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Hmmmm...where is Mohammed in this?
1 posted on 02/15/2003 8:15:06 AM PST by TommyDale
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Well, the fact that the last two tapes have only been audio definately raised my eyebrows as to the health of bin laden. May he burn in hell.
84 posted on 02/15/2003 9:16:38 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: TommyDale
Is Elvis and Jimmy Hoffa with him?
86 posted on 02/15/2003 9:17:47 AM PST by 2nd Amendment
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To: TommyDale
Isn't this the same reporter from ABC who got in trouble earlier last year with a contrived news story?
88 posted on 02/15/2003 9:20:50 AM PST by MHT
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To: TommyDale
Good story. This probably belongs in the heaps of false stories on Bin Laden. Good journalists that "know Bin Laden's whereabouts" are a dime a dozen. It's called recognition and fame my friends! Journalists no longer report the news, they make it in hopes of becoming famous and recognized. Look at any TV journalist. It's little more than making up and fabricating stories to entertain the audience.
93 posted on 02/15/2003 9:24:07 AM PST by rs79bm
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To: TommyDale
Maybe Sean Penn, Susan Saradon, or Mike Farrell could go over there, and donate one of their kidneys to keep Osama going.
98 posted on 02/15/2003 9:32:52 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: TommyDale
Osama Death Story, Ver. 83.7
106 posted on 02/15/2003 9:45:19 AM PST by MindBender26 (.....and for more news as it happens...stay tuned to your local FReeper station....)
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To: TommyDale; Victoria Delsoul; mhking; Shermy; Travis McGee; harpseal; The Great Satan; ...
We'll see reports like this, perhaps even a bin Laden death announcement (unconfirmed by autopsy), all the way until Ramadan later this year. Then something unusual happens...

 
Eclipses during Ramadan
by David L. McNaughton
In "Hamdard Islamicus" (Karachi, Pakistan), vol. XIX no. 1 (Spring 1996): pp. 81-86.

Double Eclipses during Ramadan

Sometimes a Ramadan will contain a solar and a lunar eclipse. That inevitably provokes comment, because of traditions that such a "double-eclipse" is a portent for some unusual event. Ithna'asheri Shi'ites, for example, believe that their Twelfth Imam will reappear after a Ramadan double-eclipse (although those two phenomena will supposedly take place in reverse order, with the solar one occurring in mid-month (5); that will require the moon to suddenly double its speed of movement after the onset of the Holy Month!)

In March/April 1894 (Ramadan 1311), Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (founder of the Ahmadiyya or Qadiani movement in Pakistan) interpreted a double-eclipse as a sign that he was a genuine modern-day prophet (6). The lunar eclipse during that particular month was only partial, although the solar one two weeks later was total in a few places in eastern Asia (7). However, there was nothing at all extraordinary about those two eclipses: every 22 or 23 Islamic years there is at least one Ramadan featuring a pair of eclipses two weeks apart (8) - one of which is usually partial; see Table 1.

Very much rarer is a Ramadan containing two total eclipses.

Table 2 lists all such occasions since AH 1, as well as during the next 200 years (9); (its solar eclipses are all central, with annular ones also included).

It will be interesting to see whether the two total eclipses scheduled to occur during Ramadan 1424 (AD November 2003) - are cited to support a claim similar to that made by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, or as proof of thesignificance of some extraordinary event.

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Table 2

Ramadans with two central eclipses

LUNAR . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SOLAR

AH . . AD . . . . . . . . . . Date . . . Where visible . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Date . . .Where visible

.283 . .896 . . . . . . . ..29 Oct . . .Pacific & adjacent . . . . . . . . . . 12 Nov . Canada; Alaska;
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(25 Oct) . . landmasses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(8 Nov) . NE Pacific

.305 . .918 . . . . . . . . .5 Mar . . Eurasia; . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20 Mar . .Antarctic; south
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (28 Feb) .NE Africa . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (15 Mar) . .Indian Ocean

.462 . 1070 . . . . . . . . .2 Jul . . .Pacific & adjacent . . . . . . . . . . . .16 Jul . . .Arctic; Siberia
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(26 Jun) . .landmasses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(10 Jul)

.529 . 1135 . . . . . . . . . 4 Jul . . .America; Pacific; . . . . . . . . . . . . 19 Jul . . .Antarctic; far
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (27 Jun) . New Zealand . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(12 Jul) . . .south Pacific

.596 . 1200 . . . . . . . . . 5 Jul . . . Pacific & adjacent . . . . . . . . . . *19 Jul . Siberia; Arctic;
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (28 Jun) . .landmasses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (12 Jul) . . NW Atlantic

1200 . 1786 . . . . . . . . .11 Jul . . . Pacific & adjacent . . . . . . . . . . 25 Jul . . South Africa &
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . landmasses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . adjacent oceans

1424 .2003. . . . . . . . .9 Nov. . .Europe; SW Asia; . . . . . . . . . .23 Nov . Antarctic; south
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Africa; America . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Indian Ocean

1580 . 2155 . . . . . . . . .9 Mar . . Europe; Africa; . . . . . . . . . . . . .*2 Apr . .China; Russia;
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .America . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kashmir; Mongolia;
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. .Afghanistan

Notes for Table 2

Central lunar eclipses are always total.

