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If Islam Ruled America
February 07, 2003 | Me

Posted on 02/07/2003 5:10:23 PM PST by jc_vet

Islam is more than a religion; It is a comprehensive way of life. The Quran (believed by Muslims to be God's word), and the Hadith (Mohammed's sayings as recorded by Al Bukhari), prescribe numerous regulations governing every aspect of the social, political, economical, as well as religious life. The belief that "Islam is a religion and a state" is an integral part of the Islamic religion.

Let's examine what Islam would do if it ruled America. What would happen to the values and institutions that we hold dear?


First: Liberty
The United States was built on the Bill of Rights, established by the founding fathers who came here to escape religious oppression. The Constitution gives citizens the right to express themselves as they please, to criticize the president if they believe he is wrong, to worship in the way they want and to act in any way they see appropriate as long as they don't violate the rights of others.

What would happen to this freedom in an Islamic state? Would the citizens be granted the right to choose the religion they want, or would they be forced into Islam according to the Quranic verse: "If any one desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him, and in the hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost." (Surah 3:85). How about the right of a Muslim to change his own religion? Would he be given this right or would he be punished according to the apostasy rule which states that such a person should be punished by death? Mohammed said "Whoever changes his religion, kill him." Al Bukhari Vol. 9:57

Do Muslim activists want us to have the same rights granted to the citizens of an Islamic country such as Saudi Arabia, where women are not allowed to drive an automobile and no one can worship openly according to any religion other than Islam? Do they want us to be ruled by a ruler such as Khomeini, who issued an order to murder a writer, Salman Rushdie, just because he dared to criticize Islam ? Even in a moderate Islamic state such as Egypt, Christians have to obtain a presidential decree to be able to build a church. They face discrimination in all aspects of their lives, including education, employment and promotions.

Second: Democracy
Our present system in the USA gives the citizens the right to rule themselves, to write the laws that will govern their lives, to decide the amount of taxes to be collected from them and how it will be spent.

One important principle in this great system is the separation of church and state. Islam, however, is built on an opposing concept, for "Islam is a religion and a state." According to Islam, the Quran is the principal source of legislation: "We have sent down to thee the book in truth, that you might judge men as guided by God." (Surah 4:105). If the Quran is the law, what are some of the rules and regulations that will be imposed? Here are just a few examples:

Stealing: punished by hand amputation (Surah 5:38)
Adultery: punished by public flogging (Surah 24:2)
Drinking: punished by 40 or 80 lashes (Al Bukhari 8:770)
Resisting Islam: punished by death, crucifixion or the cutting off of the hands and feet (Surah 5:33)
Prisons in Muslim countries are known to be centers of torture rather than rehabilitation.

Third: Equality
Under our system in the United States, there should be no discrimination among citizens based on sex, color, religion or race. Would Islam treat men and women equally when:

It teaches that men are superior to women (Surah 2:228)
It gives men double the share of the women in inheritance? (Surah 4:11)
It gives the man double the value of a woman's witness in court? (Surah 2:282)
Would Islam treat non-Muslims fairly when:
The Quran calls on Muslims not to befriend Jews or Christians? (Surah 9:30)
The Quran imposes "Jizya" (tribute tax) on Christians and Jews that will be collected only from them and not from Muslims? (Surah 9:29)
Mohammed says that a Muslim may not be killed if he kills a non- Muslim. " No Muslim should be killed for killing a kafir (infidel or non- Muslim) ."Al Bukhari Vol. 9:50
Could Islam someday rule America?

Islam is the fastest growing religion in America. Today, the number of followers of Islam in the United States has reached 4 to 6 millions. It is a matter of time before Islam will become the religion of the majority. America, then will be labeled an " Islamic country ", ruled by the "Quran" and the "Hadith" or what Muslims call Sharia (The Islamic code of ethics).

My fellow Americans

The threat of Islam is real. More so than communism ever was, because with Islam, Muslim activists are willing to kill and to die for the cause of spreading their religion. This is called ""Jihad", a sacred duty for all Muslims to perform.

Get this message around. Stop the spread of Islam before it is too late.


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1 posted on 02/07/2003 5:10:23 PM PST by jc_vet
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To: jc_vet
Drinking: punished by 40 or 80 lashes

Booze and S&M? Maybe 10 or 15 years ago, but I'm too old for such a culture now.

2 posted on 02/07/2003 5:13:03 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: jc_vet
It's a religion of peace.. did you know???
3 posted on 02/07/2003 5:17:28 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: jc_vet
read later
4 posted on 02/07/2003 5:18:54 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: jc_vet
Here's one thing I always liked;

There - Stealing: punished by hand amputation

Here - Stealing: punished by reelection
5 posted on 02/07/2003 5:22:00 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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To: jc_vet
where women are not allowed to drive an automobile

Think of the savings on car insurance.

