozens of residents to hospitals after they handled the smoldering metal wreckage. All seven astronauts on board were killed in the break-up, which scattered potentially toxic debris across a 120-mile (190-km-long) swath of eastern Texas. REUTERS/Rick Wilking
Sat Feb 1, 9:18 PM ET

A piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia dropped into this yard in Alto, Texas, February 1, 2003. Debris from space shuttle Columbia rained down onto fields, highways and a cemetery in Texas on Saturday, sending dozens of residents to hospitals after they handled the smoldering metal wreckage. All seven astronauts on board were killed in the break-up, which scattered potentially toxic debris across a 120-mile (190-km-long) swath of eastern Texas. REUTERS/Rick Wilking



Stan Melasky, left, and his brother Steve Melasky look over a piece of debris, believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia, that fell on their farm near Douglass, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. (AP Photo/Donna McWilliam)
Sat Feb 1, 7:43 PM ET

Stan Melasky, left, and his brother Steve Melasky look over a piece of debris, believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia, that fell on their farm near Douglass, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. (AP Photo/Donna McWilliam)


An Anderson County sheriff's deputy walks past a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia outside Palestine, Texas after the shuttle broke apart during reentry over East Texas on its way to a scheduled landing in Florida, February 1, 2003. Shaken NASA officials vowed to find out what caused the space shuttle Columbia to break up, saying they would look closely at the impact of a piece of foam insulation that struck the orbiter's left wing at takeoff. REUTERS/Jeff Mitchell
Sat Feb 1, 8:52 PM ET

An Anderson County sheriff's deputy walks past a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia outside Palestine, Texas after the shuttle broke apart during reentry over East Texas on its way to a scheduled landing in Florida, February 1, 2003. Shaken NASA (news - web sites) officials vowed to find out what caused the space shuttle Columbia to break up, saying they would look closely at the impact of a piece of foam insulation that struck the orbiter's left wing at takeoff. REUTERS/Jeff Mitchell


A piece of space shuttle debris sits on the ground outside Bronson, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Space shuttle Columbia broke apart in flames 200,000 feet over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)
Sat Feb 1, 7:25 PM ET

A piece of space shuttle debris sits on the ground outside Bronson, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Space shuttle Columbia broke apart in flames 200,000 feet over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)


Searchers mark a small piece of debris while looking for remnants of the space shuttle outside Bronson, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Space shuttle Columbia broke apart in flames 200,000 feet over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)
Sat Feb 1, 7:29 PM ET

Searchers mark a small piece of debris while looking for remnants of the space shuttle outside Bronson, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Space shuttle Columbia broke apart in flames 200,000 feet over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)


Resident Bugs Arriola looks at a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia, Sunday, Feb. 2, 2003 in Nacogdoches, Texas. People have been told not to touch any of the debris as there could be toxic chemicals on the material. (AP Photo/Donna McWilliam)
Sun Feb 2,10:11 AM ET

Resident Bugs Arriola looks at a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia, Sunday, Feb. 2, 2003 in Nacogdoches, Texas. People have been told not to touch any of the debris as there could be toxic chemicals on the material. (AP Photo/Donna McWilliam)


Vollunteer firefigher John Berry looks out at small piece of debris believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia in a rural area north of Palestine, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. The shuttle broke apart in flames over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/LM Otero)
Sat Feb 1, 7:41 PM ET

Vollunteer firefigher John Berry looks out at small piece of debris believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia in a rural area north of Palestine, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. The shuttle broke apart in flames over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/LM Otero)


A couple looks at a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia that dropped onto the highway in Alto, Texas February 1, 2003. Debris fromColumbia rained down onto fields, highways and a cemetery in Texas on Saturday, sending dozens of residents to hospitals after they handled the smoldering metal wreckage. All seven astronauts on board were killed in the break-up, which scattered potentially toxic debris across a 120-mile (190-km-long) swath of eastern Texas. REUTERS/Rick Wilking
Sat Feb 1, 9:23 PM ET

A couple looks at a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia that dropped onto the highway in Alto, Texas February 1, 2003. Debris fromColumbia rained down onto fields, highways and a cemetery in Texas on Saturday, sending dozens of residents to hospitals after they handled the smoldering metal wreckage. All seven astronauts on board were killed in the break-up, which scattered potentially toxic debris across a 120-mile (190-km-long) swath of eastern Texas. REUTERS/Rick Wilking


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To: Mark Felton
It adds an additional touch of sorrow to see what might have meant to be little presents and mementos among the wreckage.
181 posted on 02/02/2003 10:44:23 AM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Start Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: Howlin; McGavin999
Thanks, Howlin....you are always so nice and helpful. McGavin999 is a true patriot and insightful person.

I posted to a thread where everybody was mad at the French President and angry about his statemnets of condolences to America on the loss of Columbia. The shuttle had Michelins tires by the way...made in the USA though.

Here is what I posted:

The program director of the shuttle project took the 12 of us on a guided tour of the NASA facilities.

We were taken into the building where the Columbia was being worked on and I actually was allowed to touch a sample of a heat sheild "tile".