*The central solar eclipses listed above are total unless asterisked - in which case they are annular.

Dates apply to the instant of maximum eclipse.

Extrapolated Gregorian dates are given even on occasions when the old Julian calendar was in operation;
the corresponding Julian date is then shown below in brackets.

A Google search on ramadan mahdi eclipse yielded 133 results.

A Google search on ramadan mehdi eclipse (alternate "mahdi" spelling) yielded 58 results.

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On 11/16/2001 1:13 PM PST with 40 comments


Shianews.com ^ | October 31, 2001 | Walhamdo Lillahe Rabbil Aalameen
In the Name of Allah, The Compassionate, The Merciful. Peace and Blessings be on our Master Muhammad, his progeny, and his chosen companions and all of Allah’s messengers. Allah says in His Glorious Book: "Allah's wish is but to remove uncleanness far from you, O Members of the Household, and cleanse you with a through cleansing". One of those Members and one of the Infallible Imams is Imam Al-Mahdi whom Allah has prepared to fill the earth with justice, by means of Islam, having been filled with oppression, falsehood and unbelief. We celebrate the birth of this Imam who ...
     
 
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On 10/28/2001 3:58 PM PST with 137 comments


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Mohammed's Prophecies of the Imam Mahdi
      Posted by Sabertooth
On 10/25/2001 10:49 AM PDT with 67 comments


10 - 25 - 2001 | Sabertooth
I'm looking for information concerning Mohammed's Prophecies of the Imam Mahdi. Particularly where they might shed light on Osama bin Laden's strategies behind the Terror attacks of 9/11. Specific quotes and sources appreciated.
     




110 posted on 02/15/2003 9:54:18 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: TommyDale
bin Laden, like Elvis, Marilyn and all the rest, is dead as a doornail and has been for quite some time now.....

115 posted on 02/15/2003 9:58:01 AM PST by CarmelValleyite
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BULL HOCKEY. If the ones who reported this were telling a truth, we would already be there taking him into custody. He is most likely in Iraq in one of sad-damn's castles.
126 posted on 02/15/2003 10:21:03 AM PST by goodseedhomeschool
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Breaking News: Usama bin Laden is STILL dead, just as he has been for the past 12 months.
129 posted on 02/15/2003 10:28:16 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: TommyDale
He is yellow in color, from failing kidneys, and slips in and out of a coma. The required kidney dialysis has failed to help him.

I always thought that if this thug were not killed by American forces he will eventually die from lack of hemodialysis treatments.

I much deserved, slow and painful death.

133 posted on 02/15/2003 10:39:17 AM PST by RecentConvert (Pacificists are the parasites of freedom)
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I've heard Elvis died when his kidney dialysis no longer helped him. Though he wasn't in a cave.
139 posted on 02/15/2003 11:07:23 AM PST by TheDon (The only smoking gun I want to see, is the one which kills Saddam Hussein.)
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To: TommyDale
And Batchellor knows this how exactly. Is he having liasons with Osama in the cave? Sounds like the bunk that a lot of FReepers post that usually starts with "My brother's a cop/soldier/doctor/government worker and he said..."
153 posted on 02/15/2003 12:11:51 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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When osama actually dies [if hes even alive] We should all as Americans run out into the streets and dance around like the infedels we are and sing and have osama's dead block partys and we could have GUNS and FIRE TRUCKS and HOOK .....oops wrong movie
154 posted on 02/15/2003 12:14:09 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (An American Fellowship of Freedom loving Conservatives..... <*[[[[[><)
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If this is true and I doubt it, he would also be suffering from renal demensia making anything he had to say irrelevant anyway. In other words he has the same symptoms as a dying Alzheimer's patient.
166 posted on 02/15/2003 2:22:57 PM PST by wingnuts'nbolts (I hate all things Clinton)
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And Hyman Roth's been dying of the same heart attack for the last 20 years.
175 posted on 02/15/2003 3:28:29 PM PST by dfwgator
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What were the sources? This sounds mighty suspect to me. I hope he does die soon, though.
176 posted on 02/15/2003 3:28:41 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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Someone quick, lock the door and hand me that pillow.
183 posted on 02/15/2003 4:50:18 PM PST by tet68 (Jeremiah 51:24 ..."..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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Osama needs the hair of the dog that bit him, but he can't have it because dogs are impure.Probably even figurative dogs. Pity. So die, big O. RIP or without it.
186 posted on 02/15/2003 4:59:35 PM PST by mathurine
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He died and went to hell from Tora Bora. If this sonovabitch had a breath in his degenerate body, he would still be making video tapes as before, he is no more and therefore , phony vocals from yore we hear from this boor.
187 posted on 02/15/2003 5:01:05 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Funny, I always thought the Main Stream was deeper and swifter than that.)
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