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Peace Activists Frustrated by Bush Over Iraq (Snicker Snicker)
ABC News ^ | 2/6/03

Posted on 02/06/2003 11:30:24 AM PST by areafiftyone

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Activists in the growing movement in the United States against attacking Iraq are expressing frustration at their inability to deflect President Bush from his course.

Despite polls showing deep public misgivings about attacking Iraq, especially without U.N. authorization, and a string of large anti-war demonstrations across the country, Bush has generally ignored the opposition, apparently confident he will pay no political price.

"It's very alarming. The Bush administration is prepared to ignore U.S. sentiment and international sentiment," said Barbara Epstein, an expert of peace movements at the University of California, Santa Cruz and peace activist herself.

"The president and his advisers seem so convinced they are right that they can't seem to imagine that the American people won't support them once the fighting begins," she said.

Epstein and other activists are elated at their success in drawing hundreds of thousands of people into the streets for anti-war rallies. They also point to the fact that at least 64 city councils across the country, including Detroit, Philadelphia, Seattle, Baltimore, Chicago and San Francisco have passed anti-war resolutions.

Among religious groups, the National Council of Churches and the National Conference of Catholic Bishops have also passed resolutions opposing military action against Iraq. Peace activists said the active participation of churches and church-goers has boosted their cause and broadened their movement.

All agreed the current anti-war movement was much larger than that which emerged before the 1991 Gulf War, even though congressional opposition to that conflict was stronger.

Bush rarely refers to the antiwar movement but has said that Americans have the right to express their views.

Polls continue to show that public support for an attack against Iraq, which hovers around the 50 percent mark, drops to around 35 percent if respondents are asked if they would still support a war without United Nations authorization.

Many activists blame the weak and disunited performance of the Democrats for their inability to influence policy. While many Democrats voted against authorizing Bush to attack Iraq last October, all but one of the party's prospective presidential candidates supported the resolution.

DEMOCRATS 'FRIGHTENED'

"The Democrats are frightened of being on the wrong side of the situation or of being perceived as unpatriotic or soft on terrorism," said Tom Andrews, a former Democratic member of Congress who now serves as national director for Win Without War, an umbrella group coordinating opposition to the war.

"The result is there is no clear, articulate, principled opposition to the president in the corridors of power, which does not reflect the situation in the country at large, where opposition to the war is real, palpable, deep-seated and growing," he said.

James Zogby, who heads the Arab American Institute and is a member of the Democratic National Committee, said Bush was reading the polls carefully and had concluded that his political base was secure.

"The peace movement is not the administration's base vote. Among Republicans, two thirds are in favor of the war. Among Democrats, two thirds are against. Among white evangelical Christians, Bush has 70 percent support. Among blacks and Hispanics, 70 percent oppose war," Zogby said.

Epstein agreed: "People in the current anti-war movement are people who by and large didn't vote for George W. Bush anyway. We are not his constituency," she said.

But Zogby also blames his own party for failing to lead the opposition. "If you don't give people a clear choice, a sense of resignation sets in," he said.

Sally Milbury-Steen, who heads Pacem in Terris, a mainly church-based peace group in Wilmington, Delaware said part of the problem was that the mainstream media was ignoring the peace movement and echoing the administration's position.

She said Bush's assumption that opposition would melt away once the fighting began as Americans rallied behind their armed forces was wrong.

"If we can't prevent the war, we won't disappear. We will work to stop it if it starts and if we can't stop it, we will just be a constant spanner in the works," she said.


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Apparently ABC hasn't been looking at the current polls. The majority of Americans back Bush. The peaceniks are the minority here because most people know that alot of the peace organizations like A.N.S.W.E.R are funded by communist/socialist organizations. You only have to look on their website to see it. . They totally bash American and Bush when they protest and that is the biggest turnoff to Americans. These peaceniks are not fooling anyone but themselves into thinking the American public really cares about them!
1 posted on 02/06/2003 11:30:24 AM PST by areafiftyone
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Sally Milbury-Steen, who heads Pacem in Terris, a mainly church-based peace group in Wilmington, Delaware said part of the problem was that the mainstream media was ignoring the peace movement and echoing the administration's position

How insane does one have to be to believe this?

2 posted on 02/06/2003 11:32:41 AM PST by John H K
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To: areafiftyone
"It's very alarming. The Bush administration is prepared to ignore U.S. sentiment and international sentiment," said Barbara Epstein, an expert of peace movements at the University of California, Santa Cruz and peace activist herself.

Dubya isn't ignoring anything. I guess Mizz Epstein hasn't see the latest polls that show over 75% of Americans are on the 'oust Saddam' bandwagon.

3 posted on 02/06/2003 11:33:29 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: John H K
I've been told many times (by leftists) that the mainstream media is "fascist" right-wing. Yes, they truly believe this ...And yes, they are certifiably insane.
4 posted on 02/06/2003 11:35:53 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: areafiftyone
Epstein agreed: "People in the current anti-war movement are people who by and large didn't vote for George W. Bush anyway. We are not his constituency," she said.