All of us were so close to Columbia. I mean, we were right next to it!! It was a magnificent looking machine....but was smaller than I had imagined it.

Anyway, the French people were very happy about being able to see the shuttle and were VERY IMPRESSED with it. And, they were very,very polite and very grateful for the opportunity to see NASA "up close and personal".

They said it was the HIGHLIGHT of their whole trip to America. They bought so many souvenirs that I couldn't believe it!! Bags and bags of stuff...all about the shuttle and NASA!!

So, all that being said...I am sure that in that town in Southern France....there are some French people who are personally touched and saddened by these events....as we all, here on FR, are.

Please understand...MANY French people DO like Americans...and I have been priviledged to stay in French homes, dine with them and receive gifts from them...just because they were pleased to have an American visitor.

Yes, I know....many French don't like us....but, I know personally a whole lot of them who do.

182 posted on 02/02/2003 10:44:40 AM PST by crazykatz
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To: Mark Felton
Thanks for this thread.


video shows what appears to be debris hitting left wing at launch.

http://www.floridatoday.com/columbia/debrisvideo.htm

183 posted on 02/02/2003 10:45:53 AM PST by amom
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To: Mark Felton
thanks for the thread
184 posted on 02/02/2003 10:46:09 AM PST by knak
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To: Mark Felton
An 8 second segment of the video showing the zoom in on the shuttle itself.


http://www.gibsonridgesoftware.com/shuttle/shuttle.htm
185 posted on 02/02/2003 10:47:45 AM PST by amom
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To: McGavin999
Having lived in Houston many years ago, Texas is a proud State and the people are wonderful, like President Bush. I can not think of a better recovery state for this unfortunate tragedy to occur.
186 posted on 02/02/2003 10:48:09 AM PST by crager
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To: Mark Felton
oh oh ... you said debris photos.

sorry

187 posted on 02/02/2003 10:49:57 AM PST by amom
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To: crazykatz
Please understand...MANY French people DO like Americans...

Exactly. Just as there are many, many Muslims who don't want to kill us all. And ALL government isn't bad!

It's fascinating that you got to see America through the eyes of foreigners. Maybe more people should do that.

188 posted on 02/02/2003 10:50:52 AM PST by Howlin
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To: crazykatz
From personal experience, it was the french in small towns and cities out in the countryside that like us - the urban Parisite, on the other hand, seemed to always have 'issues'...
189 posted on 02/02/2003 10:51:45 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (We've got Armadillos in our trousers. It's really quite frightening.)
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To: michigander
I missed your post before. Just heart breaking, isn't it?
190 posted on 02/02/2003 10:52:01 AM PST by Howlin
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To: amom
excellent, thanks. I was hoping someone would find that sequence. very interesting.

It suggests that the shuttle was still largely intact AFTER communications broke off. Prior to communications break there were no signs of trouble apparent to the crew directly.

191 posted on 02/02/2003 10:52:21 AM PST by Mark Felton
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To: Arkinsaw

Makeshift Memorial Placed by Citizens at the Spot Where Human Remains Were Found Yesterday
192 posted on 02/02/2003 10:52:27 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Mark Felton; Thinkin' Gal
I am just no good at posting links but I read one article which said that the Israeli astronaut carried with him drawing rendered by a 14 year old boy who perished in the Holocaust...it was called "MOONSCAPE".

I will see if I can find the URL for the article, at least.

193 posted on 02/02/2003 10:52:50 AM PST by crazykatz
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To: Howlin
Here it is again gladly...


194 posted on 02/02/2003 10:54:43 AM PST by KineticKitty
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To: Mark Felton
Thank you for this thread. I think it is valuable, both in technical information, but also in showing us how people SHOULD behave in such a situation. I am very proud of Texans and how they are conducting themselves.
195 posted on 02/02/2003 10:56:03 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Mark Felton
http://msnbc.com/news/867314.asp?0bl=-0

A police officer and a National Guard soldier stand watch Sunday over a piece of debris in a parking lot in Nakogdoches, Texas.


I don't know the image html.

196 posted on 02/02/2003 10:59:12 AM PST by amom
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To: Howlin
Just heart breaking, isn't it?

Yes. Tragic.

197 posted on 02/02/2003 10:59:44 AM PST by michigander
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To: Mark Felton
This is a tasteless thread. Reveling in debris found - another new low at FR. Next thing you know, someone will post the skull, burnt torso and other various body parts found. Geesh, it's not like you have the ability to figure out what went wrong by looking at debris. People who DO have the ability to do that don't view it as a sport or entertainment in morbitity. This is a disgrace and hopefully FR will pull this morbid thread.

PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVES. HONOR THE PEOPLE NOT THE DEBRIS. Get your jollies elswhere on debris fascination. You truly are a disgusting individual.

198 posted on 02/02/2003 11:00:21 AM PST by nmh
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To: Mark Felton
Yes exactly.

You are welcome.
199 posted on 02/02/2003 11:02:16 AM PST by amom
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To: nhoward14
Any idea why when I click on the link you provided I get this message? I have had this happen before.

The requested document does not exist on this server.

200 posted on 02/02/2003 11:03:51 AM PST by Spunky
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