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Posted on 02/15/2003 5:58:20 PM PST by MadIvan
Regards, Ivan
That is soooo juvenile. I would fight tooth and nail to defend my country and constitution but I'm not going to either participate nor support a war to loot Iraq's oil or to provide a distraction from our own poor economy. If this were a just war, the administration wouldn't have to use all the fabricated "evidence" and scare tactics it is now using.
Richard W.
Makes no difference who is in the Oval Office. Blair is there to nod agreement just like he came over to support Bubba during his little personal "crisis". Like I said, Blair is a lackey.
Richard W.
I see, and just posting well-worn leftist catchphrases like "Blair is a houseboy" is a sign of your maturity? Peddle that rubbish somewhere else.
I would fight tooth and nail to defend my country and constitution but I'm not going to either participate nor support a war to loot Iraq's oil or to provide a distraction from our own poor economy.
Leftist talking point again. How can you be so damn sure that Saddam Hussein isn't a threat? Just as a point of information, the Gulf War initially ended with an agreement that Saddam would get rid of his WMD's. Should treaty violations be so easily overlooked?
If this were a just war, the administration wouldn't have to use all the fabricated "evidence" and scare tactics it is now using.
What fabricated evidence? Even the UN inspectors, as incompetent as they are, found warheads for chemical weapons and missiles with a range that exceed the agreed limits.
You will have to do better than come up with the same old crap that appears every day in the Socialist Worker's Daily.
Ivan
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Richard W.
You are about as intelligent as a slug with a lobotomy. This totally ignores the history that Blair had of arguing and fighting with Clinton over action in Kosovo - the merits of going into there being a separate issue - but there was genuine disagreement and emnity over that.
And this disagreement covers a whole range of issues - Bush initially was hesitant to the UN - again the merits are dubious - but apparently Blair persuaded Bush to go to the UN.
For you to call him a "houseboy" and "lackey" is simplistic, untrue, and totally ingores the reality of the situation, a reality that you are trying to mould to your socialist, leftist, peacenik viewpoint.
Ivan
I didn't know MadIvan was a government official. Only GOVERMENT can silence free speech. The speech here isn't free. It's a PRIVATE site.
Your posts are largely one sentence equivalents of a fart in church, and about as intelligent. And you dare accuse him of lacking in "thinking"?
Look in the mirror before you make such accusations.
Ivan
Humm -- let's see. N. Korea is building nukes and Iran is about to. Yep, makes perfectly good sense to me that we need to disarm Iraq by going to war. It's about OIL and not about weapons or liberation. GW is desperate for war because of the economy, not any threat from Iraq.
Richard W.
Also, I'm not sure what effect this will have on Conservative Party prospects. If I imagine that Bill Clinton had been a moral, principled, genuinely believing Christian, who stood up to his own party and the "polls", it would have made him a very difficult man to dislike, much less hate. The fact that he was and is none of those things is a major factor in the decline of the democratic party. If it weren't for the damage he caused, we'd almost have to be grateful for his being on the scene.
Blair, it seems, presents some real problems for the conservative movement in Britain. Do you agree?
I see, because the order in which George W. Bush does things offends you personally, that we have to stop action in Iraq. I'm sure President Bush will take it to heart next time and give you a call the next time he's planning anything.
How much is Saddam paying you for peddling this piffle? Whatever it is, it's not enough.
And you have zero proof that George Bush has planned this for the sake of the economy. Of course, saying that economics drives everything is a Marxist point of view, unsurprising you should put it forward.
Ivan
Agreed. If Blair was totally bad, it would be much easier to oppose him. Because he does some conservative things, it's hard to be an "Opposition" all the time.
Regards, Ivan
Marxists and other materialists always think that there is a material-based reason to all actions, and never a values-based reason. Take your drivel back to D.U./Lewser/Pravda-Raimundo/LP/Greens.
Oh yeah, you are so intelligent. Ha Ha. Awfully big talk from someone who says so little without having to resort to juvenile "fart" references. Can you make even one substantiated point? Where is any, and I mean any proof that justifies a war?
Richard W.
"It's about oil, it's about oil, it's about oil" is all he knows.
He is simply parrotting what he reads on the PrudentBear.com and various gold-bug websites.
His children must be very proud of a father who exhibits such cowardice.
I can come up with a simile. Which is more than can be said for you.
Can you make even one substantiated point? Where is any, and I mean any proof that justifies a war?
Read above. Saddam violated the treaty by which the Gulf War ended, possesses Weapons of Mass Destruction and is multiple material breaches of Resolution 1441. Not even the French are denying this. You are, however.
Scott Ritter, is that you?
Ivan
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