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Dems start filibuster
CSPAN | 1stFreedom

Posted on 02/11/2003 2:47:06 PM PST by 1stFreedom

Although they have been doing so stealthily, now Hatch has recognized that they are filibustering.


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To: A. Morgan
Is that Senator DUD, the drinking buddy of the whale from Taxachusetts, who enjoy heckling waitresses in bars?
101 posted on 02/11/2003 4:19:18 PM PST by leprechaun9
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To: Wait4Truth
BUMP
102 posted on 02/11/2003 4:19:59 PM PST by Dante3
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To: jacquej
It's not Estrada they hate, they are going to do this to EVERY Bush nominee, unless he caves and nominates an abortion/socialist/activist.
103 posted on 02/11/2003 4:20:13 PM PST by Republic of Texas (amydave.com....what?)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

"Hugh Hewitt's saying, "Make them pay. Go to NRSC.org." "Get your money in right now."

Listening to Hugh Hewitt during the midterms cost me a pretty penny! Norm Coleman was the main benefactor. I listen to him all the time. He really kept me going during midterms. I love the guy.
104 posted on 02/11/2003 4:21:29 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: Dante3
BUMP back at you! I am so furious!
105 posted on 02/11/2003 4:21:31 PM PST by Wait4Truth (God Bless our President!)
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To: Henk
I'll tell my Senators, Nelson and Graham, about your generosity tomorrow. (^;
106 posted on 02/11/2003 4:22:11 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl (Democrats: "Weapons of Mass Obstruction." Sen. Orrin Hatch)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Time for the busty interns with the come-hither looks? That'll smoke out the Democrats. even Hillary.
107 posted on 02/11/2003 4:24:03 PM PST by RobFromGa (It's Time to Bomb Saddam! (any day now))
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To: marajade
Ruth Gingsberg doesn't have any and she's on the US Supreme Court...<

Now don't get anatomical.

www.senate.gov

108 posted on 02/11/2003 4:24:36 PM PST by unspun (America bless God)
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To: unspun; All
Dems: They Will Filibuster Estrada Vote
Democrats Say They Have Enough Votes to Filibuster Estrada Vote for Appeals Bench

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WASHINGTON Feb. 11

Senate Democrats said Tuesday they will filibuster Miguel Estrada's nomination to the federal appeals bench until he reveals more of his judicial thinking.

President Bush called the move "shameful politics."

Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle accused Estrada of stonewalling Democrats last year when they questioned him about his nomination to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia.

"Every nominee who comes before the Senate has the obligation to be forthcoming with information about his position, with information about his record," said Daschle, D-S.D. "Until he does, we don't believe that it is in the Senate's best interest to allow this confirmation to go forward."

Bush immediately condemned the Democrats for blocking Estrada's confirmation by using Senate parliamentary rules that allow the minority to effectively reject a measure or nominee with just 41 votes. The Senate has 51 Republicans, 48 Democrats and one independent.

"Miguel Estrada is highly qualified, extremely intelligent," the president said. "He has the votes necessary to be confirmed. Yet a handful of Democrats in the Senate are playing politics with his nomination, and it's shameful politics."

Republicans promised to keep senators in Washington, if necessary, into a 10-day vacation scheduled to begin Saturday.

"If they want to stay through the weekend, we'll stay through the weekend," said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn.

A filibuster would be the climax of a two-year battle between Republicans and Democrats over the future of the nation's courts, and the first real test of Republicans' power in Washington now that they control the House, the Senate and the White House.

The only thing blocking the beginning of a filibuster was an ongoing defense of Estrada brought to the Senate floor Tuesday by a series of Republicans.

Since Estrada's nomination in May 2001, Republicans have accused Democrats of treating him unfairly because he is a conservative Hispanic, who, if confirmed, would be the first Latino picked by a president in either party to get a seat on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia.

Estrada is a member of the law firm that represented Bush in his successful Supreme Court fight for the presidency. He came to the United States from Honduras as a teenager and graduated from Harvard Law School in 1986. He has practiced constitutional law and argued 15 cases before the Supreme Court.

During Estrada's five-hour confirmation hearing last year, Democrats repeatedly contended that he lacked judicial experience. Along with Estrada's refusal to answer questions about specific cases, including those on abortion rights, that provided little to review, Democrats complained.

Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., on Jan. 30 called Estrada "a far-right stealth nominee, a sphinxlike candidate who will drive the nation's second most-important court out of the mainstream."

Senate Judiciary Chairman Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, said Estrada answered every question the Democrats had. "The truth is he didn't answer questions in a way that could be used against him," he said.

The Justice Department's solicitor general's office, where Estrada used to work, refused to release copies of memos and opinions he produced when he worked there. All the living solicitors general for presidents in both parties agreed with that position in a letter last June.