(ducking)

6 posted on 02/07/2003 5:25:57 PM PST by P.O.E. (The incoming frying pan you don't hear is the one that gets you.)
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To: jc_vet
Not only that, but it states (either in the Koran or the Hadith, I never remember) that Muslims must live under a Khilafah, an Islamic state. That is one of the biggest reasons they hate the West. They think that the West, and the West alone, is preventing them from acheiving this global Islamic utopia. According to them, all of the problems in the world would immediately vanish if the world was ruled by Islam. When Muslims talk about being oppressed by the US, this is what they are talking about. Even the "moderate" ones.

I really don't see this problem lessening or going away anytime soon. I hope I'm wrong when I say I think it will escalate as time goes on!
7 posted on 02/07/2003 5:28:15 PM PST by Morrigan
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To: P.O.E.
LOL! Hey, I resemble that remark!

All women's drivers license pictures would look the same:

8 posted on 02/07/2003 5:29:44 PM PST by shezza
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bumped to read later..
9 posted on 02/07/2003 5:29:55 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 ( ~~~aye carumba!~~~)
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To: jc_vet
Locator ^
10 posted on 02/07/2003 5:34:49 PM PST by backhoe (The 1990's will be remembered as "The Decade of Fraud(s)..." ( Clintons, Dot-Bombs, Oslo... ))
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To: Senator Pardek

This map was absconded from the World Islamic Mission website just before they removed it after 911.

Source

12 posted on 02/07/2003 5:54:45 PM PST by ALS
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To: jc_vet
I'd like to see them try it in a nation of 80 million + deer rifles and God knows how many other small arms. If the sand nazis have a problem with uppity women now, just wait until all those feminists realize what's really at stake and you'll see their support for gun control vanish like a mirage. Or at least we can hope...
13 posted on 02/07/2003 5:54:58 PM PST by coydog
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To: P.O.E.
HEY! You have been talking to my husband haven't you?
14 posted on 02/07/2003 6:15:44 PM PST by Arpege92
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To: shezza
LOL....
15 posted on 02/07/2003 6:16:33 PM PST by Arpege92
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To: coydog
"If the sand nazis have a problem with uppity women now, just wait until all those feminists realize what's really at stake and you'll see their support for gun control vanish like a mirage."


RAMBETTES would be coming out of the wood work carrying a locked and loaded weapon....I shot a hand gun about twelve years ago and I am not comfortable around guns but I could see myself learning how to use it if things got desperate!

One other thing....I don't think these "sand nazis" as you would call them, even know how the average American woman can react when pushed into a corner! I think the best revenge for these muslim men is teaching their woman that they have rights too!!!
16 posted on 02/07/2003 6:33:35 PM PST by Arpege92
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To: jc_vet
'The United States was built on the Bill of Rights'

...and there is precious little of it left(left lol, but it's not funny). Isn't it strange how were taxed yet founded on a tax revolt, no longer have a 'right' to 'bear' arms, and 'civil rights' is not color blind but racist. The government declares 'war' on everything, even its own people, and on things, just common things man has used for centuries. If there is a season for everything, then there must be a season of hypocrisy and betrayal as well. The alternative is islam, a rabid death-cult which the US thinks is 'peace', Voltaire would be aghast!

17 posted on 02/07/2003 6:57:47 PM PST by Darheel (Visit the strange and wonderful.)
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To: coydog
The problem here is that you've just committed a "hate speech" crime merely by suggesting that the day may come when we need to start shooting american Moslems.

They will use our own libertarian beliefs and laws against us, to undermine our society, until the day comes when they are strong enough and numerous enough to declare sharia and sweep all that western decadence away.

18 posted on 02/07/2003 7:16:40 PM PST by Spiritus Gladius
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To: jc_vet
"The threat of Islam is real. More so than communism ever was, because
with Islam, Muslim activists are willing to kill and to die for the cause of
spreading their religion."

Seems to me the threat is the same.
Their willingness to "die for the cause" is not unique to followers of Islime.

19 posted on 02/07/2003 7:50:36 PM PST by dogbrain
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To: Morrigan
They think that the West, and the West alone, is preventing them from acheiving this global Islamic utopia. According to them, all of the problems in the world would immediately vanish if the world was ruled by Islam.

I agree. But the problem is that in a true Theocracy, this fundamental belief MUST be taught to the children in what schools are permitted to exist.
The problem is a virtual "catch-22". In order to break down the Theocracy, the society must be changed. In order to break down the society and culture, the Theocracy must be changed.

20 posted on 02/07/2003 8:00:14 PM PST by red-dawg
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