Duh...

5 posted on 02/06/2003 11:36:52 AM PST by katnip
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To: areafiftyone
Bush has generally ignored the opposition, apparently confident he will pay no political price.

That would be because they anti-war wackos are anti-U.S. and anti-Bush wackos and wouldn't vote for Bush if Satan were the candidate on the DemoncRat ticket.

6 posted on 02/06/2003 11:37:20 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave)
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To: areafiftyone
Activists in the growing movement in the United States against attacking Iraq are expressing frustration at their inability to deflect President Bush from his course.

Their weirdness is entertaining enough. Guys like to look at naked women.
Watching the burn-outs is like going to the zoo.
There's no reason to take them seriously, though.

7 posted on 02/06/2003 11:37:36 AM PST by concerned about politics (Stop supporting terrorism! Drill ANWAR!)
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To: areafiftyone
The Democrats are frightened of being on the wrong side of the situation

Could it be because the RATS have NO moral compass whatsoever? They're always chasing the polls. Here's a thought.....grab on to a belief, and STAND BY IT

Do what your heart says, NOT what the polls say. At least you'd be correct half the time.

8 posted on 02/06/2003 11:37:40 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: areafiftyone
"...drops to around 35 percent if respondents are asked if they would still support a war without United Nations authorization."

Do you happen to know the real stat on this? I think it would be much, much higher. I love the (snicker snicker)

9 posted on 02/06/2003 11:38:00 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Mr. Mojo
And...also...support involvement in Iraq without UN approval
10 posted on 02/06/2003 11:38:00 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (UN = Unpunished Nazis)
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To: areafiftyone
The media always fails to give the poll numbers of the "deep opposition" and misgivings. What a slanted report.
11 posted on 02/06/2003 11:38:06 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: Mr. Mojo
No, Ms. Epstein lives in Santa Cruz, la-la land.
12 posted on 02/06/2003 11:38:13 AM PST by EggsAckley (new public school motto: Aspire to Mediocrity)
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Apparently ABC hasn't been looking at the current polls. The majority of Americans back Bush.

Bingo!

"It's very alarming. The Bush administration is prepared to ignore U.S. sentiment and international sentiment,"

Bush is ignoring the far left sentiment of no war under this administration. He is responding to the US sentiment that we don't want to go to war but we recognize war as a possible necessity and will stand behind the administration's decision. The "international" sentiment he is ignoring is France, Germany, Russia, China and of course Iraq. He has the support of England, Spain, Italy, almost all of Eastern Europe as well as Israel & Pakistan of all people.

Gee another leftist liar. What a shock. [/sarcasm]

13 posted on 02/06/2003 11:39:15 AM PST by amused (Behold, the power of FREEP!)
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To: areafiftyone
...said Barbara Epstein, an expert of peace movements at the University of California, Santa Cruz and peace activist herself...

Translation: An anarchist freak.

14 posted on 02/06/2003 11:39:16 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (Let's Roll)
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To: areafiftyone
Despite polls showing deep public misgivings about attacking Iraq

Which polls are these, ABC?

Every poll that I have seen published recently shows the country is largely supporting President Bush against Iraq.

No wonder I have taken ABC off my Satellite tuner. Screw Disney/ABC.

15 posted on 02/06/2003 11:40:03 AM PST by hattend (Mickey Mouse is a RAT.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Barbara Epstein, an expert of peace movements

HUH???? Gee. Now there's a title to be proud of- NOT!! LOL

She needs to get a real job.

16 posted on 02/06/2003 11:40:14 AM PST by concerned about politics (Stop supporting terrorism! Drill ANWAR!)
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It doesnt surprise me that the Natl Council of Churches is against removing Hussein.

The Natl Council of Churches is very pro-Commie. They were the ones active in sending Elian Gonzalez back to Castro and Cuba a couple of years ago. In fact the NCC is the only religious group allowed in Commie Cuba by Castro
17 posted on 02/06/2003 11:40:52 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (UN = Unpunished Nazis)
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To: katnip
Yeh, its funny that people who didn't vote for a particular president, and spew venom about him at every turn, would expect him to listen to them now. Its like the NAACP complaining that Bush wouldn't attend their big meeting after running hateful commercials about him.

I never expected Clinton to care about what "conservatives" wanted.

18 posted on 02/06/2003 11:41:26 AM PST by FreeTally (How did a fool and his money get together in the first place?)
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To: areafiftyone
People are tired of America-bashing. We should shout from the rooftops:

WE ARE THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!!

and people should applaud, whistle stomp cry! But no, instead you have a group of people who believe Sodumb Insane over OUR OWN PRESIDENT! And they wonder why people call them anti-American. Because they hate America! Good for Bush!


Reagan Quote: (Happy Birthday Mr. President!)
"Great nations have responsibilities to lead, and we should always be cautious of those who would lower our profile, because they might just wind up lowering our flag."
Feb. 3, 1994

20 posted on 02/06/2003 11:42:46 AM PST by eyespysomething
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