Daschle said Democrats will not allow a vote on the nomination until the White House makes Estrada answer their questions and releases the memos. "Until that information is provided, we will not be in the position to allow this vote to come to the floor," said Daschle.

The minority leader said Democrats are afraid that every Bush nominee will stonewall their questions if they let Estrada through. "We can expect every single nominee to come forward with the same stonewalling attitude, with the same approach that they don't have to provide us information," Daschle said. "Well, we're not going to do that."

"We will filibuster, we will continue to debate this issue and we will make a decision as to what's next after we get this information," he added. "We have enough votes to sustain our position."

Not every Democrat is on board. "I don't think that Estrada threatens the democracy of the United States," said Sen. John Breaux, D-La. "I think the best position is to vote against him if you don't agree with him. It's awfully hard, I think, to justify a filibuster."


109 posted on 02/11/2003 4:25:36 PM PST by RobFromGa (It's Time to Bomb Saddam! (any day now))
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To: Wait4Truth
Sen. Wayne Allard: "The obstructionists' charade must stop."

"More appeals court nominees have had to wait over a year for a hearing in President Bush's presidency than in the last 50 years combined."

110 posted on 02/11/2003 4:26:54 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl (Democrats: "Weapons of Mass Obstruction." Sen. Orrin Hatch)
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To: OXENinFLA
"The Information that Dashole and Layheee(i Think) has never been released before for any other Nominee."

And there has never been a filibuster for a Circuit Court nominee, either.

Seems to me the Dims want every bit of information the President has on EVERYTHING, this included. Hmmm...what about his privacy? Wasn't their beloved Roe v. Wade ruling about the right to privacy in some twisted way? Maybe Bush's counsel could cite Roe v. Wade and use that to shut them up. (just kidding)

111 posted on 02/11/2003 4:26:56 PM PST by arasina ("Throw the Good Book at 'em!")
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
I just finished e-mailing Graham & Nelson about the double standard used by the Democrats. I'm sending money to the RNC this week.
112 posted on 02/11/2003 4:27:05 PM PST by jrcats
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To: LdSentinal
"I hope Robert Byrd (D-KKK) speaks. It will probably give him warm feelings how he and Al Gore Sr. filibustered the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Byrd likes to filibuster minorities such as Estrada and then try to lure them to a tree while carrying a rope."

Maybe we'll find out when peanut butter was invented!!

Yahoo!!
113 posted on 02/11/2003 4:27:12 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (LIBERATE IRAQ, SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!!)
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To: RobFromGa
Ah, but that requires the Dems. to have hearts. (^:
114 posted on 02/11/2003 4:27:54 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl (Democrats: "Weapons of Mass Obstruction." Sen. Orrin Hatch)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Are they officially filibustering now?
115 posted on 02/11/2003 4:28:33 PM PST by Howlin (Oh, where is my hairbrush...)
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To: Howlin
Apparently not, I keep see Republicans speaking.
116 posted on 02/11/2003 4:29:44 PM PST by Republic of Texas (amydave.com....what?)
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To: RobFromGa
"If they want to stay through the weekend, we'll stay through the weekend," said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn.

Wonderful!

Keep on writing and calling all these Senators, anyway. Bring this to a vote NOW (please) and if it's a filibuster, bust it. www.senate.gov

117 posted on 02/11/2003 4:30:47 PM PST by unspun (More than one way to skin a cat. -- Bill Frist)
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To: RobFromGa


ROTFLMAO!!!!
118 posted on 02/11/2003 4:31:05 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: jacquej
The parlimentary short form is this:

Motion, Second, Discussion, Close debate, Vote.

Technically the discussion, or debae, can last forever.

You can move to "call the question", which means that you have a vote to end debate on the motion and move it to a vote. (This is called a "cloture" vote). It takes two thirds majority to cut off debate and call a question.

Typically, the procedure is to move on to other matters if a cloture vote is unsuccessful. But, whenever that particular issue comes back for discussion, the debate continues, just like it never stopped.

The chair of the committee, (or President of the Senate, in the case where the Senate is debating an issue as a body) can opt to defer the issue, or to hold the floor open for more discussion.

Holding the floor open really focusses the entire business of the committee (or the Senate) on the issue.

Filibustering is a method of literally talking an issue to death, in most cases.

Focussing the committee's entire effort on the filibuster, however, really challenges the strength of the conviction of the filibustering party.

119 posted on 02/11/2003 4:31:59 PM PST by steve in DC
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To: Howlin
Are they officially filibustering now?

I'm not a cowgirl, but no. Write 'em! Call 'em! Find out where they live and visit 'em!

120 posted on 02/11/2003 4:32:16 PM PST by unspun (More than one way to skin a cat. -- Bill Frist)
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